A Guy Like Me - John Scott

[The King]

He did a great job with this. I am not a fan of his. But I certainly respect his honesty in this piece.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/a-guy-like-me/

[coastal]

He can blow me... I don't care how the NHL is or isn't handling this.

you don't belong there, Jon.

have some respect for the game and bow out.

on the other hand... the All-Star game is a joke so his presence is appropriate.

[Dr. Lecter]

I agree with the last three sentences for the most part - although there is a very good reason for him to not bow out.

You're wrong on the first one though.

The NHL created this scenario. They allowed the fan voting to pick the captains. They continue to have this game that they say is for the fans and then don't like who the fans vote in. Their reaction - bring a man's family into the picture? Tell him he's going to shame his family?

Disgusting and embarrassing.

As for him dropping out, they just suspended Toewes and Ovechkin a game for dropping out and did the same to Crosby last year. There is also a nice chunk of money for Scott to make by being there. Is he just supposed to give that money up?

I still think Scott is probably the least talented player I've seen play on a regular basis in the NHL. But the league is in the wrong here, not him.

[mightysimi]

My opinion is if the fans voted him in, they are probably the ones who will watch it. Let them have their fun. I'm not going to watch it so don't really care if he goes or not.

[denverboz]

**** the NHL. What a thrill for him! Whether deserved or not, he's going to have 'All Star Game' on his hockey resume, and that's something they can never take away from him. From the article he sounds like a pretty nice guy, offering a fair assessment of his skills and how lucky he is to be there.

From the bad light it puts them in, I doubt the NHL can be at all thrilled about this article. Or moving on to conspiracy theories 101, perhaps the NHL set it all up in an attempt to draw attention to the ASG , which most people could give a **** less about. Bad press is better than no press. :smile:

IMHO the guy deserves to be there just for all he's gone through in his career, just the changing teams and having to move so many times from city to city. Personally I think there should be a couple players every year like this who never had/have a chance of being in the ASG. I'm sure it means a lot more to them than the prima -donna super stars who don't even want to be there.

The NHL owes this guy an apology. Totally classless.

The guy deserves to be there, he was voted in. I hope he has a ball there. And I hope his family can be there to celebrate and be with him, cheering him on..

So again **** the NHL..

As an aside, I'm sure there are many Sabres fans thinking if this was a Sabres player the NHL would be changing the rules used in determining All Star players in the future. :smile:

Have fun John! (and great article btw )

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

I'm watching. I think 3v3 is great, just like in street bball. Who gives a **** about the drama. It's sticks and pucks and goal lights.

[denverboz]

I guess the NHL could have locked him out if they really wanted.

Scott was traded out of the Pacific Division and demoted out of the league on January 15, 2016 in a move that sent Scott to the Montreal Canadiens (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montreal_Canadiens), who in turn assigned him to the American Hockey League (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Hockey_League)'s St. John's IceCaps (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._John%27s_IceCaps); the trade was expected to make him ineligible to serve as captain in the All-Star Game;[15] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/61st_National_Hockey_League_All-Star_Game#cite_note-15) however, the NHL announced shortly after the trade that he would be permitted to participate.[16] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/61st_National_Hockey_League_All-Star_Game#cite_note-16)

[coastal]

Jon Scott has earned his existence by being a pugilist.

Some interwebs redditors think they're edgy and oh so counter culture so scheme him into the All-Star game.

the NHL doesn't really want this, so scheme themselves to get him out.

now he's going to cry victim?

this is where moonie is right... the pussification of the American male and the everyone's a politically correct victim mentality of this country is disgusting.

[mightysimi]

He asked fans not to vote him in. Now that he is, someone asks him if his kids will be proud of him for going? That is crossing the line.

He was voted in. Yes he makes a living fighting, but he is still in the NHL. He would skate circles around virtually everyone you or I know. He should be allowed to play and I'm glad they are letting him. Didn't see the same amount of hate for Girgensons when he clearly didn't deserve to be there last year.

[swiper]

He did a great job with this. I am not a fan of his. But I certainly respect his honesty in this piece.

http://www.theplayerstribune.com/a-guy-like-me/


Thanks for posting. I feel the same about him that you do. But that was a tremendously written piece. And I have some new-found respect for him. And, well, Gary Bettman can F-off.

[DetDannyWilliams]

Sly and Peters take on it on Hockey Hotline this morning

[swiper]

I still think Scott is probably the least talented player I've seen play on a regular basis in the NHL.

No doubt he was terrible. No disagreement. But the worst Sabre I ever saw up close was Jerry Korab during his last hurrah in 1984/1985. Should have never been allowed out on the ice.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerry_Korab

With runner up being Richard Smehlik.

[Dr. Lecter]

Jon Scott has earned his existence by being a pugilist.

Some interwebs redditors think they're edgy and oh so counter culture so scheme him into the All-Star game.

the NHL doesn't really want this, so scheme themselves to get him out.

now he's going to cry victim?

this is where moonie is right... the pussification of the American male and the everyone's a politically correct victim mentality of this country is disgusting.

No.

he's saying that they don't need to family shame him into leaving when there is money to be earned.

Don't go out of your way to embarrass somebody.

Quit being a Republican

[coastal]

No.

he's saying that they don't need to family shame him into leaving when there is money to be earned.

Don't go out of your way to embarrass somebody.

Quit being a Republican
Quit being a homo and I won't have to be a Republican.

[JATMtheJATM]

This isn't scotts fault. Hopen he has fun. He shouldn't be there, but the NHL created this mess. They should lie in it.

And bringing up his family was just pathetic. Have fun, John scott. Joke or not, he's there.

[MikeInRoch]

Once the NHL opens it up to a vote from the fans, they have NO business manipulating it if it doesn't turn out how they like.

[rbochan]

He always seemed to be a likeable, funny guy, and a great fighter.

And... he had more goals than Ville Lieno in his last season in Buffalo.

[casdhf]

He is flashing some moves. The NHL is going to come out of this looking like ****. These guys love
Him.

[YardRat]

lol...2 goals and the game's MVP.

[JATMtheJATM]

****in awesome. Good for him. The players wanted him there. So did the fans. So here we are.

[coastal]

great... everyone feels good.

off to the beer leagues with him... where he belongs.

[denverboz]

great... everyone feels good.

off to the beer leagues with him... where he belongs.

Quit your whining already, wtf!! You were made to look like a fool, still you cry! wah wah wah> If anyone should know about pussification it's you and your gf Moonie!

[The King]

Has anyone seen the Goon? I swear the Liev Schrieber character is him.

[gebobs]

now he's going to cry victim?
I missed the part where he "cried victim".

[coastal]

And the "everyone deserves a medal" cabal is in full throat.

[gebobs]

And the "everyone deserves a medal" cabal is in full throat.

This isn't about handing out participation medals. This is about the NHL trying to rig the vote and going cloak-and-dagger when the results didn't suit them. And when he doesn't go willingly, they bring his kids into the fray. Utterly heinous. Bettman needs to be slapped sideways, effing weasel that he is.

Same thing with Rory Fitzpatrick. In that case, they merely rigged the vote which no one can dispute since they hold all the ballots. They couldn't take that tack again or everyone would know that fan balloting has all the legitimacy of a WWF decision. Instead, they came up with this overt tactic. Nothing could be hidden and the NHL was faced with a PR nightmare. The backpedaling by the league was heard from here to Moscow and then Bettman greeting Scott at the game with that stupid smirk we have all come to loathe.

Good for Scott. He didn't deserve to be on the all-star team, but he sure didn't deserve to be treated like that.

[JATMtheJATM]

It's an all star game. Who cares? He had fun, the players around him had fun, the fans loved it, and the NHL is rolling with it.

What's the problem exactly?

[gebobs]

It's an all star game. Who cares? He had fun, the players around him had fun, the fans loved it, and the NHL is rolling with it.

What's the problem exactly?

Hadn't you heard? Pussification. When a 6'8 guy with an engineering degree, marginal skill, and a fighter's cred gets to play in the all-star game with the league's ballerinas, it's the end of American machismo apparently. Somehow.

[coastal]

Hey'd you hear he's getting a book and movie deal now too?

yeah America and the everyone deserves a medal pride parade!

i just can't wait to logon to Facebook to read a story about an undefeated high school wrestler letting a wrestler with Down Syndrome pin him for the win!

that way... I can feel good about myself again.

[Dr. Lecter]

At this rate, in ten years you'll look at Uppy and call him a left winger

[gebobs]

At this rate, in ten years you'll look at Uppy and call him a left winger

Finally a fighter gets his due and gets to play with the ballerinas in their tutus and to coastal it's somehow pussification.

[Dr. Lecter]

I don't think he got his due necessarily and I'm not even a fan of fighting in hockey - it can go away for all I care.

It's more that the NHL set up the rules that fan voting was the way to go. When they didn't get the results they wanted they tried to change the results and then tried to family shame a guy into skipping a chance to earn ~$90,000.

It's shameful and disgraceful.

[casdhf]

The guy did score two goals.

[coastal]

Oh the horrors... family shaming!!!!

Reprehensible!!! Reprehensible!!!!

[JATMtheJATM]

Yes, it is.

[gebobs]

You said it. Reprehensible.

[coastal]

Homos

[JATMtheJATM]

That's the spirit!

[gebobs]

Homos

...says the guy that whines that a real fighter got the spot of another ballerina and sucks Bettman's balls. :-)

[Ingtar33]

This whole thing has been a giant fup; the only thing the NHL did right was changing the allstar MVP vote to vote him game mvp. The League tried to talk him out of attending, tried to shame him out of attending, then convinced the coyotes to trade him and have the Canadians stash him in the AHL, to make him ineligible for the all-star game (yes that trade was "encouraged" by the nhl). It was only because of the media outrage and bad press that the league allowed him to play in the game anyway.

Overall the league made an ass out of itself.

[mightysimi]

This whole thing has been a giant fup; the only thing the NHL did right was changing the allstar MVP vote to vote him game mvp. The League tried to talk him out of attending, tried to shame him out of attending, then convinced the coyotes to trade him and have the Canadians stash him in the AHL, to make him ineligible for the all-star game (yes that trade was "encouraged" by the nhl). It was only because of the media outrage and bad press that the league allowed him to play in the game anyway.

Overall the league made an ass out of itself.

I would be interested to see the source on this one.

[Ingtar33]

I would be interested to see the source on this one.

this was being talked about immediately after the trade; the coyotes traded him for a bag of pucks and the promise from the league that one of their "real" stars would get to attend in his place.

[mightysimi]

this was being talked about immediately after the trade; the coyotes traded him for a bag of pucks and the promise from the league that one of their "real" stars would get to attend in his place.

That is my question, who was talking about it? I read many things about it, but the trade being encouraged by the league wasn't one of them. And trading a guy who barely played for a former first round pick is hardly trading for a bag of pucks regardless of the timing or circumstance. Tinordi is still in Phoenix if I'm not mistaken.

[coastal]

Is John Scott ever going to play another NHL game again?

[Ingtar33]

That is my question, who was talking about it? I read many things about it, but the trade being encouraged by the league wasn't one of them. And trading a guy who barely played for a former first round pick is hardly trading for a bag of pucks regardless of the timing or circumstance. Tinordi is still in Phoenix if I'm not mistaken.

the power of google is amazing sometimes

Bob McKenzie is who first said it - http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/mckenzie-john-scott-will-not-go-to-the-all-star-game-1.423694

here are some more reporters either outright quoting McKenzie or coming to the same conclusion.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacramalla/2016/01/17/trade-of-all-star-john-scott-raises-questions-of-motive/#1f8d52716b9d
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/nhl-risks-conspiracy-theories-grievance-with-john-scott-fiasco/
http://arizonasports.com/story/520974/nobody-looks-good-in-john-scott-fiasco/
http://thehockeywriters.com/the-one-post-about-john-scott-that-you-should-read/
http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/stu-cowan-john-scott-should-wear-bleu-blanc-rouge-at-all-star-game

[mightysimi]

the power of google is amazing sometimes

Bob McKenzie is who first said it - http://www.tsn.ca/radio/toronto-1050/mckenzie-john-scott-will-not-go-to-the-all-star-game-1.423694

here are some more reporters either outright quoting McKenzie or coming to the same conclusion.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/ericmacramalla/2016/01/17/trade-of-all-star-john-scott-raises-questions-of-motive/#1f8d52716b9d
http://www.thehockeynews.com/blog/nhl-risks-conspiracy-theories-grievance-with-john-scott-fiasco/
http://arizonasports.com/story/520974/nobody-looks-good-in-john-scott-fiasco/
http://thehockeywriters.com/the-one-post-about-john-scott-that-you-should-read/
http://montrealgazette.com/sports/hockey/stu-cowan-john-scott-should-wear-bleu-blanc-rouge-at-all-star-game

Bob Mackenzie talking on the radio is a source, Captain google? Seemed like a lot of i don't knows and can't say for sures in there. Not to mention at no point did he say what you said he did.