Is Cam Newton Overrated?

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  • BillsImpossible
    Registered User
    • Mar 2013
    • 16206

    Is Cam Newton Overrated?

    Superman, or super par for the course with a lot of media hype and flash?

    2015 QB Stats

    Cam Newton - 3,837 yards passing, 59.8% completion percentage, 35 TD's, 10 Int's.
    Complete career NFL stats for Carolina Panthers Quarterback Cam Newton on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    After 5 years, Newton's career completion percentage is less than 60%

    Compare those numbers to the following quarterbacks:

    Andy Dalton - (13 games played) 3,250 yards passing, 66.1% completion percentage, 25 TD's, 7 Int's.
    Complete career NFL stats for Carolina Panthers Quarterback Andy Dalton on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Dalton's career completion percentage is 62.3%.

    Kirk Cousins - 4,166 yards passing, 69.8% completion percentage, 29 TD's, 11 Int's.
    Complete career NFL stats for Atlanta Falcons Quarterback Kirk Cousins on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Cousins' career completion percentage is 65.2%

    Is Kurt Cousins a better quarterback than Cam Newton? He plays in a much tougher division compared to the NFC South.

    How about Fitz?

    Ryan Fitzpatrick - 3,905 yards passing, 59.6% completion percentage, 31 TD's, 15 Int's.
    Complete career NFL stats for Washington Quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Fitz has a career completion percentage of 60.1%

    How about Ryan Tannehill?

    Ryan Tannehill - 4,208 yards passing, 61.9% completion percentage, 24 TD's, 12 Int's.
    Complete career NFL stats for Tennessee Titans Quarterback Ryan Tannehill on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Tannehill's career completion percentage is 61.9% and he plays in the toughest division in the NFL.

    What about Tyrod?

    Tyrod Taylor - (14 games) 3,035 yards passing, 63.7% completion percentage, 20 TD's, 6 Int's in his first year as a starting QB.
    Complete career NFL stats for New York Jets Quarterback Tyrod Taylor on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Blake Bortles - 4,428 yards passing, 58.6% completion percentage, 35 TD's, 18 Int's in his second year.
    Complete career NFL stats for New Orleans Saints Quarterback Blake Bortles on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Jameis Winston - 4,042 yards passing, 58.3% completion percentage, 22 TD's, 15 Int's in his rookie year.
    Complete career NFL stats for Cleveland Browns Quarterback Jameis Winston on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Tony Romo - (2014 season) 3,705 yards passing, 69.9% completion percentage, 34 TD's, 9 Int's.
    Complete career NFL stats for Dallas Cowboys Quarterback Tony Romo on ESPN. Includes scoring, rushing, defensive and receiving stats.


    Romo's career completion percentage is 65.3%

    The hype and flash surrounding Cam Newton makes it look and feel like he's ahead of the NFL quarterback curve.

    I think he's behind it.
    Last edited by BillsImpossible; 01-31-2016, 12:24 PM.
  • casdhf
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 17542

    #2
    Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

    Step away from the keyboard.
    Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
    cas,

    I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

    BillsZone Mod

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    • Albany,n.y.
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 5599

      #3
      Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

      More proof that the more you examine QB stats, you understand how meaningless most of them are. The position is too complex to compare statistically.
      If stats were so important they'd just hand out stat sheets & save a lot of time & money by not looking at films. However, the reason they look at film & watch players live is because watching a player has been and will always be the best way to evaluate his performance.

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      • BillsFanInMass
        The Stoner Zoner
        • Feb 2003
        • 1055

        #4
        Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

        He would have been on the bills if Luck didnt decide to stay in college.

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        • Mace
          Haha...yeah you think so ?
          • Mar 2013
          • 20315

          #5
          Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

          Watching him do his thing, he really doesn't look overrated to me. He was a man against pop warner kids in the Arizona game.

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          • kscdogbillsfan1221
            Registered User
            • Nov 2007
            • 5652

            #6
            Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

            Um, his heisman trophy, national championship, and soon to be mvp and super bowl champion would probably disagree with you bills imp
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            I saw.
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            • YardRat
              Well, lookie here...
              • Dec 2004
              • 86288

              #7
              Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

              I was one of those that thought he was extremely over-rated coming out of college, I admit it. Now? Not so much...
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              • feldspar
                Registered User
                • Mar 2007
                • 13620

                #8
                Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                If you want to look at his stats, don't forget to include the 10 rushing TDs that he had as well. The guy had 45 TDs this year with only 14 turnovers if you include fumbles. He also ran for over 600 yards.

                I'm not really a big fan of his, but I won't argue that he's not the MVP of the league this year even with that schedule and the benefit of that defense. The Panthers only lost one game this year, and that's the most important stat.

                But I think I'd take the Broncos +6 in the Super Bowl. That spread doesn't make too much sense to me, so in that sense I think the Panthers are over-hyped, especially since a great majority are betting on them and giving up those points. Mistake, ask me. Vegas May clean up.

                Cam newton has been playing WAY better than I though he ever could in the NFL. He does seem a little too happy with himself, though. Maybe he forgets everything won't always go his way...maybe, I have no idea. I think the Broncos take him down a notch and win outright. Might think about taking the Broncos on the money-line...
                Last edited by feldspar; 01-31-2016, 05:06 PM.

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                • Mace
                  Haha...yeah you think so ?
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 20315

                  #9
                  Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                  Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                  If you want to look at his stats, don't forget to include the 10 rushing TDs that he had as well. The guy had 45 TDs this year with only 14 turnovers if you include fumbles. He also ran for over 600 yards.

                  I'm not really a big fan of his, but I won't argue that he's not the MVP of the league this year even with that schedule and the benefit of that defense. The Panthers only lost one game this year, and that's the most important stat.

                  But I think I'd take the Broncos +6 in the Super Bowl. That spread doesn't make too much sense to me, so in that sense I think the Panthers are over-hyped, especially since a great majority are betting on them and giving up those points. Mistake, ask me. Vegas May clean up.

                  Cam newton has been playing WAY better than I though he ever could in the NFL. He does seem a little too happy with himself, though. Maybe he forgets everything won't always go his way...maybe, I have no idea. I think the Broncos take him down a notch and win outright. Might think about taking the Broncos on the money-line...
                  I have no vested interest in the game, but the Panthers sure do look pretty powerful to me in all phases of the game.

                  I used to think the same thing as you said about Newton, but you know, I've come to think he really is just having the time of his life and has developed the will to not accept things aren't going his way. And that...is a huge serious step imho toward elite.

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                  • feldspar
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2007
                    • 13620

                    #10
                    Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                    Originally posted by Mace View Post
                    I have no vested interest in the game, but the Panthers sure do look pretty powerful to me in all phases of the game.

                    I used to think the same thing as you said about Newton, but you know, I've come to think he really is just having the time of his life and has developed the will to not accept things aren't going his way. And that...is a huge serious step imho toward elite.
                    Maybe.

                    But you can't tell how he would react when things aren't going his way when everything is going his way. Things go wrong for everybody at some point. To me, he seemed to be a little too down in years past when things didn't go his way...just like he seems to be a little too up when things DO go his way.

                    Just a thought.

                    I'd prefer it if he was a little more seemingly even-keeled if he were the QB for my team. I don't know how that will add up over time if he's a little bi-polar...don't know if he is or not, like I said. Kinda seems like there is a real aspect to that at this point, if only in my imagination. Not that that I have a problem with him having a good time...I'm sure that part of it can lead to more positive success. I have no formula for theses things. Never seen a QB go about it way he does yet, for that matter. Just have visions of Kaepernick kissing his own biceps repeatedly, maybe.

                    the guy is not really Superman.
                    Last edited by feldspar; 01-31-2016, 07:43 PM.

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                    • Mace
                      Haha...yeah you think so ?
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 20315

                      #11
                      Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                      We're sure going to see against the Denver defense in any case.

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                      • stuckincincy
                        Buffalo Bills Fan
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 15084

                        #12
                        Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                        Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                        I was one of those that thought he was extremely over-rated coming out of college, I admit it. Now? Not so much...
                        His run skills (and threat of that) and decent enough passing gets his team in favorable field positions. Can't ask for more than that.
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                        • Night Train
                          Retired - On Several Levels
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 33117

                          #13
                          Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                          When is the MVP of the NFL ever overrated ?
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                          • EDS
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5216

                            #14
                            Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                            The thing that stands out about Cam is the touchdowns. Between his passing and running he accounted for 45 touchdowns during the regular season. The fact that he has the size to withstand the punishment a running QB endures it what sets him apart from other mobile QB options. Still, hard to imagine him playing as long as Payton Manning or Brady unless he further refines his passing skills.

                            That being said, 2015 was by far his best season so he will need to a few more seasons at that level to solidify himself as that level of player.

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                            • MidnightVoice
                              Retired (mostly)
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 10791

                              #15
                              Re: Is Cam Newton Overrated?

                              Originally posted by Mace View Post
                              I used to think the same thing as you said about Newton, but you know, I've come to think he really is just having the time of his life and has developed the will to not accept things aren't going his way. And that...is a huge serious step imho toward elite.
                              Agreed. And right now, he does not have the most talented group of receivers in the world

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