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DetDannyWilliams
02-07-2016, 04:44 PM
WGRZ Stu Boyer on Sports...Sabres GM Tim Murray says that the Sabres have sent pictures to the NHL of last night's game that clearly show that Marchand was playing with illegal gloves

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JATMtheJATM
02-07-2016, 06:11 PM
Orlov for Washington does this too.

Not sure why.

gebobs
02-08-2016, 08:07 AM
Orlov for Washington does this too.

Not sure why.

Marchand is just keeping up the Boston tradition.

mightysimi
02-08-2016, 08:10 AM
Looking at the one on the left hand, it looks worn out or is consistent with a pattern that looks like a worn palm. It would also make sense for the top hand (rubbing on the knob) would be worse for wear. Curious if the rule would only apply to it being removed intentionally or cut out. Maybe he likes to wear the same gloves all the time?

gebobs
02-08-2016, 08:22 AM
Curious if the rule would only apply to it being removed intentionally or cut out.
Despite the wording of the rule, it does not matter.


Maybe he likes to wear the same gloves all the time?
Perhaps. Most players probably have several pair. Maybe he's different.

mightysimi
02-08-2016, 11:47 PM
The only issue I have with this is that why not call for it on the ice? Why not get a PP? Sending something to the league after a loss seems weasely and whiny. It is akin to an NFL team sending pictures to the league for a players socks being too low. Who gives a ****? It clearly doesn't affect the performance. A smart team keeps this in their back pocket and pulls it out when they can take advantage with a PP. Not have him fined.

For the record, Marchand is a POS but this is kind of weak.

JATMtheJATM
02-09-2016, 12:25 AM
Despite the wording of the rule, it does not matter.


Perhaps. Most players probably have several pair. Maybe he's different.

You can get gloves repalmed. Very easily.

JATMtheJATM
02-09-2016, 12:28 AM
Looking at the one on the left hand, it looks worn out or is consistent with a pattern that looks like a worn palm. It would also make sense for the top hand (rubbing on the knob) would be worse for wear. Curious if the rule would only apply to it being removed intentionally or cut out. Maybe he likes to wear the same gloves all the time?

As far as I can tell, it does not matter. The reason why is it helps with stick handling and comfort. You get a better feel for the puck.

Worn or cut, it's illegal

YardRat
02-09-2016, 03:10 AM
Is everybody sure the pic hasn't been altered?

JATMtheJATM
02-09-2016, 04:01 AM
Well, it is ddw thread. He does make up **** on the reg

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Well, it is ddw thread. He does make up **** on the reg

gebobs
02-09-2016, 06:01 AM
The only issue I have with this is that why not call for it on the ice?
This is why I think it's fake.


Is everybody sure the pic hasn't been altered?
His right glove looks like his arm has been shopped to his wrist. The left looks like a small wear hole.

coastal
02-09-2016, 08:34 AM
Brad Marchand is a legit star in the NHL.

gebobs
02-09-2016, 09:06 AM
His right glove looks like his arm has been shopped to his wrist. The left looks like a small wear hole.

On further review, it look legit. I didn't realize this was from his penalty shot which explains why the Sabres didn't notify the refs during the game. This is a capture directly from the replay on nhl.com.

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mightysimi
02-09-2016, 10:36 AM
On further review, it look legit. I didn't realize this was from his penalty shot which explains why the Sabres didn't notify the refs during the game. This is a capture directly from the replay on nhl.com.

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That it does but it doesn't explain why go to the league after the fact. Save that intel and use it later. After a loss like this it looks a lot like sour grapes.

OpIv37
02-09-2016, 10:38 AM
If it was the penalty shot the only Sabre on the ice would have been the goalie, and the last thing he's going to do is watch the guy that just beat him celebrate. It's completely possible no one noticed at the time.

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 10:52 AM
Is this the last time the Sabres play the Bruins? If they couldn't use it in this game, hang on to it until next time. To me this is the kid taking names while the teacher is out of class. He isn't/shouldn't be suspended so what is the end game? To get him fined?

The NHL isn't going to reverse the game so why do it at a time where it doesn't benefit your team? That's the thing that I have a hard time understanding. What he is doing doesn't give him an extra edge.

OpIv37
02-09-2016, 11:20 AM
Just because he did it that game doesn't mean he's going to do it next time.

Also, if you were one of the teams that plays the Bruins between now and the next time the Sabres play them, you'd be pretty pissed off if you found out that the Sabres sat on information that your opponent was violating the rules.

Is this a huge deal? Nah, not really, but there must be some advantage to it because a) the NHL wouldn't have such a well crafted rule against it and b) Marchand wouldn't risk being penalized during a game and/or fine unless it had some benefit.

gebobs
02-09-2016, 12:00 PM
Is this the last time the Sabres play the Bruins?
This year, yes.


If they couldn't use it in this game, hang on to it until next time. To me this is the kid taking names while the teacher is out of class. He isn't/shouldn't be suspended so what is the end game? To get him fined?

The NHL isn't going to reverse the game so why do it at a time where it doesn't benefit your team? That's the thing that I have a hard time understanding. What he is doing doesn't give him an extra edge.

These are all great questions that you should ask Murray, if we can even lend any credence to Boyer's claim.

The bigger issue is with the penalty shot itself. That was a pretty lame call. Lehner was trying to hold back afterward... (http://nesn.com/2016/02/brad-marchands-overtime-penalty-shot-goal-thrills-bruins-angers-sabres/)


You know, it’s disappointing. I don’t know what to say. Honestly, I’m not even disappointed that we lost, I’m disappointed… If I say something now I’m going to get in (trouble) you know? That’s what is disappointing, you know? We have McGinn going down, he’s three yards ahead of what Marchand was, and he was clipped. He didn’t get anything. Marchand, he does what he does, you know? It wasn’t even a penalty. The ref calls a penalty after a game like that, it’s just — honestly, I’m an honest guy, and I thought that was — I mean, like, both of those refs are good refs, don’t get me wrong, but that was — oh my God, I don’t know what to say, man. That’s just embarrassing. I hope he’s embarrassed. I am embarrassed. It shouldn’t end like that. Disappointing thing is that I might get fined or whatever, but it’s just embarrassing.

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 12:44 PM
Which makes it further sound like whining. If the Blackhawks are in the same scenario, is Quenville or Bowman going to the league? Probably not.

gebobs
02-09-2016, 01:07 PM
Which makes it further sound like whining. If the Blackhawks are in the same scenario, is Quenville or Bowman going to the league? Probably not.

If the Niemi blanked the Hawks in the shootout, the last on a poke check of Kane, and later it came to light that Niemi's stick was too long, you can bet your britches that Stan is going to call HQ.

I don't think it's not whining. It's business. No one at HQ is going to start complaining about the Sabres being *****y.

Other than the fact that they beat us twice last week, I think it's pretty funny.

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 01:11 PM
If the Niemi blanked the Hawks in the shootout, the last on a poke check of Kane, and later it came to light that Niemi's stick was too long, you can bet your britches that Stan is going to call HQ.

It's not whining. It's business. No one at HQ is going to start complaining about the Sabres being *****y.

I will disagree on that because there is no benefit to the Hawks unless, it is in a series where the mental warfare can be just as important. Well you guys showed him then. His wallet will be lighter (maybe).

gebobs
02-09-2016, 01:20 PM
I will disagree on that because there is no benefit to the Hawks

There's no benefit to the Sabres either. Consider it a professional duty of altruism. If I was in their place, I would do it too. The Sabres are merely notifying the league of a rules violation. They are not looking for a forfeit and probably don't give a rat's arse about a fine. The NHL will notify the Bruins and Marchand will be told to comply. That is the end game.

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 01:25 PM
lol well then I guess the integrity of the game will be upheld. How very noble of the Sabres organization.

JATMtheJATM
02-09-2016, 01:26 PM
http://m.imgur.com/X6qNfSf

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 01:49 PM
http://m.imgur.com/X6qNfSf

Who called the league on him?

JATMtheJATM
02-09-2016, 01:52 PM
The Internet it appears.

I think you are taking this a little too hard.

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 02:01 PM
The Internet it appears.

I think you are taking this a little too hard.

Haha. That is my point. If no one bothered to call the league on Orlov, when it comes out that you did after a marginal call/painful loss, it is seems like whining. I was really hoping to get the TS to get involved in the conversation because he opened the door but it appears he had better things to do.

Not taking it hard, just a couple of guys sticking to their guns in debate. I'm starting to appreciate commenting in the hockey forum as it full of less complaining and you can have an actual debate without anyone getting pissed and calling names or blaming the other's political party.

JATMtheJATM
02-09-2016, 02:12 PM
Haha. That is my point. If no one bothered to call the league on Orlov, when it comes out that you did after a marginal call/painful loss, it is seems like whining. I was really hoping to get the TS to get involved in the conversation because he opened the door but it appears he had better things to do.

Not taking it hard, just a couple of guys sticking to their guns in debate. I'm starting to appreciate commenting in the hockey forum as it full of less complaining and you can have an actual debate without anyone getting pissed and calling names or blaming the other's political party.

Listen here, stupid!

No, but seriously, I get what you are saying, but I still think it's the right thing

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 02:17 PM
Listen here, stupid!

No, but seriously, I get what you are saying, but I still think it's the right thing

In the end, I don't disagree that the POS should be taken to task but these matters are best handled behind the scenes and not in the public. It helps neither the team or the league.

YardRat
02-09-2016, 03:27 PM
Hmmm...seems to me something similar happened in the NFL last season that involved deflated balls, and some called out Irsay and the Colts for being little *****es about waiting to say anything until the next time they played.

mightysimi
02-09-2016, 05:55 PM
Hmmm...seems to me something similar happened in the NFL last season that involved deflated balls, and some called out Irsay and the Colts for being little *****es about waiting to say anything until the next time they played.

I think the difference being that more than one person isn't wearing his gloves. It is basically the same thing but had the refs followed what they were supposed to do, it wouldn't have come to anything.

gebobs
02-10-2016, 08:56 AM
In the end, I don't disagree that the POS should be taken to task but these matters are best handled behind the scenes and not in the public. It helps neither the team or the league.

Then you will be glad to hear that it is being handled just that way.