Rumor : Bills like Kevin Hogan, Stanford QB.

[Mace]

Makes me...uncomfortable.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2016/2/19/11064298/2016-nfl-draft-rumors-kevin-hogan-impresses-buffalo-bills

[Scumbag College]

I'm pretty sure that the Bills take a QB somewhere in the 3-5 round area this year unless something crazy happens or a solid backup gets cut due to salary cap reasons. N

[Mace]

I'm pretty sure that the Bills take a QB somewhere in the 3-5 round area this year unless something crazy happens or a solid backup gets cut due to salary cap reasons. N

I just really hope it's not Kevin Hogan.

Not real sure though. You can go all 6 rounds and find useful players without using a pick on a questionable QB (though I'd be fine of they rolled on Cardale Jones in later rounds, because to me he's the best later maybe). To me at least this looks like a pretty deep draft where we need it to be deep.

[YardRat]

If they haven't got one by the third day, and he's there, I'd take a chance.

[BillsImpossible]

At least he was better than Trent Edwards was at Stanford.

I hope this is the Bills way of saying they are not going to draft a quarterback in the first 5 rounds.

[Mace]

If they haven't got one by the third day, and he's there, I'd take a chance.

You don't want this avatar my friend. Stanford QB with a better throwing motion.

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[Mace]

At least he was better than Trent Edwards was at Stanford.

I hope this is the Bills way of saying they are not going to draft a quarterback in the first 5 rounds.

Need a trebuchet or catapult though that doesn't shoot sideways.

[whkfc]

God his recievers sucked at Stanford. But he also throws ALOT of wobbly balls.

[BillsImpossible]

Need a trebuchet or catapult though that doesn't shoot sideways.

Like me?

[Scumbag College]

I just really hope it's not Kevin Hogan.

Not real sure though. You can go all 6 rounds and find useful players without using a pick on a questionable QB (though I'd be fine of they rolled on Cardale Jones in later rounds, because to me he's the best later maybe). To me at least this looks like a pretty deep draft where we need it to be deep.

Maybe it's the national coverage that both teams get, but I would like Coker out of Bama or Prescott from Mississippi St. in the mid-late rounds.

[Mace]

Like me?

You're more at angles, sideways is too absolute for you.

[BillsImpossible]

God his recievers sucked at Stanford. But he also throws ALOT of wobbly balls.

I believe Peyton Manning has a patent pending on the duck ball.

[Mace]

Maybe it's the national coverage that both teams get, but I would like Coker out of Bama or Prescott from Mississippi St. in the mid-late rounds.

Coker is interesting to me, yes.

[Mr. Pink]

I think Hogan is around a 5th rounder.

Whether he pans out or not is another story entirely, but at the 5th round even if he's not up to par for the NFL, no harm no foul.

I haven't seen anything against his arm strength but he does have a quirky windup and delivery. Which may get exploited at the NFL level as rushers are faster and you need to get the ball out faster than in the college game. His throwing motion would be what I would say is his biggest negative coming into the NFL.

[YardRat]

I would take Coker also. Not the greatest arm strength and only one season of experience, but he's a gamer.

[BillsImpossible]

Translation - The Bills really like Tyrod Taylor and are looking to replace the guy in charge of the headset batteries and clipboards.

[BillsImpossible]

EJ Manuel just got put on the hot seat.

Finally.

[Mace]

I think Hogan is around a 5th rounder.

Whether he pans out or not is another story entirely, but at the 5th round even if he's not up to par for the NFL, no harm no foul.

I haven't seen anything against his arm strength but he does have a quirky windup and delivery. Which may get exploited at the NFL level as rushers are faster and you need to get the ball out faster than in the college game. His throwing motion would be what I would say is his biggest negative coming into the NFL.

If you notice, Pink, my power to give rep just went from 15 to 16, oh the intoxicating feel of it. By my calculations you'll be green 34 seconds before 2019 if I can stop the bleeding from these damned gunshot wounds and keep it going.

[BillsImpossible]

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[YardRat]

If you notice, Pink, my power to give rep just went from 15 to 16, oh the intoxicating feel of it. By my calculations you'll be green 34 seconds before 2019 if I can stop the bleeding from these damned gunshot wounds and keep it going.

You are now envied by millions, but I am still more popular than Jim Kelly.

[Mace]

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You have a mean streak, BillsImp.

[BillsImpossible]

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[Mace]

You are now envied by millions, but I am still more popular than Jim Kelly.

That's why the next bet you lose to me will make you rep Pink no matter what he says for a week or so.

[Mr. Pink]

You are now envied by millions, but I am still more popular than Jim Kelly.

I am still dumber than rocks.

It used to be less popular than Rob Johnson. I miss that.

[Mr. Pink]

That's why the next bet you lose to me will make you rep Pink no matter what he says for a week or so.

Everyone on this site could pos rep me for a week straight and I'd still be in the red.

(-49838 point(s) total) bahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[YardRat]

That's why the next bet you lose to me will make you rep Pink no matter what he says for a week or so.

I'll try to step it up a little bit to help get Pink in the green.

[BillsImpossible]

I'll try to step it up a little bit to help get Pink in the green.

Ewwww.

[Mace]

I'll try to step it up a little bit to help get Pink in the green.

It would be helpful. I might even let you win a bet.

[Mace]

Everyone on this site could pos rep me for a week straight and I'd still be in the red.

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Bah, Pink you gloomy gus, I think you shaded at least a bubble since I championed your cause. You might think that means 2030 or so, but, well, it might mean 2030 or so. I'm drinking v8 and eating some green vegetable stuff to keep going. At worst well I die, but at best I only change my sig to reflect the mathematics.

Take heart, the SWAT team has to run out of ammo soon and I still have some rocks to throw at them when I make my break for....oh geez, I forgot that part. Some kid had to leave a bicycle laying around though, and I have more v8 juice and a pocketfull of green vegetable stuff.

Next, we shade you another bubble after I throw my rocks and find a bicycle. The plan is forging ahead.

[swiper]

God his recievers sucked at Stanford. But he also throws ALOT of wobbly balls.

Not this TD (2nd one). Nor did he telegraph it. He zipped it.

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[swiper]

Here's a compilation of his good & bad in that Northwestern game that was mentioned in the opening article. Northwestern was playing very good defense that day. And Stanford seems to have subpar o-line and WRs. Watch the pass @ 3:26 specifically. As for Hogan, some good. Some not so good.

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This video tells you pretty much all you need to know about this player IMO.

[X-Era]

Makes me...uncomfortable.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2016/2/19/11064298/2016-nfl-draft-rumors-kevin-hogan-impresses-buffalo-billsI don't mind it. He's a tier 3 level QB and I've always been thinking the Bills won't address QB until a mid to late round.

Hogan had a better year this year and has upside.


<tbody>
SEASON
CMP
ATT
YDS
CMP%
YPA
LNG
TD
INT
SACK
RAT
RAW QBR
ADJ QBR


2015
206
304
2867
67.8
9.43
93
27
8
19
171.0
81.9
85.9


2014
232
352
2792
65.9
7.93
52
19
8
22
145.8
63.4
69.2


2013
180
295
2630
61.0
8.92
78
20
10
14
151.5
72.3
82.1


2012
109
152
1096
71.7
7.21
43
9
3
11
147.9
67.6
79.9

</tbody>

[Mace]

I don't mind it. He's a tier 3 level QB and I've always been thinking the Bills won't address QB until a mid to late round.

Hogan had a better year this year and has upside.


<tbody>
SEASON
CMP
ATT
YDS
CMP%
YPA
LNG
TD
INT
SACK
RAT
RAW QBR
ADJ QBR


2015
206
304
2867
67.8
9.43
93
27
8
19
171.0
81.9
85.9


2014
232
352
2792
65.9
7.93
52
19
8
22
145.8
63.4
69.2


2013
180
295
2630
61.0
8.92
78
20
10
14
151.5
72.3
82.1


2012
109
152
1096
71.7
7.21
43
9
3
11
147.9
67.6
79.9

</tbody>


Are you noticing that throwing motion though ? That sets off alarms. To me, if he'd been thinking NFL career he'd have been working on that before now. Sort of tells me he can't or won't. People can mention Rivers in his defense but Rivers is a rare exception for successful use of odd mechanics.

If we had a solid QB teacher, maybe, but we have Wildcat Lee. There's better uses of a pick out there this year.

[Night Train]

He's a developmental QB with upside. That's what I would expect in the middle rounds. Plus he has a lot of experience in a pro style O, which is almost extinct in college these days.

No way do i want an Alabama system QB with limitations. They vanish quickly in the pros. It's just talk anyhow.

[YardRat]

I think McCarron will be around for a few years.

[Mace]

He's a developmental QB with upside. That's what I would expect in the middle rounds. Plus he has a lot of experience in a pro style O, which is almost extinct in college these days.

No way do i want an Alabama system QB with limitations. They vanish quickly in the pros. It's just talk anyhow.

Well, to be honest, Stanford has a history of producing pro style qb's that aren't much good in the pro's in the modern era though. Luck is clearly the best and can't win outside his division for all his talent. You have to go back 32 years to find one who rolled through a successful career and that was John Elway.

A qb with a funky throwing motion from a school that isn't producing good pro wb's though they run a pro style offense just might not be the way to go.

[Night Train]

I'm not endorsing Hogan as a good prospect. Just worthy of middle round consideration within the developmental idea and understand why the Bills might be looking at him. Nothing more.

The guy I like is Vernon Adams of Oregon, who isn't the prototype QB at all, being only 5-9/5-10 in height. All he does is make plays and has a cannon for an arm. Accurate. Very smart and poised. He's the guy I'd like at some point. Could come off the bench and give a spark or step right in as the starter, due to injury.

[Mace]

I'm not endorsing Hogan as a good prospect. Just worthy of middle round consideration within the developmental idea and understand why the Bills might be looking at him. Nothing more.

The guy I like is Vernon Adams of Oregon, who isn't the prototype QB at all, being only 5-9/5-10 in height. All he does is make plays and has a cannon for an arm. Accurate. Very smart and poised. He's the guy I'd like at some point. Could come off the bench and give a spark or step right in as the starter, due to injury.

Well, Adams looks like he has a tiny frame, not real robust. I still like Cardale Jones if they take anyone to develop.

That said though, I can't help but admit Jones falls into the same category as Hogan. They need passing development, either for mechanics, read ability, etc...that's not going to happen with Wildcat Lee. The run and gun qb's, like Adams, probably have a better chance in this system, though I'm skeptical of how long they can last if they are wee, but they still have a better chance in this system for working with Lee than any other teaching project would, to come off the bench and do anything meaningful.

[DraftBoy]

Hard pass on Hogan. Limited upside QB who at best maybe a third stringer on a NFL roster in case an oh holy **** moment occurs.

[Victor7]

Weird throwing motion. Similar to that of Phillip Rivers. But he's elite. Not everyone can get away with that.

I mean if he's gonna be a 5th round pick or later fine. Its not like we hit on those picks all the time. Anything earlier would be a reach IMO.

What I did gather from those videos is how ****ty his receivers are. Like really really bad.