Incognito Resigned

[Buffalogic]

Per his twitter - 3 year deal

[Victor7]

That makes it sound like he stepped down but I get it.


Good move. I hope we didn't break the bank though.

[Yasgur's Farm]

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2016/3/8/11161818/richie-incognito-contract-signing-bills-nfl-free-agency-2016

[OpIv37]

That makes it sound like he stepped down but I get it.


Good move. I hope we didn't break the bank though.
Bank was already broken. They didn't have enough cap left to overpay, unless they overpaid him in the out years and we could just cut him if it's a problem.

Also, lets hope he plays at the same level now that his NFL future doesn't depend on it.

[Buffalogic]

Great news that we were able to keep our key guys Glenn and Incogs. Good offseason so far. We will probably sign a few second teir FA's too. Trevathan please! Maybe Robert Ayers?

[Buffalogic]

3 years -15 million. 5 per for Incogs

[EDS]

3 years -15 million. 5 per for Incogs

That is a fair amount of scratch for an aging guard. They need to do a few restructurings or reach long term deals with Gilmore and/or Glenn to fit the draft class in under the cap.

[Buffalogic]

Looks like the Jahri Evans tactic worked.

[swiper]

That's great. Also is his last deal in the NFL. He milked it for everything he could.

[Victor7]

3 for 15 is fair. Good work by OBD getting this done.

[Joe Fo Sho]

That is a fair amount of scratch for an aging guard. They need to do a few restructurings or reach long term deals with Gilmore and/or Glenn to fit the draft class in under the cap.

It depends on how it's structured, how much is guaranteed, etc. I'm OK with it, given he was one of our best offensive lineman last year.

[Forward_Lateral]

Nice. Faith in front office restored somewhat

[cookie G]

5 mil/yr is extremely reasonable for someone playing at a PB level.

Now stay on your meds, Mr. Incognito...good things will happen

[Dr. Lecter]

That is a fair amount of scratch for an aging guard. They need to do a few restructurings or reach long term deals with Gilmore and/or Glenn to fit the draft class in under the cap.

Meh.

It's probably not a 5 million hit each year. A 3 year deal like this often assumes the last year won't be seen.

[BertSquirtgum]

Good. Now they need to sign jahri evans too.

[The Jokeman]

5 mil/yr is extremely reasonable for someone playing at a PB level.

Now stay on your meds, Mr. Incognito...good things will happen

I'm sure they put in some kind of clause that he will lose guaranteed money if he has another incident because of his history.

[X-Era]

5 mill per as expected. Hit will likely be less.

[Boomstick]

Good. Now they need to sign jahri evans too.
This has been my hope all along when I heard Evans came for a visit. Have him play RG while Miller progresses.

[tomz]

Good. Now they need to sign jahri evans too.

I am quite pleased they got this done. He brings the nasty to the team. Would be nice to see Evans as well. Sets up a defense heavy draft.

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Richie Incognito: "We definitely took a discount to stay in Buffalo. ... I owed it to them."
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Mike Rodak
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Richie Incognito says he "owes Buffalo a lot" not only for giving him a second chance, but for welcoming him into locker room.
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Mike Rodak
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Richie Incognito says contract negotiations with the Bills reached a snag last week over "structure" of his deal.
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Mike Rodak
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Richie Incognito says six or seven teams reached out to him this week but he wanted to return to Buffalo. Cites Rex Ryan and his player-friendly coaching style, how he "treats players like men."

[OpIv37]

Great news that we were able to keep our key guys Glenn and Incogs. Good offseason so far. We will probably sign a few second teir FA's too. Trevathan please! Maybe Robert Ayers?

It was good in the sense that our only significant loss has been Mario Williams, who was overpaid anyway. It's bad in the sense that we won't be adding any significant talent to last year's 8-8 squad.

[The Jokeman]

It was good in the sense that our only significant loss has been Mario Williams, who was overpaid anyway. It's bad in the sense that we won't be adding any significant talent to last year's 8-8 squad.

We added significant talent last year with draft picks Darby and Karlos Williams, who's to say we won't do the same this year? Toss in we have a 1st Round pick this year.

[ICRockets]

Now let's draft an RT in Round 1 (Jack Conklin, Taylor Decker, etc.) and our line should be set until we add a center next offseason.

[The Jokeman]

Now let's draft an RT in Round 1 (Jack Conklin, Taylor Decker, etc.) and our line should be set until we add a center next offseason.

I agree we need a RT but I'd be looking to draft BPA which looks more like a D-lineman with the way the draft sorting out. I'm hoping for Shaq Lawson.

[Buffalogic]

It was good in the sense that our only significant loss has been Mario Williams, who was overpaid anyway. It's bad in the sense that we won't be adding any significant talent to last year's 8-8 squad.We are going to sign some Free Agents. Just not the tier 1 guys.

[Owen DeBoard]

It was good in the sense that our only significant loss has been Mario Williams, who was overpaid anyway. It's bad in the sense that we won't be adding any significant talent to last year's 8-8 squad.
The Bills had more than their fair share of injuries last year. If they can stay some what healthy then it will be an improvement.

[Mr. Miyagi]

It's a fair deal, not too long for an aging guard, but enough money to retire with. Keep the line together, win-win. :up:

[OpIv37]

We added significant talent last year with draft picks Darby and Karlos Williams, who's to say we won't do the same this year? Toss in we have a 1st Round pick this year.

And that added talent from the draft PLUS Tyrod, Clay, Incognito and McCoy got us..... One less win. This year, FA/trades will be a push at best and our only influx of talent will be the draft.

I have never seen a draft class so talented that it turns a mediocre team into a winner during their rookie year.

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The Bills had more than their fair share of injuries last year. If they can stay some what healthy then it will be an improvement.

The injury bug hits us hard every year.

[OpIv37]

We are going to sign some Free Agents. Just not the tier 1 guys.

We used that strategy every year since the year we signed Dockery with the only exception being Mario. You saw where that got us.

[Buffalogic]

We used that strategy every year since the year we signed Dockery with the only exception being Mario. You saw where that got us.Both strategies have gotten us to the same place. FA hasn't been what's keeping this team down.

[OpIv37]

Both strategies have gotten us to the same place. FA hasn't been what's keeping this team down.

Fair enough but my point is that this team demonstrated last year that they still need to add talent to be successful, and signing 2nd and 3rd tier FA's is highly unlikely to provide the necessary talent influx

[justasportsfan]

It was good in the sense that our only significant loss has been Mario Williams, who was overpaid anyway. It's bad in the sense that we won't be adding any significant talent to last year's 8-8 squad.

we're waiting for the jets to cut more players that fit this scheme.Duh!

[elroy16]

Fair enough but my point is that this team demonstrated last year that they still need to add talent to be successful, and signing 2nd and 3rd tier FA's is highly unlikely to provide the necessary talent influx


Winning free agency doesn't equate to a winning team. You need to draft well, develop that talent, and retain your players.

I'd like to see year two of Tyrod, the rookies, and everyone in the same systems. Those things alone should lead to an improved team. Improvement doesn't have to come in the form of free agents.


True, 2nd and 3rd tier guys probably aren't going to come in and make the pro-bowl, but they should be able to provide solid depth.

[Mahdi]

Fair deal.

Couldn't have gotten a better deal for an above average guard let alone a PB G like incognito

[Mace]

I'm frankly still confused about the cap situation, but Incognito was needed here and earned the coin. Never thought I'd say that last year when I hated the signing. Never thought Id say this either...

Welcome back Richie.

[ICRockets]

I agree we need a RT but I'd be looking to draft BPA which looks more like a D-lineman with the way the draft sorting out. I'm hoping for Shaq Lawson.

As long as it's not Robert Nkiemdemeche or whatever his name is. I've heard horrible things about his character. I'd love Emanuel Ogbah, I like his game.

[Ginger Vitis]

I have never seen a draft class so talented that it turns a mediocre team into a winner during their rookie year.

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I have.. Several times

1988 Cincinnati Bengals
1991 Dallas Cowboys
1999 Tennessee Titans
2008 Baltimore Ravens
1998 Minnesota Vikings

[SpikedLemonade]

3 years -15 million. 5 per for Incogs

How much in Signing Bonus?

[SpikedLemonade]

I agree we need a RT but I'd be looking to draft BPA which looks more like a D-lineman with the way the draft sorting out. I'm hoping for Shaq Lawson.

Crap!

[YardRat]

Yay.

[cookie G]

I'm sure they put in some kind of clause that he will lose guaranteed money if he has another incident because of his history.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure they put something like that into his contract....for all I know that was the sticking point.

More importantly than being in the contract...its far better for him as a player.

[Scumbag College]

The Bills have done pretty well the past few years with not top tier FAs.

Tyrod
Incognito
Lawson
Graham

[OpIv37]

I have.. Several times

1988 Cincinnati Bengals
1991 Dallas Cowboys
1999 Tennessee Titans
2008 Baltimore Ravens
1998 Minnesota Vikings
So you found 5 examples in the last thirty years. You just proved my point that it's highly unlikely that a draft class will put a mediocre team over the top in their first year.

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The Bills have done pretty well the past few years with not top tier FAs.

Tyrod
Incognito
Lawson
Graham
Those guys have played well for us but that play has not led to more wins.

[feldspar]

I wanted to keep this guy the last time he was on our team.

Good deal.

[Mr. Cynical]

Who is/was the oldest productive guard in the nfl? Just trying to get a feel if he can play 2 more years at a high level. Wondering if that year off actually helped him by letting his body rest?

[BertSquirtgum]

Who is/was the oldest productive guard in the nfl? Just trying to get a feel if he can play 2 more years at a high level. Wondering if that year off actually helped him by letting his body rest?

Brian waters

[cookie G]

Who is/was the oldest productive guard in the nfl? Just trying to get a feel if he can play 2 more years at a high level. Wondering if that year off actually helped him by letting his body rest?

Will Shields was 34 when he retired, without slowing down much.

Logan Mankins and Evan Mathis certainly weren't liabilities for Tampa and the Broncos, both at 33.

IF you get 2 years more years out of Incognito, you're ahead of the game. And..his replacement should be waiting in the wings, after learning a year or 2.

[Buddo]

Steve Hutchinson was at least 35 when he called it a day, and quite possibly could have carried on for a year or two more.

There was an interesting part of the BN article about Incognito, where he talked about the time off having allowed his body to fully recuperate from playing. No little aches and pains from the daily grind, as he wasn't, strictly speaking, actually injured prior to his extended 'leave'.

Because of this, I think that Incognito may well see out the whole of his new deal, although to continue after then, may well be a stretch. I doubt we will see any drop off this year, either.

[Ginger Vitis]

Who is/was the oldest productive guard in the nfl? Just trying to get a feel if he can play 2 more years at a high level. Wondering if that year off actually helped him by letting his body rest?

Randall McDaniel at the age of 35 was still playing at a probowl level

[Joe Fo Sho]

Ruben Brown played in the Pro Bowl 3 days before turning 35, just to give another example. He was out of the NFL after playing one more season, though.

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

Ruben Brown played in the Pro Bowl 3 days before turning 35, just to give another example. He was out of the NFL after playing one more season, though.

I also like to refer to him as one of the most overrated Bills of all time

[ghz in pittsburgh]

So Jahri Evans came in and Incognito signed. Funny how these things work - I'm not saying the Bills won't sign both, but this is how the game is played between front office and agents. ...

[Joe Fo Sho]

I also like to refer to him as one of the most overrated Bills of all time

Really? I always thought he was pretty darn good. He's got a decent resume - 13 years, 181 games started, 9 time pro bowler, 4 time all-pro. I was only 10 years old when we drafted him, so I was probably putting all of my stock in the fact that he made the pro bowl.

[MillsapsBillsFan]

So Jahri Evans came in and Incognito signed. Funny how these things work - I'm not saying the Bills won't sign both, but this is how the game is played between front office and agents. ...

I don't think they will, don't have the $$ for both

[Mace]

Really? I always thought he was pretty darn good. He's got a decent resume - 13 years, 181 games started, 9 time pro bowler, 4 time all-pro. I was only 10 years old when we drafted him, so I was probably putting all of my stock in the fact that he made the pro bowl.

He was pretty darned good in his day but ended up overrated. Not so overrated though that they were unable to get good guard play again until the Levitre/Eric Wood draft.

[mdcas22]

its not 5 mil a year. here is his contract







<tbody>
YEAR

AGE
BASE SALARY
SIGNING BONUS
WORKOUT BONUS
CAP HIT
DEAD CAP


2016
http://www.spotrac.com/assets/images/thumb/buffalo.png
32
$2,000,000
$1,150,000
$100,000
$3,250,000
$5,450,000 (http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/richie-incognito/#)


2017
http://www.spotrac.com/assets/images/thumb/buffalo.png
33
$3,175,000
$1,150,000
$100,000
$4,425,000
-


2018
http://www.spotrac.com/assets/images/thumb/buffalo.png
34
$6,325,000
$1,150,000
$100,000
$7,575,000
-


2019
http://www.spotrac.com/assets/images/thumb/buffalo.png
35
UFA

</tbody>

[YardRat]

If he sees all three years it is.

[Night Train]

If he sees all three years it is.

Yup. That looks like a 2 year deal.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Yup. That looks like a 2 year deal.

Yeah, 2 years $3.84 million per year. Whaley deserves a some credit for this.

[sahlensguy]

Love it!