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This isn't an argument thread for me, I might make comments but I won't try and criticize what your definition of franchise QB is.
To me, a "franchise" qb is an elite qb who elevates the team. He's a guy you fear every time he gets the ball, he's a guy that earned that fear from you if he's an opponent. Or you believe in him utterly if he's yours, the game is not lost unless he cannot get one more chance to win it and you believe he will because he does more often than not. He plays nearly every game, and he's pretty much capable of the same with any team he'd be on because of his arm, his will, and his leadership. He dictates a game more often than not. Surrounding cast changes, he doesn't.
In my opinion right now, there are 4. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Newton. Peyton Manning was in his prime, Drew Brees was also. Roethlisberger may be on the decline, Newton could go either way down the road, but when they're on the field still, they're tearing off chunks of yards and looking like they expect it.
Next category is reliable starter. He's still a threat, and can pull games out, if he gets on a streak, he can bury you. He's dangerous but someone you worry about if he's an opponent, you don't fear him. Crapshoot, maybe, maybe not. If he's yours, you're set at QB, might have great things ahead with the team around him, but are likely as not to flinch and dream about the elite ones, while being relatively sure next game could well be different if he's on his game. He's not interchangeable with any team, has strengths enhanced by your offensive style.
In my opinion those guys are Alex Smith, Flacco, Russell Wilson, Eli Manning, Andy Dalton, Carson Palmer, Rivers, Stafford, Luck, Matt Ryan, Brees at this point in his career, Cutler sometimes not always.
The rest are maybes, potential, and working their way up or down.
I think a guy has to be a reliable starter to work his way to franchise/elite status. Some reliable starters will go up or down, or have elite moments on a roll. I don't think anyone enters the league as franchise qb, ala Luck, who isn't yet imho but surely came in with the package of potential unquestioned.
I think they develop into franchise QB's or not, and you can't be too sad if you have some of the reliable starters I mentioned.
Taylor ? I don't know. Needs durability to be a reliable starter and maintain/improve his pace to stay in that category before advancing unless he suddenly clicks. No telling. He's essentially a 2nd year starter.
Besides being desperate for one (and sure, I am too), what do people think a franchise QB is, and if you believe in an instant winner this season who will be better than Luck out of the gate (he's still only .500 outside owning his division, unlikely for a QB here with the Pats around), why is he a must have you are so certain of this draft ? Did I leave any out in my opinion ?
To me, a "franchise" qb is an elite qb who elevates the team. He's a guy you fear every time he gets the ball, he's a guy that earned that fear from you if he's an opponent. Or you believe in him utterly if he's yours, the game is not lost unless he cannot get one more chance to win it and you believe he will because he does more often than not. He plays nearly every game, and he's pretty much capable of the same with any team he'd be on because of his arm, his will, and his leadership. He dictates a game more often than not. Surrounding cast changes, he doesn't.
In my opinion right now, there are 4. Brady, Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Newton. Peyton Manning was in his prime, Drew Brees was also. Roethlisberger may be on the decline, Newton could go either way down the road, but when they're on the field still, they're tearing off chunks of yards and looking like they expect it.
Next category is reliable starter. He's still a threat, and can pull games out, if he gets on a streak, he can bury you. He's dangerous but someone you worry about if he's an opponent, you don't fear him. Crapshoot, maybe, maybe not. If he's yours, you're set at QB, might have great things ahead with the team around him, but are likely as not to flinch and dream about the elite ones, while being relatively sure next game could well be different if he's on his game. He's not interchangeable with any team, has strengths enhanced by your offensive style.
In my opinion those guys are Alex Smith, Flacco, Russell Wilson, Eli Manning, Andy Dalton, Carson Palmer, Rivers, Stafford, Luck, Matt Ryan, Brees at this point in his career, Cutler sometimes not always.
The rest are maybes, potential, and working their way up or down.
I think a guy has to be a reliable starter to work his way to franchise/elite status. Some reliable starters will go up or down, or have elite moments on a roll. I don't think anyone enters the league as franchise qb, ala Luck, who isn't yet imho but surely came in with the package of potential unquestioned.
I think they develop into franchise QB's or not, and you can't be too sad if you have some of the reliable starters I mentioned.
Taylor ? I don't know. Needs durability to be a reliable starter and maintain/improve his pace to stay in that category before advancing unless he suddenly clicks. No telling. He's essentially a 2nd year starter.
Besides being desperate for one (and sure, I am too), what do people think a franchise QB is, and if you believe in an instant winner this season who will be better than Luck out of the gate (he's still only .500 outside owning his division, unlikely for a QB here with the Pats around), why is he a must have you are so certain of this draft ? Did I leave any out in my opinion ?
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