Day two-the Official 2nd/3rd Round thread

[sudzy]

Who do you want? I would love to gamble on Myles Jack here. Ragland and Jarren Reed are high on my wish list.

[Ginger Vitis]

crossing my fingers ragland drops to 49 but I doubt it he makes it to the bills pick

[YardRat]

Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama / Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama /Von Bell, S, Ohio State / Landon Turner, OG, North Carolina /Su'a Cravens, S/LB, USC / Jihad Ward, DT, Illinois / Graham Glasgow, C/G, Michigan

[Jan Reimers]

I'd like to see a starter at RT and ILB. Wait until later rounds for WR, QB and S.

[mysticsoto]

Reggie Ragland, ILB, Alabama / Jarran Reed, DT, Alabama /Von Bell, S, Ohio State / Landon Turner, OG, North Carolina /Su'a Cravens, S/LB, USC / Jihad Ward, DT, Illinois / Graham Glasgow, C/G, Michigan

I can see it being Reed. They loved him and he seemed to love us. That's assuming A'Shawn is gone.

[elltrain22]

In no particular order:

Connor Cook, Jarran Reed, Noah Spence, Vonn Bell, Su'A Cravens, Reggie Raglund, Braxton Miller or Sterling Sheppard.

If I had to settle on the guy I most want, I would say I hope Cook slides to us. I realize he could bust, but he could also be a pretty decent NFL qb for a while.

[BertSquirtgum]

Connor Cook in round two hopefully

[sukie]

Really afraid of that knee on Jack?

[DraftBoy]

2nd Round Wishlist:
DT Jarran Reed
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DT Chris Jones
LB Myles Jack
LB Jaylon Smith
DE Noah Spence
LB Reggie Ragland
OT Jason Spriggs
SAF Vonn Bell

3rd Round Wishlist:
QB Christian Hackenberg
WR Pharaoh Cooper
WR Braxton Miller
CB Xavien Howard
DT Austin Johnson
OC Max Tuerk
OG Connor McGovern

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Really afraid of that knee on Jack?

Really afraid of him needing microfracture surgery on it.

[sukie]

Microfracture surgery is worth the risk especially if he falls into 3.

Woodson had MF surgery so did Marion , both played a long time.

I also read that 95% of a study of soccer players in europe that had it done resumed playing and played an average of 5 more years. Rookie contracts are cheap for a gamble.

[DraftBoy]

Microfracture surgery is worth the risk especially if he falls into 3.

Woodson had MF surgery so did Marion , both played a long time.

I also read that 95% of a study of soccer players in europe that had it done resumed playing and played an average of 5 more years. Rookie contracts are cheap for a gamble.

True, but every team in the NFL is looking at the Texans and Clowney as a reason to hesitate on taking this guy high.

[k-oneputt]

I like those lists DB.
If we can land on of those dt I would be pleased.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Who do you want? I would love to gamble on Myles Jack here. Ragland and Jarren Reed are high on my wish list.
I'm hoping for exactly the same. All I want for Myles Jack is to hold up for 3-5 years, I think he has at least that.

[Mr. Miyagi]

If Jaylen Smith falls to the 3rd I'm all over it.

[Night Train]

Predicting Zak Prescott or Kevin Hogan are picked by the Bills in either round 2 or 3 tonight. Beyond this year, we don't know about Taylor.

Don't get caught begging next year, like Denver, the Jets and a couple others this year.

[The Jokeman]

Predicting Zak Prescott or Kevin Hogan are picked by the Bills in either round 2 or 3 tonight. Beyond this year, we don't know about Taylor.

Don't get caught begging next year, like Denver, the Jets and a couple others this year.
I agree we need a QB but Prescott/Hogan be major reaches tonight. The only QBs I expect to be taken tonight are Cook, Hackenberg and maybe someone like Cleveland reaches for Cardale Jones in Round 3 since they have three picks.

[The Jokeman]

I can see it being Reed. They loved him and he seemed to love us. That's assuming A'Shawn is gone.
To me A'shawn best DT left on the board and suspect be gone in first five picks of the round. Reed/Jones/Billings are cloggers and think one maybe two taken before us. Tough call to say who we take but wouldn't shock me if we surprise people and take Hunter Henry if he still on the board when we pick.

[mysticsoto]

Rumor has it that Rex is considering trading up for Jack...I wonder...it's something he'd probably do. But I think they'd like to only use our extra 4th to move up, which means, we'd need him to fall some more. Frankly, I think that's unlikely.

[DraftBoy]

I'm ok with moving up for Jack depending on the cost. I would rather swap 2nd's this year and give up a 3rd next year then lose any picks this year.

[Scumbag College]

In the second round I could see us going in pretty much any direction.

Maybe Whitehair on the OL if we don't think Miller is more than a career backup. Or if there is still a question about Henderson's health an OT like Coleman, Clark, or Spriggs.

WR is really concerning, if it isn't addressed then we go into the season with Sammy and Woods at 1 and 2, with some guys that were street free agents last year, Dez Lewis, and others I have no idea where they came from. Boyd from Pitt or Thomas from Ohio St. would be immediate helps to Tyrod and the offense.

QB is a possibility today, although guys like Cook, Hack, and Cardale Jones in the second don't excite me.

A true NT would be great in this defense, giving us a really good potential front seven and letting us kick Hughes to rush LB and Lawson opposite him. Both I think their natural positions in this defense, and not DE. Shaq-Billings-Dareus up front with Kyle and Bryant spelling the DEs and maybe a guy like TJ Barnes would round out the line as a backup NT.

At OLB if Spence is around, I think he's the best pure pass rusher in the draft left. Jack is such a question mark, I don't know if he'll be taken first tonight or in the third. The doctors must know something we don't. Cravens from USC and Perry from Ohio St. are in the mix here, too.

I'm not sold that ILB isn't going to be addressed until tomorrow. I think Brown and Brown are going to compliment each other well, and with Ragland slipping I don't think teams put too much of a premium on drafting the position that high.

Safety can wait til the third or later IMO, I want some insurance if A. Williams can't play and I liked the Blandon pick up in FA, but would like better depth since I don't trust Duke, Meeks, and the others if they have to play at all.

[YardRat]

Round 3

Charone Peake, WR, Clemson / Kenny Lawler, WR, California / De-Runnya Wilson, WR, Miss. St / Jayron Kearse, S, Clemson / Spencer Drango, OT, Baylor / Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia / Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky / John Theus, OT, Georgia

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Adrew Billings. Steelers were high on him. Gotta believe Whaley is too (from the same mindset).

[Mr. Pink]

2nd Jihad Ward

3rd Braxton Miller

[stuckincincy]

Adrew Billings. Steelers were high on him. Gotta believe Whaley is too (from the same mindset).

Indeed they were. Here's their fan site - blasting CIN for taking CB Jackson, then astounded at the Artie Burns pick.

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/threads/2016-nfl-draft-discussion-thread-no-spoilers.14474/page-18

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Indeed they were. Here's their fan site - blasting CIN for taking CB Jackson, then astounded at the Artie Burns pick.

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/threads/2016-nfl-draft-discussion-thread-no-spoilers.14474/page-18

If Lynch were there, I have no doubt he would be the 2nd round pick even though he is rated lower than many other players. Now that Lynch is gone, I think the Bills go immediate help mold and I think Billings would be a day 1 starter as well. Dareus, Billings, (Kyle) Williams. Lawson, Brown, Brown, Hughes will be our starting 7 against Baltimore.

[Mahdi]

Any of Robinson, Billings or Jack would be great... Even Reed

[Victor7]

BPA except for RB, TE and CB

All other position come in play.

[Ed]

Noah Spence is my favorite remaining prospect, but I'm assuming he would play the same position as Shaq or Jerry Hughes, so I don't know that they would even take him if available. If they go DL I think Chris Jones would be my top choice.

If I had to guess though, I would put my money on Cravens being the pick. I could also see them taking WR Michael Thomas.

[cookie G]

Jason Spriggs
Sterling Shepard
Cody Whitehair
Javon Hargrave

[ghz in pittsburgh]

I'm ok with moving up for Jack depending on the cost. I would rather swap 2nd's this year and give up a 3rd next year then lose any picks this year.

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn (https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn)<small class="time" style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(136, 153, 166);"> 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/726050773616963584)</small>
#NFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash) med source tells me Myles Jack knee more troubling in some ways than Jaylon Smith. While Smith's heals in time, Jack's deteriorates.

[DraftBoy]

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn (https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn)<small class="time" style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(136, 153, 166);"> 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/726050773616963584)</small>
#NFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash) med source tells me Myles Jack knee more troubling in some ways than Jaylon Smith. While Smith's heals in time, Jack's deteriorates.


That's without the microfracture surgery.

[Scumbag College]

Ed Werder ‏@Edwerderespn (https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn)<small class="time" style="font-size: 13px; color: rgb(136, 153, 166);"> 4h4 hours ago (https://twitter.com/Edwerderespn/status/726050773616963584)</small>
#NFL (https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFL?src=hash) med source tells me Myles Jack knee more troubling in some ways than Jaylon Smith. While Smith's heals in time, Jack's deteriorates.


I know that there's strategy and gamesmanship, but if someone is leaking out misleading info on this kid in efforts to get them to fall to their team, then there is a special place in hell for them. If it is in fact true, I have to feel for the kid. He is (or was) a great athlete and will have a lifetime of "what could have been" to relive in his head over and over.

[Jry44]

That's without the microfracture surgery.

In my experience with physical therapy, any type of nerve damage is very unpredictable. So I'm not sure that I would say that Smiths injury is less of a concern. With Jack, it depends on where the meniscus tear is really. Once that thing wears away, it's gone because cartilage can't heal. Micro fracture surgery is risky as well, see Greg Oden. Both are concerning.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

In my experience with physical therapy, any type of nerve damage is very unpredictable. So I'm not sure that I would say that Smiths injury is less of a concern. With Jack, it depends on where the meniscus tear is really. Once that thing wears away, it's gone because cartilage can't heal. Micro fracture surgery is risky as well, see Greg Oden. Both are concerning.

The Pats today can gamble with Jack and Smith on their 1st 2 days picks. The Bills of 1987 could gamble with Thurman Thomas. not the 2016 Bills. There is a time and place for this kind of stuff. I'd much rather they gamble on a QB right now.

[Ed]

I'm not sure he'll be there when the Bills pick, but I could see TE Hunter Henry being a possibility. We haven't really talked about TE, but there's questionable talent/depth behind Clay and Clay has some health concerns. It sounds like Henry is a great run blocker and can also make plays in the passing game. Considering Roman likes to use 2 TEs maybe it's more of a need than we think and Henry could provide good value.

[paladin warrior]

I would like get DT Robinson A" Shawn or Jones,Chris / 3 rds WR Thomas,Michael or Cooper, Pharoh

[justasportsfan]

If we stick with DL , I would like a player who can play both 3-4 and 4-3 in case Rex is gone next year and we end up with a 4-3 D under the next HC.

[Mace]

My 1st round nono's were QB, DB, WR, RB.

2nd round nono's to me are RB, QB, WR. DB's come into play.

3rd round and down, no RB's. After that anything goes.

I'm not going to throw out any names today, there's still too much talent at the related positions for me to get too upset outside my personal nono's. I won't get upset if they roll the bones on Jaylon or Jack without trading up. Maybe not even if they do trade up depending on what they give up, needs to not be much though.

I'd be all over G Whitehair if he was there, don't think he will be, same for DT's Billings, Robinson or Reed. At this point I think the BPA list at their normal spot should be just dandy.

[YardRat]

We're going to have a shot at one of these guys...

LB Myles Jack
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd
TE Henry Hunter
DT Chris Jones
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

[swiper]

Predicting Zak Prescott or Kevin Hogan are picked by the Bills in either round 2 or 3 tonight. Beyond this year, we don't know about Taylor.

Don't get caught begging next year, like Denver, the Jets and a couple others this year.

It's ****ing DAK, not ZAK.

[swiper]

Any of Robinson, Billings or Jack would be great... Even Reed

First Mahdi thread I've ever thanked.

BILLINGS
BILLINGS
BILLINGS
BILLINGS
BILLINGS
BILLINGS
BILLINGS
BILLINGS
BILLINGS

[Mace]

It's ****ing DAK, not ZAK.

It's not ****ing Dak, it's Dak.

[YardRat]

I'm going to make this the official thread if nobody minds

[Mace]

Showtime !

[YardRat]

IT'S OFFICIALLY OFFICIAL!!!

[swiper]

I'm going to make this the official thread if nobody minds

Why is it I want to punch Mel Kiper in the face every time I have to listen to him talk?

[stuckincincy]

I'm going to make this the official thread if nobody minds

Fine with me - I didn't see one so I started one. Please wipe that one out.

[Luisito23]

Bruuuuuuuuuuce!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mace]

Always love seeing those old legends. Warfield is looking sharp, despised him in his day. Willie Brown, Bruuuuuuuuce, Csonka, Butkus and company !

[YardRat]

Sorry, cincy.

[Mr. Pink]

Holy crap the Browns didn't trade and actually made their pick.

[YardRat]

Mayock makes a good point...probably won't see a QB go for a few picks, if a team wanted one that badly this early they would have traded back into the late first yesterday to get the fifth year option.

[Mace]

Sure can't imagine why they have to make their way back from across the street to make a pick. What are they doing across the street ?

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Warfield !

[Mace]

nice pick for the Browns.

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd
TE Henry Hunter
DT Chris Jones
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

[DraftBoy]

Gonna be back to back DE's to start the 2nd.

[Mr. Pink]

And they actually made a good pick on top of not trading down.

[sudzy]

Just nobody draft Jack or Ragland

[sudzy]

Gonna be back to back DE's to start the 2nd.

good call

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter
DT Chris Jones
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

[DraftBoy]

One players fall is going to stop in a second, but it may not be the one you immediately think of.

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good call

For the record, I'm not calling it, I'm simply monitoring twitter and tipping picks for people. Only team I won't do it for is the Bills.

[DraftBoy]

Jaylon Smith goes over Myles Jack in a huge surprise.

[Ed]

Happy for Jaylon Smith, but I wish he wasn't a Cowboy.

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter
DT Chris Jones
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

LB Jaylon Smith-GONE-Dallas

[sudzy]

Crazy pick

[Mace]

Crazy pick

Will find out in 2017, might be brilliant.

[DraftBoy]

Jacksonville has traded up with Baltimore.

[Mr. Pink]

I'd draft Smith ahead of Jack every day.

Still taking him in the 2nd round is kind of crazy.

[DraftBoy]

San Diego takes TE Hunter Henry

Jacksonville will take the guy that so many people have been talking about overnight with the next pick.

[sudzy]

SD takes TE Henry Hunter

[Mace]

San Diego takes TE Hunter Henry

Jacksonville will take the guy that so many people have been talking about overnight with the next pick.

Moritz Boehringer !

[sudzy]

Moritz Boehringer !

I hope so

[swiper]

Jack is a Jag

[sudzy]

****

[Mace]

Yay for Jack !

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack-GONE-Jacksonville
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter-GONE-San Diego
DT Chris Jones
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

LB Jaylon Smith-GONE-Dallas

[swiper]

Bye bye Poz

[DraftBoy]

This may be the start of the DT run with Kansas City.

[DraftBoy]

Miami has jumped up from 42 to 38 with Baltimore.

[Mace]

That's going to start a DT run.

[sudzy]

Got a feeling my top three are going bang, bang, bang

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack-GONE-Jacksonville
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter-GONE-San Diego
DT Chris Jones-GONE-Kansas City
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

LB Jaylon Smith-GONE-Dallas

[paladin warrior]

aww Damn it :madmad:

[Mr. Pink]

Glad both of the injured guys went so we don't have to worry about the Bills taking either one.

One guy who, while likely will heal and play a long time, may never play a down and another guy who'd be happy to get 3 seasons in.

bring on Jihad Ward!

[DraftBoy]

I have no ideas why the Dolphins felt the need to trade up to pick this player. Not on Yardie's board.

[sudzy]

I have no ideas why the Dolphins felt the need to trade up to pick this player. Not on Yardie's board.

good

[DraftBoy]

Dolphins also paid a higher price to move up then Jacksonville did. The odd gets odder.

[Mace]

Dolphins also paid a higher price to move up then Jacksonville did. The odd gets odder.

Go Fins go !

[Mace]

Argh. I had my eye on him. Good comments by Csonka.

No idea why they had to move up for him though.

[sudzy]

Feel free to spoil for us Draft boy

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Xavian who?

[DraftBoy]

Feel free to spoil for us Draft boy

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Xavian who?

I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

If people want, I will go ahead and announce the pick. I just thought it was more enjoyable to add a slight element of mystery.

[The Jokeman]

Feel free to spoil for us Draft boy

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Xavian who?

Except when Bills pick.

[DraftBoy]

Bucs taking a DE/OLB prospect.

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Except when Bills pick.

Already made that promise.

[Mace]

I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

If people want, I will go ahead and announce the pick. I just thought it was more enjoyable to add a slight element of mystery.

Doesn't bother me any, I look at the thread after the pick mostly.

[sudzy]

I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

If people want, I will go ahead and announce the pick. I just thought it was more enjoyable to add a slight element of mystery.

I'm all for it

[stuckincincy]

I can't tell if you're being serious or not.

If people want, I will go ahead and announce the pick. I just thought it was more enjoyable to add a slight element of mystery.

Works for me....

[DraftBoy]

Bucs taking DE/LB Spence after trading up.

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BILLS TRADE!

[sudzy]

Good pick for the Bucs

[Mace]

Nice pick for the Bucs.

[DraftBoy]

Bills have moved up to pick #41 from #49.

That's the last you'll hear from me until after the Bills pick.

[sudzy]

Ragland?

[Mace]

Bucs taking DE/LB Spence after trading up.

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BILLS TRADE!

Oh no.

[DraftBoy]

Giants go with a WR here, so the defensive board is wide open for the Bills.

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack-GONE-Jacksonville
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter-GONE-San Diego
DT Chris Jones-GONE-Kansas City
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence--GONE--Tampa Bay
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

LB Jaylon Smith-GONE-Dallas
CB Xavian Howard-GONE-Miami

[DraftBoy]

Bills sent 2016 and 2017 4th to move up.

[stuckincincy]

Bills have moved up to pick #41 from #49.

That's the last you'll hear from me until after the Bills pick.

I hope they're not targeting one of those 'Bama DTs...

[BillsImpossible]

Billings

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack-GONE-Jacksonville
LB Reggie Ragland
DT A'Shawn Robinson
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter-GONE-San Diego
DT Chris Jones-GONE-Kansas City
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence--GONE--Tampa Bay
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs

LB Jaylon Smith-GONE-Dallas
CB Xavian Howard-GONE-Miami
WR Sterling Shepard-GONE-NY Giants

[The Jokeman]

Bills have moved up to pick #41 from #49.

That's the last you'll hear from me until after the Bills pick.

I think it's gotta be Reed.

[Mace]

Gotta be a Bama DT.

[MikeInRoch]

Yes.....

[sudzy]

2016 what?
Please no 1st

[Mr. Pink]

Sterling Shepard is a really good pick for the Giants. Also likely signals the end of Victor Cruz.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the Bills moved up for Connor Cook, because he visited and why not go with something ridiculous.

[DraftBoy]

:-)

[Mike]

Who will Bills take?

[Mace]

Reed Reed Reed Reed !

[SpikedLemonade]

Bills sent 2016 and 2017 4th to move up.

Good move.

4th round picks are not where you find difference makers.

[ICRockets]

2 4ths? When all the Broncos had to give up to move ahead in the 1st was a 6th?

[BillsImpossible]

Who will Bills take?

Day 1 starter, Billings

[SpikedLemonade]

Billings or Reed works for me.

Both top 5 DTs in this draft.

[Mike]

These commercials suck...

[swiper]

RAGLAND

[Mr. Pink]

And no one got it.

Reggie Ragland is the winner!

[YardRat]

YEEEEAAAHHHHH!!!!

[sudzy]

Yes

[BillsImpossible]

Ragland works for me.

[DraftBoy]

Love adding Ragland, perfect fit inside in the 3-4. Fills the role Spikes played here a couple of years ago.

[Mike]

Reggie

[SpikedLemonade]

I would trade our 3rd from this year and our 3rd from next year to trade into the bottom half of the 2nd round for a DT if Billings or one of the 2 Bama DTs are still there.

[MikeInRoch]

Seems like a lot to trade up 8 slots...

[ICRockets]

Love the pick. Our defense is better on Day One with these 2 picks, both will be starting against Baltimore.

[Mace]

I'm not sure I get it, but I'm good with it.

[Mike]

This guy knows how to hit.
dangerous man!

[DraftBoy]

Seems like a lot to trade up 8 slots...

Huge price to pay, but you got a first round talent in Round 2.

[Mace]

Seems like a lot to trade up 8 slots...

Haven't seen what they gave up yet.

[swiper]

I would trade our 3rd from this year and our 3rd from next year to trade into the bottom half of the 2nd round for a DT if Billings or one of the 2 Bama DTs are still there.

Man if they added Billings to these two it would be epic.

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Huge price to pay, but you got a first round talent in Round 2.

What did they give up?

[SpikedLemonade]

Man if they added Billings to these two it would be epic.

It would be a complete retool of the front 7 in one year.

[MikeInRoch]

They gave up this year and next year's 4ths

[BillsImpossible]

Sal Capaccio compared Reggie Ragland to Cornelius Bennett and Derrick Thomas.

Sounds good.

[Mr. Pink]

Love adding Ragland, perfect fit inside in the 3-4. Fills the role Spikes played here a couple of years ago.

Very similar player to Spikes. Will be a good 2 down backer.

I know Alabama used different packages to get him in on pass rush situations but I don't foresee that occurring at the NFL level.

[Mike]

Man if they added Billings to these two it would be epic.

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What did they give up?

Two 4th round picks (16,17) I believe

[SpikedLemonade]

They gave up this year and next year's 4ths


And their own 2nd round pick.

[Mr. Pink]

Sal Capaccio compared Reggie Ragland to Cornelius Bennett and Derrick Thomas.

Sounds good.

Sal is flat out wrong if that's who he compared Ragland to. Period.

[Mace]

They gave up this year and next year's 4ths

Hm.

Might be ok, we have a comp pick in the 4th. I dunno.

[swiper]

They gave up this year and next year's 4ths

Yikes

[Mace]

Sal is flat out wrong if that's who he compared Ragland to. Period.

Yeah, he's no Biscuit, might be a 3 down Spikes though.

[swiper]

Punch Kiper in the mouth please.

[sudzy]

Sal Capaccio compared Reggie Ragland to Cornelius Bennett and Derrick Thomas.

Sounds good.

Bennett was one of the best LB vs the pass. Ragland's weakness is pass coverage

[The Jokeman]

Love adding Ragland, perfect fit inside in the 3-4. Fills the role Spikes played here a couple of years ago.

The problem is only Dareus and maybe Wynn fits the mold for 3-4 D-lineman.

[swiper]

Sal is flat out wrong if that's who he compared Ragland to. Period.

Wouldn't be the first time he looked clueless.

[MikeInRoch]

Sal is flat out wrong if that's who he compared Ragland to. Period.

Maybe it was in this context:


In fact, Ragland was the third Alabama player to earn unanimous All-American notice, joining Cornelius Bennett and Derrick Thomas.

[SpikedLemonade]

Punch Kiper in the mouth please.

No ESPN coverage up here tonight.

What did Kiper say?

[Mr. Pink]

Maybe it was in this context:

I hope that's how the comparison was, not with the way they play on the field.

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Jihad Ward to thaaaaa Raid-uhs!

[The Jokeman]

Sal is flat out wrong if that's who he compared Ragland to. Period.

Agreed Ragland closer to Donta Hightower.

[swiper]

No ESPN coverage up here tonight.

What did Kiper say?

Kiper is like Hillary Clinton. Mad and entitled. And not very credible.

[Mace]

Bennett was one of the best LB vs the pass. Ragland's weakness is pass coverage

We only use 2 3-down real linebackers. This makes Preston and Zach fight for the other spot.

[paladin warrior]

:bf1:I love it.. Bills pick in the 2nd round :dance2::bf1: Ragland.R

[cookie G]

I'm not sure I get it, but I'm good with it.

Oh, I get it.

Mr. Edelman, I'd like you to meet someone

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[sudzy]

Since Reed is only a 2 down player, any chance he drops into the 3rd?

[sudzy]

Think the Titans will run the ball this year Henry and Murray?

[stuckincincy]

Since Reed is only a 2 down player, any chance he drops into the 3rd?

Dunno - he and the other 'bama DT aren't touted for pass rush ability.

[Mr. Pink]

DeMarco Murray has to be pissed. :rofl:

[Mace]

Oh, I get it.

Mr. Edelman, I'd like you to meet someone

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He's not going to be on Edelman, that's Shaq Lawson's job. I would have rather had Cody Whitehair, or a 'Bama DT.

I like Ragland though. I think he's going to be the mlb for years and think he ends up calling the signals.

Best pick at the slot and worth trading up for ? I dunno. I'm not real upset we have a Reggie Ragland though.

[psubills62]

Only three offensive picks (was typing two before the Titans got Derrick Henry) in the second round so far. Lot of front 7 picks.

[The last buffalo fan]

Oh, I get it.

Mr. Edelman, I'd like you to meet someone

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:drool: :drool2:

[ParanoidAndroid]

Preston Brown is now a back-up.

[psubills62]

With A'Shawn Robinson selected, 11 out of 15 picks in the second round have been the front 7.

[The Jokeman]

Since Reed is only a 2 down player, any chance he drops into the 3rd?

Doubtful. Billings might but is wishful thinking.

[The Jokeman]

Preston Brown is now a back-up.

Not if we move to a 3-4.

[sahlensguy]

Uhg. 2 4ths is a pile to give up for a two down lb. Bama even took him of the field on passing downs.

[The Jokeman]

Uhg. 2 4ths is a pile to give up for a two down lb. Bama even took him of the fields on passing downs.
We got an extra 4th this year and not hard getting one back next year. Besides without googling who was the last impact 4th Rounder we've had?

[DraftBoy]

Preston Brown is now a back-up.

Not according to Whaley.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Packers about to grab Billings?

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Not according to Whaley.

He was interviewed after the pick already?

[DraftBoy]

The thing with Ragland is this, if you think he's a two down LB then you're wrong. You need to be creative in order to protect him against coverage issues but Ryan can match a lot of what Saban did defensively to utilize Ragland all over the LB corp. Would expect to see him utilized as a pass rusher in a nickle scheme with Brown dropping into coverage.

[Mace]

Not if we move to a 3-4.

He'd better be better than Zach then. We use 2 lb's.

[stuckincincy]

Doubtful. Billings might but is wishful thinking.

CIN may be interested in Billings - to stiff-arm the Steelers... :kid:


The Steelers fan site is a hoot, BTW:

One member posted "damn tornadoe sirens going off beter go outside and look "

And got the reply: "Those are just the warning alarms for what is about to come after Cincy grabs Billings."

http://thesteelersfans.com/forums/threads/2016-nfl-draft-discussion-thread-no-spoilers.14474/page-33

[DraftBoy]

He was interviewed after the pick already?

Yes, he comes out minutes after the pick.

[sahlensguy]

We got an extra 4th this year and not hard getting one back next year. Besides without googling who was the last impact 4th Rounder we've had?

Ragland's coverage skills weren't good in college. This is not the recipe to cover New England and trading away picks for him is questionable. But we'll see.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Nope

[Saratoga Slim]

I like our picks but perhaps the best part of this draft is that NE still hasn't drafted anyone

[The Jokeman]

Ragland's coverage skills weren't good in college. This is not the recipe to cover New England and trading away picks for him is questionable. But we'll see.

Until Brady retires we aren't competing with the Patriots. Instead we competing with the Jets, KC, Pittsburgh, Houston and maybe Indy for a Wild Card spot.

[stuckincincy]

Spriggs - decent pick for GB.

[Saratoga Slim]

I think this pick is Reed

[sudzy]

Well there goes Reed

[SpikedLemonade]

That only leaves Billings as a NT who can start THIS year.

I would trade up before the two NE picks coming up if we want him.

Would cost our 3rd this year, our 5th this year and our 3rd next year.

We would be moving up more than 20 picks.

[Mace]

Well there goes Reed

I don't think we're going to get an NT/DT anymore.

[BillsImpossible]

Will Andrew Billings fall to the 3rd round?

[stuckincincy]

I like our picks but perhaps the best part of this draft is that NE still hasn't drafted anyone

They're probably the ones that were booing Goodell yesterday.

[SpikedLemonade]

Will Andrew Billings fall to the 3rd round?


No way.

Mayock and other draft gurus had him as one of the top 5 DTs this year.

[Mace]

That only leaves Billings as a NT who can start THIS year.

I would trade up before the two NE picks coming up if we want him.

Would cost our 3rd this year, our 5th this year and our 3rd next year.

We would be moving up more than 20 picks.

Well, I'm not so sure DJ Reader or Lawrence-Stample can't play in a rotation, but I don't think they're looking.

[sudzy]

If Billings goes, I'll be looking at starting RT candidates.

[BillsImpossible]

I like our picks but perhaps the best part of this draft is that NE still hasn't drafted anyone

Could this draft get any better?

[SpikedLemonade]

If Billings goes, I'll be looking at starting RT candidates.

That is a good idea.

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack-GONE-Jacksonville
LB Reggie Ragland--BOOOOOMMM!!!!!
DT A'Shawn Robinson-GONE-Detriot
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter-GONE-San Diego
DT Chris Jones-GONE-Kansas City
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed-GONE-Seattle
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence--GONE--Tampa Bay
CB Mackensie Alexander
NT Austin Johnson-GONE-Tennessee
LB Su'a Cravens
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs-GONE-Green Bay

LB Jaylon Smith-GONE-Dallas
CB Xavian Howard-GONE-Miami
WR Sterling Shepard-GONE-NY Giants
DE Kammalei Correa-GONE-Baltimore
DT Jihad War-GONE-Oakland
RB Derrick Henry-GONE-Tennessee
WR Mochael Thomas-GONE-New Orleans
G-Nick Martin-GONE-Houston

[stuckincincy]

C Nick Martin to HOU - 3rd ND player picked.

[sudzy]

Jets WIFF again

[Mace]

Well thank goodness he's off the board.

[YardRat]

And there goes Hackenberg

[Mr. Pink]

The Geno Smith era is officially over!

[The Jokeman]

Rut row Fitzpatrick might be out of a job.

[DraftBoy]

Jets get Hack. Very interesting.

[sudzy]

The Geno Smith era is officially over!

The next miss at QB era has began. 50% completion. EJ ish

[stuckincincy]

And there goes Hackenberg

Jets keep pluggin' away...

[BillsImpossible]

And there goes Hackenberg

Thank God

[YardRat]

lol---'Hackenberg'---I remember thinking 'There is no way a guy named Rofflesburger will ever amount to any kind of QB'.

[paladin warrior]

LOL Jets took QB LOL Jets is going to puke :jetsuck::jetsuck:

[Mace]

lol---'Hackenberg'---I remember thinking 'There is no way a guy named Rofflesburger will ever amount to any kind of QB'.

He never did. That was a "Big Ben", the guy here was a "Cranky Chris". Synergies.

[sudzy]

They still have to sign Fitz. No way they go into the season with Geno, Petty and Hack

[Mace]

Good Falcons pick.

[stuckincincy]

No takers for Connor Cook yet.

Get 'er done, Dougie! Scratch that itch! :jig:

[BillsImpossible]

3rd round pick - all in on defense, or offense?

Any potential #2 WR on the board?

[Mace]

Awwww.

[paladin warrior]

i think bills get WR in the 3rd round pick

[The Jokeman]

They still have to sign Fitz. No way they go into the season with Geno, Petty and Hack

But does Fitz want to sign there? I mean he won't get a three year deal now.

[BillsImpossible]

Boyd off the board.

[The Jokeman]

No takers for Connor Cook yet.

Get 'er done, Dougie! Scratch that itch! :jig:

Him or Billings be nice.

[DraftBoy]

Billings is still falling. Bit shocked by that.

[SpikedLemonade]

If we want NT Billings, now is the time to trade up before those two NE picks to get him.

A 3rd round WR or S will be a wasted pick. Neither will be a starter this year.

Billings would be.

[YardRat]

LB Myles Jack-GONE-Jacksonville
LB Reggie Ragland--BOOOOOMMM!!!!!
DT A'Shawn Robinson-GONE-Detriot
DE Kevin Dodd-GONE-Tennessee
TE Henry Hunter-GONE-San Diego
DT Chris Jones-GONE-Kansas City
G Cody Whitehair
DT Jarran Reed-GONE-Seattle
OLB Jordan Jenkins
DE Emmanuel Ogbah-GONE-Cleveland
NT Andrew Billings
OT Le'Raven Clark
DE Noah Spence--GONE--Tampa Bay
CB Mackensie Alexander-GONE-Minnesota
NT Austin Johnson-GONE-Tennessee
LB Su'a Cravens-GONE-Washington
OT Shon Coleman
OT Jason Spriggs-GONE-Green Bay

LB Jaylon Smith-GONE-Dallas
CB Xavian Howard-GONE-Miami
WR Sterling Shepard-GONE-NY Giants
DE Kammalei Correa-GONE-Baltimore
DT Jihad War-GONE-Oakland
RB Derrick Henry-GONE-Tennessee
WR Mochael Thomas-GONE-New Orleans
G-Nick Martin-GONE-Houston
QB-Christian Hackenberg-GONE-NY Jets
OLB Dion Jones-GONE-Atlanta
WR Tyler Boyd-GONE-Cincinnati

[DraftBoy]

Kudos to the Bills brass who sold the Hack smokescreen the whole way, per Carucci the Bills didn't have a 2nd or 3rd round grade on Hack.

[The Jokeman]

If we want NT Billings, now is the time to trade up before those two NE picks to get him.

A 3rd round WR or S will be a wasted pick. Neither will be a starter this year.

Billings would be.

I doubt Pats go NT. I could see LB and RB.

[stuckincincy]

Billings is still falling. Bit shocked by that.

Same here. PGH maybe?

[sudzy]

Another Yard's guys goes

[SpikedLemonade]

I like that Guard Cody Whitehair a lot better than our Miller.

[DraftBoy]

Seriously the only team whose draft I would trade the Bills for right now would be Jacksonville. The Bills are legitimately winning a draft. That's kind of incredible.

[Mace]

I like that Guard Cody Whitehair a lot better than our Miller.

Yeah, me too.

[DraftBoy]

A KICKER!

[paladin warrior]

I think Cheater Pats going get RB Pick

[cookie G]

He's not going to be on Edelman, that's Shaq Lawson's job. I would have rather had Cody Whitehair, or a 'Bama DT.

I like Ragland though. I think he's going to be the mlb for years and think he ends up calling the signals.

Best pick at the slot and worth trading up for ? I dunno. I'm not real upset we have a Reggie Ragland though.

I thought it was time to shore up the right side of the line (and now it most definitely is)...but its really hard to hate this pick.

People might see him as "just a hitter" but he was also the first unanimous all American LB since Biscuit. Comparisons are silly, they didn't play the same positions.

He's a better athlete than people are giving him credit.

And you're certainly not going to see him avoiding contact like a Zach Brown or a Donald Lee.

[Ed]

There goes the kicker. Didn't think he'd go that early.

[Mr. Pink]

Wow, they moved up for Aguayo!

[paladin warrior]

aww Tampa Bay took a kicker wow in the 2nd round pick

[YardRat]

Guys I want in the third that are still there...

Von Bell, S, Ohio State / Landon Turner, OG, North Carolina /Graham Glasgow, C/G, Michigan / Charone Peake, WR, Clemson / Kenny Lawler, WR, California / De-Runnya Wilson, WR, Miss. St / Jayron Kearse, S, Clemson / Spencer Drango, OT, Baylor / Jordan Jenkins, OLB, Georgia / Tyler Higbee, TE, Western Kentucky / John Theus, OT, Georgia

Plus DT Billings, OLB Jenkins and OT Coleman.

[stuckincincy]

PGH picks S Sean Davis. Sweet...another Steeler who the refs will let get away with murder...

And from the Steelers fan site: "Wow! Billings must have multiple warrants out on him." :kid:

[YardRat]

Agree with it or not, that's a great pick for TB IMO.

[sudzy]

A KICKER!

Oh those wacky Bucs

[DraftBoy]

Pats go CB and take Cyrus Jones with their first pick.

[DraftBoy]

Pats have traded their 2nd second round pick.

[stuckincincy]

Pats have traded their 2nd second round pick.

Who to? I know they owe Satan big time...

[sudzy]

Lots of good player still sitting there

[Mr. Pink]

Good pick by the Saints.

[DraftBoy]

Damn there goes Vonn Bell. Would of liked him in the 3rd.

[sudzy]

Bell is gone

[Scumbag College]

Bills taking a QB in the third. Espeially since trading that first fourth away, there will be 50ish picks until they pick again.

[DraftBoy]

Carolina going way off the board with a CB pick from Samford.

[SpikedLemonade]

Trade up now for Billings.

Have him play only running downs.

[paladin warrior]

Conner cook QB is still there . If Bills take him in 3rd or 4th

[YardRat]

Awwwww....****. Bradberry has been my sleeper pick to move to safety. Kinda surprised he went this high.

[ParanoidAndroid]

What's the deal with Billings?

[SpikedLemonade]

Whose NFL GM's mother did Billings screw to drop this much?

He was projected to go in the 1st round.