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Mace
05-01-2016, 09:14 PM
Not including udfa's.

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bills-news-notes/2016/5/1/11549820/buffalo-bills-depth-chart-post-2016-nfl-draft

It's only projected, and nothing happened yet, but at least to me, it's not real inspiring atm, atm being the pertinent point in May.

YardRat
05-02-2016, 04:15 AM
Stacked at running back again, and quarterback has gone from ????? to ???, so that's a plus.

Don't Panic
05-02-2016, 05:03 AM
If Miller, Henderson, Woods, and whoever else plays Safety next to Graham play well, I'd say we're in really good shape.

DraftBoy
05-02-2016, 05:19 AM
Thanks for ruining my Monday morning.

SpikedLemonade
05-02-2016, 05:58 AM
7-9

Mace
05-02-2016, 04:32 PM
I just don't like being that thin at punter.

sudzy
05-03-2016, 03:07 PM
I just look at LB and shake my head

YardRat
05-03-2016, 03:11 PM
I just look at LB and shake my head

Why? We're stacked. Hughes, S.Lawson, M.Lawson, Johnson outside, Ragland, P.Brown and Z.Brown inside.

I shake my head at WR, TE, Oline, Oline, Oline and safety.

DraftBoy
05-03-2016, 03:27 PM
Why? We're stacked. Hughes, S.Lawson, M.Lawson, Johnson outside, Ragland, P.Brown and Z.Brown inside..

How is that stacked? Two starters, two rookies, and a whole lotta suck.

YardRat
05-03-2016, 03:36 PM
How is that stacked? Two starters, two rookies, and a whole lotta suck.

Hughes, M.Lawson, P.Brown and Z.Brown all have starting (and successful to varying degrees) experience. Essentially two first round draft picks added to the mix. Johnson is now decent vet depth. That's seven quality guys for four spots, really three considering how often the team will be in nickel and dime.

Compared to TE (a dinged up Clay, and who?), safety (a dinged up AW, a converted corner, and a whole lotta suck there), WR (two starters, a STer and a whole lotta suck) and oline (OK, they've got starts under their belt but other than Glenn and Incognito the rest of the group is marginal at best and more suck).

Yes, compared to those other positions I would say the lber crew is 'stacked'.

feldspar
05-03-2016, 04:18 PM
Dunno why anybody who follows the NFL would expect a roster without holes. It just doesn't happen anywhere ever.

The biggest question is at quarterback, and has been that for quite some time. If we get quality play from Tyrod Taylor, the Bills should see some success. If they don't get quality play out of Taylor, the Bills probably WON'T see as much success. Hopefully, we remain relatively healthy as well...that's important to any team. I like this team and the players on it. We have a legitimate chance to make the playoffs this year if the ball bounces our way enough, I think. If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot a lot, too...

I'm perfectly prepared for a world of chagrin in one form or another, though...it's a habit by now.

EDS
05-03-2016, 04:29 PM
I could see a scenario at LB where Preston Brown is benched in favor of Ragland and Manny Lawson starts somewhere since he would likely have to take care of calling the plays in the huddle. I would be happy to be proven wrong on that.

The Jokeman
05-03-2016, 04:49 PM
I could see a scenario at LB where Preston Brown is benched in favor of Ragland and Manny Lawson starts somewhere since he would likely have to take care of calling the plays in the huddle. I would be happy to be proven wrong on that.

Manny and Z Brown likely going to be our nickel LBs.

sudzy
05-03-2016, 05:24 PM
Why? We're stacked. Hughes, S.Lawson, M.Lawson, Johnson outside, Ragland, P.Brown and Z.Brown inside.

I shake my head at WR, TE, Oline, Oline, Oline and safety.

Hughes, S.Lawson, M.Lawson, Johnson are listed as edge rusher. Ragland, Brown, Brown and Reddick are all that listed as (Inside) LB. Looks a little thin. Preston struggled last year.

YardRat
05-03-2016, 05:30 PM
Dunno why anybody who follows the NFL would expect a roster without holes. It just doesn't happen anywhere ever.

The biggest question is at quarterback, and has been that for quite some time. If we get quality play from Tyrod Taylor, the Bills should see some success. If they don't get quality play out of Taylor, the Bills probably WON'T see as much success. Hopefully, we remain relatively healthy as well...that's important to any team. I like this team and the players on it. We have a legitimate chance to make the playoffs this year if the ball bounces our way enough, I think. If we don't shoot ourselves in the foot a lot, too...

I'm perfectly prepared for a world of chagrin in one form or another, though...it's a habit by now.


I'd rather have holes at inactive third string quarterback, fourth string runningback, and practice squad cornerback than 2nd string tight end, swing tackle, and second string safety.

Night Train
05-03-2016, 05:57 PM
I could see a scenario at LB where Preston Brown is benched in favor of Ragland and Manny Lawson starts somewhere since he would likely have to take care of calling the plays in the huddle. I would be happy to be proven wrong on that.


Manny and Z Brown likely going to be our nickel LBs.

I think you're both on the right path. Lots of rotation on the DL (Dareus,Kyle Williams,Bryant,Washington and possibly 6-7 364 Barnes at NT) at ILB (Ragland,Zack Brown, Preston Brown). OLB/DE hybrid Jerry Hughes, Shaq Lawson,Manny Lawson The depth is now allowing this.

I believe Ragland will now be calling the plays.

The key is not so much a talent question.. but whether Rex feels he can now switch from Contain to Attack. He has the horses in the Front 7. Use them.

feldspar
05-03-2016, 07:47 PM
I'd rather have holes at inactive third string quarterback, fourth string runningback, and practice squad cornerback than 2nd string tight end, swing tackle, and second string safety.



Nobody's roster is even close to ideal.

A majority of the depth is probably going to be question marks rather than true known holes, where guys have already proven to be inadequate fillers. I think the Bills have a pretty strong overall roster. Like I said, how Taylor plays will say more about the Bills success or lack thereof than anything else, IMO. Gotta have strong QB play, and that's the key. I'm of the opinion that we'll be able to run the ball and play defense...ground and pound, and all that.

Mace
05-03-2016, 09:33 PM
I believe Ragland will now be calling the plays.

The key is not so much a talent question.. but whether Rex feels he can now switch from Contain to Attack. He has the horses in the Front 7. Use them.

I kind of wonder about that. If Ragland isn't at the start he soon should be. Agree about attack, just wonder if his defense hasn't been solved and teams with good coaching and smarter qbs will still shred it...like attacking might make it worse. Ryan scheme defenses just aren't doing that well these days.

Frenchman
05-03-2016, 09:35 PM
It is about trying to get the defense up on par. As Rex Ryan is a defensive kind of guy IMHO. As you get guys to boast up either defenses or offenses in the draft.

coastal
05-04-2016, 04:45 AM
7-9
Over and over and over again.

its a special brand of torture.

X-Era
05-04-2016, 04:55 AM
Why? We're stacked. Hughes, S.Lawson, M.Lawson, Johnson outside, Ragland, P.Brown and Z.Brown inside.

I shake my head at WR, TE, Oline, Oline, Oline and safety.We (the board) really need to have the debate about what the expectations should be for our OL. I'm rarely as down on the group as a whole as some are.

What is the expectations for the group? What are the measureables that we want to see? How are we measuring their performance now?

And to me the biggest thing is what does the competition have for talent on the OL and how do we measure up against them?

Want to start a thread on this?

DraftBoy
05-04-2016, 05:47 AM
Hughes, M.Lawson, P.Brown and Z.Brown all have starting (and successful to varying degrees) experience. Essentially two first round draft picks added to the mix. Johnson is now decent vet depth. That's seven quality guys for four spots, really three considering how often the team will be in nickel and dime.


What success are you attributing to Z. Brown who will have to fight just to stay on the roster at this point. M. Lawson already lost his job to a rookie without a single NFL snap which speaks volumes about how the Bills view his ability.

You don't need to compare the LB unit to any other. It's not stacked at all, it does have potential however. I'll give you one good player (Hughes), two decent players (Lawson and P. Brown), and two unproven rookies with limited talent behind them.

YardRat
05-04-2016, 03:37 PM
What success are you attributing to Z. Brown who will have to fight just to stay on the roster at this point. M. Lawson already lost his job to a rookie without a single NFL snap which speaks volumes about how the Bills view his ability.

He started 27 of his first 32 games in the league and topped 90 tackles both years. I consider that 'successful to a varying degree'. M.Lawson, truth be known, is probably the best fit at OLB in this style defense, that's why Pettine started him in 2013 and kept Hughes on the bench, using him basically as a pass-rushing specialist. You and I both know that abilities be damned, there is no way the team is going to pick somebody at #19 and not start him.


You don't need to compare the LB unit to any other. It's not stacked at all, it does have potential however. I'll give you one good player (Hughes), two decent players (Lawson and P. Brown), and two unproven rookies with limited talent behind them.

We'll just have to agree to disagree then, I think the LBer unit is more than fine after the draft with a good mix of proven vets, talented rookies, and depth.

John Doe
05-04-2016, 04:28 PM
I prefer to look at the entire depth chart, including undrafted free agents:

http://www.billsdaily.com/depthchart/

Mace
05-04-2016, 05:46 PM
I prefer to look at the entire depth chart, including undrafted free agents:

http://www.billsdaily.com/depthchart/

We're still pretty damn thin at punter. Carpenter is the backup ? Someone made that up. They're trying to hide the lack of depth at punter. I blame Jim Monos, because I haven't mentioned him in a long time and he needs to be blamed for something.