This draft can ve equivalent to the Marino Kelly draft

[Cali512]

For the past few years the top QBs are usually consistently the best QBs in college during their tenure. This is the first year that you have 4-5 QBs going in the 2nd to 5th rounds that at some point in there career could of been 1st round picks. You look at Hackenburg with not much talent yet playing big time teams and ran a pro style offense. You have Cook who was a top QB prospect the last few years than didn't have a talented team last year. Prescott who played for a small school who had to play big time teams. Essentially Mississippi st was like on the longest yard when Crew refers to Appalachia as a warm up game. Yet they became a top team due to Dak. Then you have 11-0 Cardale who made some amazing throws and had a 11-0 record for a powerhouse. Than Paxton who has Jim Kelly like intangibles and looks like possibly the most gifted QB since Newton\Luck is considered the 3rd best QB in the draft. I have to ask why is there so many people saying this was a bad QB class? Remember Wilson, Luck and Newton are the only elite QBs to come out in the past few years

[YardRat]

There is no way in hell this draft produces three HOF QBs...no way. Especially considering, supported by the 'evidence' presented regarding Wilson, Luck and Newton, colleges aren't supplying the NFL with quality QBs like they used to back in the day.

[Mr. Pink]

At best this draft will have a QB equivalent to O'Brien or Eason.

The rest of the group will end up like Blackledge or Bruce Mathison - who was selected later in that 83 Draft.

[sudzy]

At best this draft will have a QB equivalent to O'Brien or Eason.

The rest of the group will end up like Blackledge or Bruce Mathison - who was selected later in that 83 Draft.

How would you like to have been the scout that told KC Blackledge was the 2nd best QB that year?

[coastal]

I need to pursue my Captain Ron fantasies.

[Mace]

I need to pursue my Captain Ron fantasies.

Absolutely no excuse not to if the opportunity is even remotely there. Just have a glass eye that fits better.

[Ginger Vitis]

"Elway to Marino" best ESPN 30 for 30 IMO

[Ginger Vitis]

How would you like to have been the scout that told KC Blackledge was the 2nd best QB that year?

Even Blackledge was surprised he was the 2nd QB taken... Penn State the college he played for had just come off winning the national championship so there was a perception he was a winner and that was the deciding factor in the chiefs taken Blackledge over Kelly and Marino..

Their is a certain QB who just got drafted who is getting too much credit "cough" "cough BI" "cough" for "leading" his team to a national championship in college

[Luisito23]

:negrep:

[sudzy]

Even Blackledge was surprised he was the 2nd QB taken... Penn State the college he played for had just come off winning the national championship so there was a perception he was a winner and that was the deciding factor in the chiefs taken Blackledge over Kelly and Marino..

Their is a certain QB who just got drafted who is getting too much credit "cough" "cough BI" "cough" for "leading" his team to a national championship in college

This QB you speak of wouldn't happen be 11-0, would he?

[Ginger Vitis]

This QB you speak of wouldn't happen be 11-0, would he?


Is that his record in college... hmmm impressive I guess but still think he will be out of the NFL in 5 years


One thing that needs to be remembered is when Elway was coming out of college he was talked about as a "once a decade QB prospect" Goff and Wentz aren't even as good as last years Winston/mariota combo... Sorry Cali this 2016 QB draft class wont even be the best QB class this decade

[swiper]

The original post has to be a joke.

[Bill Cody]

This post is a ******

[WagonCircler]

This post is a ******

I imagine this in Borat's voice.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

No, there ain't even a Ken Obrien in this draft. The best is an Eason

[Ingtar33]

For the past few years the top QBs are usually consistently the best QBs in college during their tenure. This is the first year that you have 4-5 QBs going in the 2nd to 5th rounds that at some point in there career could of been 1st round picks. You look at Hackenburg with not much talent yet playing big time teams and ran a pro style offense. You have Cook who was a top QB prospect the last few years than didn't have a talented team last year. Prescott who played for a small school who had to play big time teams. Essentially Mississippi st was like on the longest yard when Crew refers to Appalachia as a warm up game. Yet they became a top team due to Dak. Then you have 11-0 Cardale who made some amazing throws and had a 11-0 record for a powerhouse. Than Paxton who has Jim Kelly like intangibles and looks like possibly the most gifted QB since Newton\Luck is considered the 3rd best QB in the draft. I have to ask why is there so many people saying this was a bad QB class? Remember Wilson, Luck and Newton are the only elite QBs to come out in the past few years

nope. there probably wasn't even one starting QB in this draft. This will be much closer to the Carr-Harrington draft

The only draft that was close to the '83 draft was the 2004 draft with Roethlisberger, Rivers and Manning.

[The Jokeman]

How would you like to have been the scout that told KC Blackledge was the 2nd best QB that year?

and the question is had KC took Kelly instead who do the Bills end up with?

[Albany,n.y.]

nope. there probably wasn't even one starting QB in this draft. This will be much closer to the Carr-Harrington draft

The only draft that was close to the '83 draft was the 2004 draft with Roethlisberger, Rivers and Manning.

Wasn't there another QB drafted in the 1st round in 2004? I remember the days when people around here were saying he was better than Eli Manning.

[Night Train]

I don't care about the QB's outside of ours.

I care that 3-4 guys from our draft become quality players.

[Ingtar33]

Wasn't there another QB drafted in the 1st round in 2004? I remember the days when people around here were saying he was better than Eli Manning.

haha, I want to know who was such a homer they thought JP Losman was on par with Eli? My money was on Ben being the best QB of the top three, but they've all had such fantastic careers its one of those rare drafts where you really weren't wrong no matter who you hitched your wagon to (unless you were the bills of course who actually traded back into the first round to draft that mess JPL)

[YardRat]

and the question is had KC took Kelly instead who do the Bills end up with?

Marino.

[Ginger Vitis]

This will be much closer to the Carr-Harrington draft



And Patrick Ramsey was also a 1st rounder in that 2002 draft

[Mace]

It's sort of the same as it always is when you scroll through the last couple hundred qb's drafted in 2 decades. A really small number pan out.

Same link as always : http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=1936&year_max=2016&type=&round_min=1&round_max=30&slot_min=1&slot_max=500&league_id=&team_id=&pos=QB&college_id=all&conference=any&show=all

[Mace]

Marino.

Heh, I really think I remember they wanted Eason.

[Ginger Vitis]

The Patriots who picked one spot behind Buffalo @15 wanted Jim Kelly and when the Bills took Kelly the pats went with Tony Eason.. Ron Meyer who was the coach of the Patriots at the time never wanted Eason.. Meyer thought Eason was too skinny and frail... The Patriots front office made personnel decisions without taking Meyers opinions into account and ignored Meyers misgivings about Eason

[YardRat]

Heh, I really think I remember they wanted Eason.

He was there for them if they wanted him.

The truly amazing thing about that draft is Buffalo coveted a TE over any of the QB's, except for maybe Elway and Blackledge who ended up going before they plucked Hunter at #12.

[Albany,n.y.]

He was there for them if they wanted him.

The truly amazing thing about that draft is Buffalo coveted a TE over any of the QB's, except for maybe Elway and Blackledge who ended up going before they plucked Hunter at #12.

They knew they could sign the TE. That TE was so special Kelly named his only son after him.

[stuckincincy]

He was there for them if they wanted him.

The truly amazing thing about that draft is Buffalo coveted a TE over any of the QB's, except for maybe Elway and Blackledge who ended up going before they plucked Hunter at #12.

They have drafted a lot of TE's through the years, and was left scratching my head as to how they could consistently swing - and miss:

http://www.fantasyfootballchallenge.com/32-4-4/buffalo-bills-tight-ends.html

[Mace]

He was there for them if they wanted him.

No, I mean if Kelly wasn't there, they wanted Eason. I think I remember reading that long ago.

[mdcas22]

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NAME
POS
SCHOOL
ROUND
PK(OVR)
TEAM


John Elway (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18666/draftyear/1983)
QB
Stanford (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2416/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
1(1)
Indianapolis (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/ind/draftyear/1983)


Todd Blackledge (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18672/draftyear/1983)
QB
Penn State (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2350/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
7(7)
Kansas City (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/kan/draftyear/1983)


Jim Kelly (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18679/draftyear/1983)
QB
Miami (FL) (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2289/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
14(14)
Buffalo (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/buf/draftyear/1983)


Tony Eason (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18680/draftyear/1983)
QB
Illinois (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2216/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
15(15)
New England (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/nwe/draftyear/1983)


Ken O'Brien (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18689/draftyear/1983)
QB
UC Davis (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2121/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
24(24)
NY Jets (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/nyj/draftyear/1983)


Dan Marino (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18692/draftyear/1983)
QB
Pittsburgh (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2352/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
27(27)
Miami (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/mia/draftyear/1983)


Jeff Christensen (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18802/draftyear/1983)
QB
Eastern Illinois (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2159/draftyear/1983)
5 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/5/draftyear/1983)
25(137)
Cincinnati (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/cin/draftyear/1983)


Reggie Collier (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18827/draftyear/1983)
QB
Southern Miss (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2412/draftyear/1983)
6 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/6/draftyear/1983)
22(162)
Dallas (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/dal/draftyear/1983)


Babe Laufenberg (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18833/draftyear/1983)
QB
Indiana (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2218/draftyear/1983)
6 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/6/draftyear/1983)
28(168)
Washington (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/was/draftyear/1983)


Gary Kubiak (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18862/draftyear/1983)
QB
Texas A&M (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2434/draftyear/1983)
8 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/8/draftyear/1983)
1(197)
Denver (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/den/draftyear/1983)


Tom Ramsey (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18932/draftyear/1983)
QB
UCLA (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2449/draftyear/1983)
10 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/10/draftyear/1983)
16(267)
New England (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/nwe/draftyear/1983)


Bruce Mathison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18937/draftyear/1983)
QB
Nebraska (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2319/draftyear/1983)
10 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/10/draftyear/1983)
21(272)
San Diego (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/sdg/draftyear/1983)


Jim Bob Taylor (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18945/draftyear/1983)
QB
Georgia Tech (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2189/draftyear/1983)
11 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/11/draftyear/1983)
1(280)
Indianapolis (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/ind/draftyear/1983)


Clete Casper (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18976/draftyear/1983)
QB
Washington State (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2471/draftyear/1983)
12 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/12/draftyear/1983)
4(311)
Los Angeles (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/la/draftyear/1983)


David Mangrum (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18977/draftyear/1983)
QB
Baylor (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2085/draftyear/1983)
12 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/12/draftyear/1983)
5(312)
Philadelphia (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/phi/draftyear/1983)


Scott Lindquist (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18998/draftyear/1983)
QB
Northern Arizona (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2333/draftyear/1983)
12 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/12/draftyear/1983)
26(333)
Oakland (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/oak/draftyear/1983)

</tbody>
</body>

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NAME
POS
SCHOOL
ROUND
PK(OVR)
TEAM


John Elway (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18666/draftyear/1983)
QB
Stanford (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2416/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
1(1)
Indianapolis (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/ind/draftyear/1983)


Todd Blackledge (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18672/draftyear/1983)
QB
Penn State (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2350/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
7(7)
Kansas City (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/kan/draftyear/1983)


Jim Kelly (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18679/draftyear/1983)
QB
Miami (FL) (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2289/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
14(14)
Buffalo (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/buf/draftyear/1983)


Tony Eason (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18680/draftyear/1983)
QB
Illinois (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2216/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
15(15)
New England (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/nwe/draftyear/1983)


Ken O'Brien (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18689/draftyear/1983)
QB
UC Davis (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2121/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
24(24)
NY Jets (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/nyj/draftyear/1983)


Dan Marino (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18692/draftyear/1983)
QB
Pittsburgh (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2352/draftyear/1983)
1 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/1/draftyear/1983)
27(27)
Miami (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/mia/draftyear/1983)


Jeff Christensen (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18802/draftyear/1983)
QB
Eastern Illinois (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2159/draftyear/1983)
5 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/5/draftyear/1983)
25(137)
Cincinnati (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/cin/draftyear/1983)


Reggie Collier (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18827/draftyear/1983)
QB
Southern Miss (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2412/draftyear/1983)
6 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/6/draftyear/1983)
22(162)
Dallas (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/dal/draftyear/1983)


Babe Laufenberg (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18833/draftyear/1983)
QB
Indiana (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2218/draftyear/1983)
6 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/6/draftyear/1983)
28(168)
Washington (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/was/draftyear/1983)


Gary Kubiak (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18862/draftyear/1983)
QB
Texas A&M (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2434/draftyear/1983)
8 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/8/draftyear/1983)
1(197)
Denver (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/den/draftyear/1983)


Tom Ramsey (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18932/draftyear/1983)
QB
UCLA (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2449/draftyear/1983)
10 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/10/draftyear/1983)
16(267)
New England (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/nwe/draftyear/1983)


Bruce Mathison (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18937/draftyear/1983)
QB
Nebraska (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2319/draftyear/1983)
10 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/10/draftyear/1983)
21(272)
San Diego (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/sdg/draftyear/1983)


Jim Bob Taylor (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18945/draftyear/1983)
QB
Georgia Tech (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2189/draftyear/1983)
11 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/11/draftyear/1983)
1(280)
Indianapolis (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/ind/draftyear/1983)


Clete Casper (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18976/draftyear/1983)
QB
Washington State (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2471/draftyear/1983)
12 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/12/draftyear/1983)
4(311)
Los Angeles (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/la/draftyear/1983)


David Mangrum (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18977/draftyear/1983)
QB
Baylor (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2085/draftyear/1983)
12 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/12/draftyear/1983)
5(312)
Philadelphia (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/phi/draftyear/1983)


Scott Lindquist (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/player/_/id/18998/draftyear/1983)
QB
Northern Arizona (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/school/_/id/2333/draftyear/1983)
12 (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/round/_/round/12/draftyear/1983)
26(333)
Oakland (http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/team/_/team/oak/draftyear/1983)

</tbody>


as you can see there were 6 qb's taking in the 1st round I don't see how you compare isn't even close.