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  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    Sign Dwight Freeney



    This team can use some vet leadership, and more than that, outside of Jerry Hughes we don't have any proven pass rushers.

    Freeney would be a 3rd down specialist as he was with the Cards successfully.
  • sukie
    Seriously?
    • Sep 2012
    • 21531

    #2
    Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

    Isn't he like 70 in football years?

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    • Pinkerton Security
      Pinkerton's son
      • Feb 2006
      • 6003

      #3
      Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

      One-trick pony who has always been poor against the run - only way I'd sign him is bringing him in at the vet minimum, he isn't worth any more than that.

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      • Forward_Lateral
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 29897

        #4
        Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

        No.

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117

          #5
          Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

          We drafted this guy named Shaq Lawson to play outside.

          Can he play RT ?
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          • MitchMurrayDowntown
            Skoobasaurus-Rex
            • Oct 2011
            • 22284

            #6
            Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

            This seems redundant / we just drafted for that position, so where's the logic ?

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            • Swiper
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2010
              • 33105

              #7
              Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

              All these vested veterans used to have the owners by their balls when free agency first started. It's been around long enough that the owners have adapted to it. Pre-1988 (or whenever it started) you used to have all these players (I remember Reuben Gant *****ing about Ralph Wilson) complaining that they couldn't shop themselves around.

              Now, the owners have this put in this salary cap. Nothing the union can do about it. So all those > 30 year old vets that aren't truly stars just get deleted for younger cheaper kids at a rate much faster than before.

              Freeney is a good example.
              Last edited by swiper; 05-12-2016, 05:03 PM.

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              • Thurmal
                Registered User
                • Oct 2005
                • 2412

                #8
                Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                The "vet leadership" argument is an interesting one. I thought the team really missed that last year. Obviously Karlos Williams and Mike Gillislee were more productive than Freddy could've been, but I really think the team missed him as a stalwart from a character standpoint.
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                • Mace
                  Haha...yeah you think so ?
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 20315

                  #9
                  Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                  Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                  All these vested veterans used to have the owners by their balls when free agency first started. It's been around long enough that the owners have adapted to it. Pre-1988 (or whenever it started) you used to have all these players (I remember Reuben Gant *****ing about Ralph Wilson) complaining that they couldn't shop themselves around.

                  Now, the owners have this put in this salary cap. Nothing the union can do about it. So all those > 30 year old vets that aren't truly stars just get deleted for younger cheaper kids at a rate much faster than before.

                  Freeney is a good example.
                  Dunno. To me Freeney is a good example of being a 36 year pro football player who has to run around a lot, absorb a lot of contact, give a lot of contact, and doesn't add much. I'd pass because we have younger guys we need to do it, and I don't see Freeney being the situational rotation who takes us to the promised land. There are still places I can truly see him ending up, and think he will, but I'd pass on him here.

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                  • Mahdi
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 10585

                    #10
                    Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                    Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                    This seems redundant / we just drafted for that position, so where's the logic ?
                    The logic is that we have only one proven pass rusher.

                    Can you imagine an injury to Hughes? Also having a vet pass rusher like Freeney who can teach the young guys and add some pressure on third downs is a nice bonus.

                    Demarcus Ware played a huge role for Denver last year even though Miller was the star.

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                    • YardRat
                      Well, lookie here...
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 86288

                      #11
                      Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                      If we're going to add vet depth at this point I'd prefer it be at a position that needs it worse than the front seven on defense, like oline or safety.
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                      • DraftBoy
                        Administrator
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 107442

                        #12
                        Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                        Move would make no sense. He doesn't fit the system, he's lost a lot of his speed, and he plays the same position as Hughes.

                        In Rex's system the strong side DE opposite Hughes has to set the edge and maintain his rush lane regardless of the obvious situation. Freeney is an upfield rusher who does the exact thing that Bart Scott just mentioned the defense doesn't need or want.

                        I get the leadership example but this would be a bad signing for our scheme.
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                        • Mahdi
                          Registered User
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 10585

                          #13
                          Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                          Move would make no sense. He doesn't fit the system, he's lost a lot of his speed, and he plays the same position as Hughes.

                          In Rex's system the strong side DE opposite Hughes has to set the edge and maintain his rush lane regardless of the obvious situation. Freeney is an upfield rusher who does the exact thing that Bart Scott just mentioned the defense doesn't need or want.

                          I get the leadership example but this would be a bad signing for our scheme.
                          He's a good character guy that will do what's asked and on third down can be schemed up to rush the passer. Mario wasn't a fit because he wanted to do it his way.

                          Freeney played for the Cards who also have a similar system to Rex. They also scheme up their blitzes.

                          At the end of the day you need good pass rushers and we are very short in that department. Even if Lawson comes out and plays well early you need another player that can get to the QB off the edge to spell others and in case of injury.

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                          • Swiper
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 33105

                            #14
                            Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                            Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                            He's a good character guy that will do what's asked and on third down can be schemed up to rush the passer. Mario wasn't a fit because he wanted to do it his way.

                            Freeney played for the Cards who also have a similar system to Rex. They also scheme up their blitzes.

                            At the end of the day you need good pass rushers and we are very short in that department. Even if Lawson comes out and plays well early you need another player that can get to the QB off the edge to spell others and in case of injury.
                            This post is all wrong. As are most of this poster's gibberish.

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                            • Pinkerton Security
                              Pinkerton's son
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 6003

                              #15
                              Re: Sign Dwight Freeney

                              Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                              The logic is that we have only one proven pass rusher.

                              Can you imagine an injury to Hughes? Also having a vet pass rusher like Freeney who can teach the young guys and add some pressure on third downs is a nice bonus.

                              Demarcus Ware played a huge role for Denver last year even though Miller was the star.
                              Demarcus was still playing at a fairly high level, I dont think Freeney is even close to him.

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