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  • mdcas22
    the mouth of the south
    • Aug 2015
    • 586

    REX AT IT AGAIN

    Rex Ryan claims Jets tried to trade for Odell Beckham when he was dealing with hamstring issue

    Posted by Mike Florio on May 21, 2016, 3:17 PM EDT
    AP
    It’s been a bad week for the Buffalo Bills, bad enough to get SI.com to send Don Banks to Western New York with questions about the rash of adversity.
    Along the way, Bills coach Rex Ryan blurted out something that seems a little far-fetched on its face — and could be a borderline violation of the tampering rules.
    “Has he missed a little time?” Ryan said regarding the notion that 2014 first-round wideout Sammy Watkins is injury prone. “Yeah. Big deal. He and everyone else. [Odell] Beckham kid came out the same year, and he missed how many games with a hamstring issue? Believe me, I was trying to trade for him [with the Jets] when he had the hamstring. I was reading the [New York] papers, and I was like, ‘Well, hell, we’ll take him.'”
    Beckham missed four regular-season games to start his career, but then racked up 1,305 receiving yards and 12 touchdowns in only 12 games. Still, Beckham’s lack of availability prompted comments of concern from former Giants coach Tom Coughlin. Those remarks likely caught Ryan’s ear.
    By 2014, however, Ryan’s wings had been clipped, with G.M. John Idzik firmly in charge of the roster and Rex coaching whomever Idzik gave him. Moreover, the fact that no word of a potential trade of Beckham was leaked to the ever-swarming New York media suggests that there was no effort to pull off a cross-town swap — especially since news of a desire by the Jets to trade into the top 10 to select Beckham made its way to the media before the draft.
    Meanwhile, it’s hard not to wonder whether Ryan’s comments about Beckham are aimed at pointing out that, while Ryan was still with the Jets, Bills G.M. Doug Whaley screwed the pooch by trading up from No. 9 to No. 4 to get Watkins when Whaley and the Bills could have stayed where they were and gotten Beckham, who to date has performed better than Watkins. With both Whaley and Ryan reportedly on an playoffs-or-step-off mandate for 2016, it makes sense to always be looking for any proof of one guy trying to pin the blame for the team’s struggles on the other guy.


  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86147

    #2
    Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

    Meh. I want the guy gone as much as anybody but I don't see how pursuing a trade is borderline tampering.
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    • Mace
      Haha...yeah you think so ?
      • Mar 2013
      • 20314

      #3
      Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

      I don't see any borderline tampering, and I don't grasp why Ryan would think another team would trade their first round pick because he had a bad hamstring in his rookie year.

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      • Scumbag College
        Registered User
        • Oct 2002
        • 4949

        #4
        Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

        I'm going to start the rumor right now that the Pegulas are already in negotiations with Rex and Rob Ryan to extend their contracts thru 2024.
        Remember Kevin Everett in your thoughts.

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        • feldspar
          Registered User
          • Mar 2007
          • 13620

          #5
          Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

          Wow, anything to fabricate controversy...and it's the media I'm talking about.

          Talk about a non-issue.

          Where's the bad thing here, exactly?

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          • stuckincincy
            Buffalo Bills Fan
            • Sep 2003
            • 15084

            #6
            Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

            Originally posted by feldspar View Post
            Wow, anything to fabricate controversy...and it's the media I'm talking about.

            Talk about a non-issue.

            Where's the bad thing here, exactly?
            The NFL is in the doldrums until camp starts...
            Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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            • feldspar
              Registered User
              • Mar 2007
              • 13620

              #7
              Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

              Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
              The NFL is in the doldrums until camp starts...
              So what's their excuse the rest of the time?

              These manufactured headlines aren't exclusive to downtime by any stretch to the imagination. There are always legions of idiots to bite, and I find this sensationalist "journalism" very annoying. Create a story were there isn't one. Also, contrive a misleading headline that makes users want to click it as often as possible...the whole thing isn't even honest anymore, generally.

              Has Rex Ryan said some stupid things in the past? Yes, even he knows that. He'll probably even do it again. But now it's reached the point where people want to nitpick everything he says every time he opens his mouth...to twist soundbytes out of context in ways that generate mouse-clicks, however innocuous what was actually said. The stereotype has been set, and the so-called journalists ride with it not because it's truthful, but because it's good for their careers or whatever. Then somebody says " oh look, Rex is at it again," and the shoddy article writer wins the scam.

              Who needs context when we have a picture in our brain? Who needs to think critically, for that matter?

              I'm not just talking about this story either. No matter what you think of Rex Ryan, what I've described is a thing that happens...and it happens often.
              Last edited by feldspar; 05-21-2016, 09:19 PM.

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              • stuckincincy
                Buffalo Bills Fan
                • Sep 2003
                • 15084

                #8
                Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                So what's their excuse the rest of the time?

                These manufactured headlines aren't exclusive to downtime by any stretch to the imagination. There are always legions of idiots to bite, and I find this sensationalist "journalism" very annoying. Create a story were there isn't one. Also, contrive a misleading headline that makes users want to click it as often as possible...the whole thing isn't even honest anymore, generally.

                Has Rex Ryan said some stupid things in the past? Yes, even he knows that. He'll probably even do it again. But now it's reached the point where people want to nitpick everything he says every time he opens his mouth...to twist soundbytes out of context in ways that generate mouse-clicks however innocuous what was actually said. The stereotype has been set, and they ride with it not because it's truthful, but because it's good for their careers or whatever.

                I'm not just talking about this story either. No matter what you think of Rex Ryan, what I've described is a thing that happens...and it happens often.
                Huh?

                I was making a simple observation about a slow time in the NFL calendar. Why the rant? Football is show biz. Walk away at any time...
                Last edited by stuckincincy; 05-21-2016, 09:18 PM.
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                • Mace
                  Haha...yeah you think so ?
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 20314

                  #9
                  Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                  Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                  Has Rex Ryan said some stupid things in the past? Yes, even he knows that. He'll probably even do it again. But now it's reached the point where people want to nitpick everything he says every time he opens his mouth...
                  I think it's reached the point of Mike Rodak not even taking him seriously. When that happens I don't think anyone does anymore. Rodak is no one special, ESPN beat reporter. They aren't nitpicking, they're chuckling. Ryan is to snicker at.

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                  • Swiper
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2010
                    • 33105

                    #10
                    Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                    Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                    Wow, anything to fabricate controversy...and it's the media I'm talking about.

                    Talk about a non-issue.

                    Where's the bad thing here, exactly?
                    It's in the last paragraph of the article. Rex is apparently throwing Whaley under the bus with this statement somehow.

                    Meanwhile, it’s hard not to wonder whether Ryan’s comments about Beckham are aimed at pointing out that, while Ryan was still with the Jets, Bills G.M. Doug Whaley screwed the pooch by trading up from No. 9 to No. 4 to get Watkins when Whaley and the Bills could have stayed where they were and gotten Beckham, who to date has performed better than Watkins. With both Whaley and Ryan reportedly on an playoffs-or-step-off mandate for 2016, it makes sense to always be looking for any proof of one guy trying to pin the blame for the team’s struggles on the other guy.
                    By saying this (if I am reading this the way the author intends) Ryan is reminding everyone how much better Beckham is and how much Whaley over-reached to take the fragile Watkins. IDK. That's how I read it any way. Ryan heaping blame on Whaley. But IDK.

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                    • YardRat
                      Well, lookie here...
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 86147

                      #11
                      Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                      I think some are trying to read into this too much. The Jets had **** at WR at the time, and I'm pretty sure if they had managed to land Sammy in that draft there would have been no thought of trading for Beckham when he was dinged.
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                      • Swiper
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 33105

                        #12
                        Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                        Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                        I think some are trying to read into this too much. The Jets had **** at WR at the time, and I'm pretty sure if they had managed to land Sammy in that draft there would have been no thought of trading for Beckham when he was dinged.
                        The author (with Mike Florio this is not surprising) directs the reader to read too much into it. Really is an example of media over-stepping their bounds and trying to concoct a story that probably isn't really there. Mike Florio does this every day. He is terrible. If CBS is trying to build a product to compete with ESPN, they shouldn't be doing it on the heels of this lawyer turned reporter hack.

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                        • MitchMurrayDowntown
                          Skoobasaurus-Rex
                          • Oct 2011
                          • 22284

                          #13
                          Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                          Rex needs to know when to shut his flap.

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                          • feldspar
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2007
                            • 13620

                            #14
                            Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                            Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                            It's in the last paragraph of the article. Rex is apparently throwing Whaley under the bus with this statement somehow.

                            By saying this (if I am reading this the way the author intends) Ryan is reminding everyone how much better Beckham is and how much Whaley over-reached to take the fragile Watkins. IDK. That's how I read it any way. Ryan heaping blame on Whaley. But IDK.
                            The author's jump in logic is quite astounding.

                            All Rex was talking about was how some people overreact to injuries. There is no hidden meaning or insinuation there at all.

                            Here is the whole quote, which Florio read on the Internet like the rest of us:

                            "The kid (Sammy Watkins) loves to work. This isn’t a china doll situation. The china doll deal is for someone else. All I know is when he’s healthy, you can’t cover him, it’s as simple as that. No cornerback in the league can cover him, and you can quote me on that, and I’ve got video proof of it. The best of the best can’t cover him.

                            "Has he missed a little time? Yeah. Big deal. He and everyone else. The [Odell] Beckham kid came out the same year, and he missed how many games with a hamstring issue? Believe me, I was trying to trade for him [with the Jets] when he had the hamstring. I was reading the [New York] papers, and I was like, ‘Well, hell, we’ll take him.’ But Sammy’s not even going to miss any time. He’s going to be ready to roll when it matters.”

                            Rex Ryan defends Shaq Lawson, says Sammy Watkins is not a “china doll” and talks about trying to trade for Odell Beckham Jr. in New York.


                            Now, do you find fault with that? You'd have to try pretty hard, and project things that aren't there. But as we've seen, it's possible to find fault with just about anything if that's what one sets out to do.
                            Last edited by feldspar; 05-22-2016, 09:04 AM.

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                            • Yasgur's Farm
                              Moderator
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 7091

                              #15
                              Re: REX AT IT AGAIN

                              Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                              Rex needs to know when to shut his flap.
                              Group therapy?

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