Tyrod had more time to throw last year than any other starting QB

[X-Era]

At least as per PFF.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/bills/story/1671762-tyrod-taylor-had-most-time-to-pass-in-nfl

So we were #1 in rushing yards and gave the QB more time to throw than any other team...

Then why are there still complaints about the offensive line?

Where are we deficient? What are your expectations?

[YardRat]

I'd like to see the actual numbers behind that 'study'...I'm guessing it revolves around pass attempts/sacks etc only and doesn't take into account how many times he had to quickly tuck and run to avoid pressure (which is also a reason why #1 rushing isn't as impressive as it sounds).

[TacklingDummy]

At least as per PFF.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/bills/story/1671762-tyrod-taylor-had-most-time-to-pass-in-nfl

So we were #1 in rushing yards and gave the QB more time to throw than any other team...

Then why are there still complaints about the offensive line?

Where are we deficient? What are your expectations?
The offense line overall did a adequate job last year.
It wasn't their fault they had a one read QB that waited too long to throw the ball, making the play break down so he could take off and run.

[YardRat]

That's a good point also...was the offensive line that good, because Tyrod had 'the most time to throw', or was the QB that bad, because he held on to the ball longer than anybody else in the league?

[feldspar]

That's a good point also...was the offensive line that good, because Tyrod had 'the most time to throw', or was the QB that bad, because he held on to the ball longer than anybody else in the league?

It's not black and white like that.

Sometimes he held onto the ball too long, but he seems to be very good at scrambling to buy more time in instinctual ways. They don't call him "T-Mobile" to advertise phones.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

That's not saying Taylor had the most time to throw, it's saying he took the most time to throw. Part of that is on our OL playing adequately (I'd say that's a fair description), part of that is Taylor buying time in the pocket, and part of that is Roman running a lot of slow burning pass plays with play action fakes and/or deep double-move routes.

[Ingtar33]

a lot of that was thanks to the max protect and deep drops we ran a lot of time for the deep ball offense, some of it was due to a scrambling QB; some of it was the light "containing rushes" some of the teams we played used.

Remember, Michael Vick often would top the league in this same number, it had little to nothing to do with the quality of the line he was playing behind.

from what I saw last year our RT was basically a turnstile for about half the games we played, other then that the pass protection was merely average.

[Figster]

It's not black and white like that.

Sometimes he held onto the ball too long, but he seems to be very good at scrambling to buy more time in instinctual ways. They don't call him "T-Mobile" to advertise phones.

If anyone watched Taylor play common sense would tell you his scrambling ability is the biggest reason why time to throw is inflated.

I'll bet everyone enjoyed the long balls to Watkins on Taylors 1st read,

good grief...

[Turf]

I think the stats show that Tyrod's best passing numbers are with two wideouts. When he's in running formation or the threat of a run is there, it benefits him. When the other team knows he has to pass with 4 wideouts, he isn't that good. And therein lies the problem.

[Turf]

The other unaddressed issue is that Rex hasn't figured out the no huddle offense has killed our defense. Remember this post in October.

[DraftBoy]

Another one of the issues with PFF and how they are trying to invent new content. This measure is quite flawed and trying to determine much is impossible.

[Victor7]

Hard to interpret that one. Going on memory alone I don't remember Tyrod being pressured much. That certainly is a plus for our line. Then again you can also argue that Taylor takes too long to throw and that helps that stat or that he buys time with his movement.

Not sure what to read into this one. A repeat performance form the line plus a more confident Taylor would do wonders though. He needs to find the middle of the field more.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

What I want? From Tyrod I want him to stay healthy and show consistency. There were times last year when I was like we have the long term answer at QB, but then there were games where I thought, really? What was he thinking? So I expect him to work on his gamesmanship, and show continued improvement. As for the line, stay healthy and continue building on last year.

[Forward_Lateral]

Do they count his running plays where he takes off as passing plays with pressure, or running plays?

[stuckincincy]

At least as per PFF.

http://www.scout.com/nfl/bills/story/1671762-tyrod-taylor-had-most-time-to-pass-in-nfl

So we were #1 in rushing yards and gave the QB more time to throw than any other team...

Then why are there still complaints about the offensive line?

Where are we deficient? What are your expectations?

Didn't the Fitpatrick-led Bills lead the league in getting a pass off the quickest?

Now, a QB that scoots.

I think there is a common denominator...

[Mace]

Didn't the Fitpatrick-led Bills lead the league in getting a pass off the quickest?

Now, a QB that scoots.

I think there is a common denominator...

I've been trying to avoid that one all offseason. Ambling slowly to the line while behind with the clock ticking after a leisurely huddle, Taylor wiping his hands, linemen getting leisurely into their stance, except for Incognito and McCoy who are looking around trying to figure why no one is in a hurry. If they can't devise a hurry up offense, 2 minute drill or no huddle for contingency, it will make me crazy.

[stuckincincy]

I've been trying to avoid that one all offseason. Ambling slowly to the line while behind with the clock ticking after a leisurely huddle, Taylor wiping his hands, linemen getting leisurely into their stance, except for Incognito and McCoy who are looking around trying to figure why no one is in a hurry. If they can't devise a hurry up offense, 2 minute drill or no huddle for contingency, it will make me crazy.

Perhaps they were trying to chew up the clock before the snap, to chip into time the D would have to be on the field?

After the snap, however - we saw Fitz fling it quick, and now Taylor dancing around. The common denominator that has plagued - an OL that is iffy - good on that play, bad on the next, still pesters.

It's a question for the ages, I suppose, how a club can go so long without getting 5 OLs on the field for more than one season that is, if not super, one without one or more weak sisters.

How can that be? You'd think that at some point, the law of averages would kick in.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

I've been trying to avoid that one all offseason. Ambling slowly to the line while behind with the clock ticking after a leisurely huddle, Taylor wiping his hands, linemen getting leisurely into their stance, except for Incognito and McCoy who are looking around trying to figure why no one is in a hurry. If they can't devise a hurry up offense, 2 minute drill or no huddle for contingency, it will make me crazy.

Oh god, McCoy. Imagine coming from a Chip Kelly offense to that. He must have felt like a cassette in a broken deck playing sloooooow

[stuckincincy]

Oh god, McCoy. Imagine coming from a Chip Kelly offense to that. He must have felt like a cassette in a broken deck playing sloooooow

He had 4 years under the belt at Philly before Kelly showed up.

Then he gets a pie-in-the-sky contract from BUF, in 2015, with $26M guaranteed, and has some sketchy off-field things...that failure to show at a shindig in his honor in Philly rankles.

He played in 12 games, 4.4 average, 895 yards, 3 touchdowns. The ROI is pretty poor so far.

I didn't like BUF drafting a RB in the 5th - passing on an OL prospect - but I'm thinking that they were thinking that there might be problems on the horizon.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

He had 4 years under the belt at Philly before Kelly showed up.

Then he gets a pie-in-the-sky contract from BUF, in 2015, with $26M guaranteed, and has some sketchy off-field things...that failure to show at a shindig in his honor in Philly rankles.

He played in 12 games, 4.4 average, 895 yards, 3 touchdowns. The ROI is pretty poor so far.

I didn't like BUF drafting a RB in the 5th - passing on an OL prospect - but I'm thinking that they were thinking that there might be problems on the horizon.

I'm aware of all that, and I agree that we overpaid for him. I was just pointing out how going from the league's fastest offense to the slowest must feel for him. Kelly can run two plays before Roman gets the call in once.

[Gilly]

I didn't like BUF drafting a RB in the 5th - passing on an OL prospect - but I'm thinking that they were thinking that there might be problems on the horizon.

or that they thought there was a pretty good RB to take with the pick so they took it..

[swiper]

Remember when folks talked about 10th rounders making final cuts?

[stuckincincy]

or that they thought there was a pretty good RB to take with the pick so they took it..

Yes - that's possible - nothing wrong with taking a chance. Just unusual for a club that forked over big $ for McCoy and one with an OL in seemingly constant flux for many years. I guess they looked at Jonathan Williams as a "value pick."

And it may end up being a good one.

[stuckincincy]

I'm aware of all that, and I agree that we overpaid for him. I was just pointing out how going from the league's fastest offense to the slowest must feel for him. Kelly can run two plays before Roman gets the call in once.

Some of that may be due to Taylor's inability to process defenses at last year's stage of his career. He sat behind Flacco, so that's part of it. Got handed a starting role with BUF., and IMO, did the best he could.
It remains to be seen if he is to be an "answer" to the long-time QB search.

His numbers were pretty good last year, and we have gone round and round about him and his play.

I guess we will see what he does this coming season. I still don't understand why they chose Aaron Williams over Dalton in the 2011 draft. CIN did everything but put up billboards on the interstate routes re their desire - why didn't BUF's FO pick up on that, ask themselves why CIN was so hot on him, and make the call?