pre draft rumors

[chernobylwraiths]

Heard a doozie yesterday from my daughter's boyfriend.

Buffalo to Edmonton: Girgensens, Ennis, Pysk and the 8th overall, + 4th rounder
Edmonton to Buffalo: Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Reinhart, 4th overall

Ha. I told him never going to happen. I would be elated if that were to happen, but that would be giving up too much for Edmonton.

Let's have some fun and post some rumors if you hear them.

[Ginger Vitis]

I don't believe there is any merit to that rumour simply because it is so lopsided in Buffalos favour

[trapezeus]

Edmonton not moving yakupov is what makes it so hard to believe to be remotely true. they'll move their producing #1s but they won't move yakupov? might as well through mcdavid into the trade category.

[swiper]

And your letting this guy date your daughter. You should be nervous.

[JATMtheJATM]

I actually heard the same rumor. I dismissed it immediately. But I do believe girgs might be traded.

[chernobylwraiths]

I've seen variations of rumors with Edmonton. Always Pysek, but usually Eberle.

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And your letting this guy date your daughter. You should be nervous.

Ha. He said he heard it from some guy at work who he says has been reliable in the past.

[trapezeus]

didn't we have a guy with a handle "tampabaysomething" who had an in with the sabres? he usually posted interesting stuff that was more or less accurate...we should hound him.

[Dr. Who]

I've looked at various NHL and Sabres boards the last few weeks. I cannot discover where I heard the following admittedly ridiculous scenario, but it supposedly comes from some guy in Finland:

Sabres are going to trade for the rights to negotiate with Stamkos.
Sabres have the inside track to sign Vesey.
Sabres trade Samson (no!) + Pysyk (he may have said McCabe, I can't remember) + #8 to Edmonton for Taylor Hall + #4.
Sabres trade #4 + unnamed assets to Columbus for #3 in order to take Puljujarvi.

[Ginger Vitis]

didn't we have a guy with a handle "tampabaysomething" who had an in with the sabres? he usually posted interesting stuff that was more or less accurate...we should hound him.

I think you're giving Tampa too much credit... he would post info that any Sabres fan could fairly easily assume "Ryan Miller cant wait for the deadline to be over and done with so he doesn't have to worry about where he will be playing " Darcy Regier is on the hot seat"

Even though Skooby is wrong most of the time at least MMD(Skooby) gives players names and specific scenarios " Jairus Byrd will be traded at the draft" "The Bills will sign Kevin Kolb tomorrow"

[JATMtheJATM]

I've looked at various NHL and Sabres boards the last few weeks. I cannot discover where I heard the following admittedly ridiculous scenario, but it supposedly comes from some guy in Finland:

Sabres are going to trade for the rights to negotiate with Stamkos.
Sabres have the inside track to sign Vesey.
Sabres trade Samson (no!) + Pysyk (he may have said McCabe, I can't remember) + #8 to Edmonton for Taylor Hall + #4.
Sabres trade #4 + unnamed assets to Columbus for #3 in order to take Puljujarvi.

Sabres 365 on the Facebook posted that too.

[Dude]

I heard that GMTM is going to trade with the Las Vegas Black Nights for the rights to all their picks in the upcoming expansion draft.

[Ginger Vitis]

Sabres trade Samson (no!) + Pysyk (he may have said McCabe, I can't remember) + #8 to Edmonton for Taylor Hall + #4.
Sabres trade #4 + unnamed assets to Columbus for #3 in order to take Puljujarvi.

As much as I think very highly of Sam Reinhart I don't hate this... Adding Hall and Puljujarvi to play the wing..And still have EIchel.O reilly and Girgensons to play center


And I wouldn't hate it if I'm a Oilers fan... Get Halls salary off the books... McDavid and Reinhart as the Top 2 centres going forward.. Draisatl plays with McDavid... Pysyk could be a decent No.5 defesnemen for them... And likely get one of the top 3 defensive prospects with the No.8 overall pick

[Dr. Who]

Sabres 365 on the Facebook posted that too.

I'm not on Facebook, so I usually miss that sort of thing. I just checked it out. This is his most recent speculation:

The Sabres would be likely offering Tyler Ennis or Zemgus Girgensons along with 2 third round picks and the 2017 first round pick. If the Sabres make the trade happen which is a 50/50 by the way, The odds of them taking Oulun Kärpät's RW Jesse Puljujärvi are very high


Comments were mixed: I do that trade. I'd rather trade Ennis and keep Girgs.

[Dr. Who]

As much as I think very highly of Sam Reinhart I don't hate this... Adding Hall and Puljujarvi to play the wing..And still have EIchel.O reilly and Girgensons to play center


And I wouldn't hate it if I'm a Oilers fan... Get Halls salary off the books... McDavid and Reinhart as the Top 2 centres going forward.. Draisatl plays with McDavid... Pysyk could be a decent No.5 defesnemen for them... And likely get one of the top 3 defensive prospects with the No.8 overall pick

Yes, I can see how it makes sense for both teams. For me, Samson, ROR, Eichel, and Risto are untouchable, but if one of them isn't, it's Samson.
I couldn't pull the trigger, but I won't think GMTM is an idiot if he does.

[WagonCircler]

Heard a doozie yesterday from my daughter's boyfriend.

Buffalo to Edmonton: Girgensens, Ennis, Pysk and the 8th overall, + 4th rounder
Edmonton to Buffalo: Hall, Nugent-Hopkins, Reinhart, 4th overall

Ha. I told him never going to happen. I would be elated if that were to happen, but that would be giving up too much for Edmonton.

Let's have some fun and post some rumors if you hear them.

This is where he got that from--a Facebook page called Sabres Talk 365.

"While reports came out on Friday night indicating that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins could be traded to The Buffalo Sabres this summer,there's been bigger evidence indicating that one name stands out above the rest that the Sabres may be able to acquire Taylor Hall! Yes, Taylor Hall could be dealt in a package deal.
Reports have come out and said that Ryan Nugent-Hopkins is still involved in this trade but names like Hall and D Griffin Reinhart along with the 4th Overall Pick.Edmonton would likely get Zemgus Girgensons, Mark Pysyk, Tyler Ennis, a 2016 3rd rounder and the 8th overall.
This trade once it's potentially approved can be much bigger than the Evander Kane trade that took place nearly 2 years ago!"

[The Jokeman]

Yes, I can see how it makes sense for both teams. For me, Samson, ROR, Eichel, and Risto are untouchable, but if one of them isn't, it's Samson.
I couldn't pull the trigger, but I won't think GMTM is an idiot if he does.

I'd also throw Kane in the untouchables list.

[Dr. Who]

I'd also throw Kane in the untouchables list.

I think Kane is somewhat underrated, actually, and it would take a great deal for me to consider trading him. He's just slightly on the other side of the impossible to trade line for me.

[WagonCircler]

I think Kane is somewhat underrated, actually, and it would take a great deal for me to consider trading him. He's just slightly on the other side of the impossible to trade line for me.

I thought that too. But when you add yet another instance of potentially serious (the "abusive" part) off-ice behavior, this guy is starting to become a ticking time bomb.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/13/nhl-star-put-on-blast-for-allegedly-cheating-on-his-gorgeous-girlfriend-photos/

[Dr. Who]

I thought that too. But when you add yet another instance of potentially serious (the "abusive" part) off-ice behavior, this guy is starting to become a ticking time bomb.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/13/nhl-star-put-on-blast-for-allegedly-cheating-on-his-gorgeous-girlfriend-photos/

I wasn't sure how much credence to give all that. Is it an angry ex just going off -- but I agree, it's concerning.
It's bad that for various reasons, Kane and Zemgus seem to be reducing their trade value.

[WagonCircler]

I wasn't sure how much credence to give all that. Is it an angry ex just going off -- but I agree, it's concerning.
It's bad that for various reasons, Kane and Zemgus seem to be reducing their trade value.


If it was isolated, I wouldn't give it a second thought. But it seems like a bit of a pattern developing. I think it might be wise to deal him now for a player of equal value before he does something to make himself untradeable.

[coastal]

If you're surrounded by drama... the drama is you.

[OpIv37]

I heard Girgs for McDavid straight up.

[coastal]

To Buffalo:

Jordan Eberle
Griffin Reinhart
4th overall - selection Matthew Tkachuck to play on a line with Eichel and Reinhart


To Edmonton:
Zach Bogosian
Mark Pysyk
Zemgus Girgensons
Tyler Ennis
8th overall

[YardRat]

merged

[coastal]

Gay

[swiper]

B Would love to keep Pysyk. He's homegrown. The Sabres have been patient and he can play.

[JATMtheJATM]

I'm not in a rush to trade pysyk either. If the right deal came along, sure. But I wouldn't move him just to move him.

[Ginger Vitis]

According to Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Sun the Oilers offered a winger(Taylor Hall?) to the Sabres for Rasmus Ristolainen and were shot down

[WagonCircler]

According to Jim Matheson of the Edmonton Sun the Oilers offered a winger(Taylor Hall?) to the Sabres for Rasmus Ristolainen and were shot down

Thankfully.

[Ginger Vitis]

Matheson basically is telling Oilers fans getting Ristolainen from the Sabres is a pipe dream and that Ristolainen is untouchable.. Matheson also implies not only is Ristolainen the Sabres No.1 defensemen he will eventually be better than most NHL teams No.1 defensemen

https://twitter.com/NHLbyMatty?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

[ckg927]

Matheson adds that Bogosian was listed with a couple of other D-men as good, "but none is 1st pairing D Oilers so desperately need."

[Ginger Vitis]

Risto would be a Oiler now if the Oilers had taken him 7th overall in 2013 instead of Darnell Nurse

[JATMtheJATM]

Yeah, don't trade risto

[coastal]

To Buffalo:

Jordan Eberle
Griffin Reinhart
4th overall - selection Matthew Tkachuck to play on a line with Eichel and Reinhart


To Edmonton:
Zach Bogosian
Mark Pysyk
Zemgus Girgensons
Tyler Ennis
8th overallits almost like I know what I'm talking about.

http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rumors-blackhawks-buffalo-sabres-edmonton-oilers-and-ducks/2016/06/20/

A Zach Bogosian (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/bogosza01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) for Jordan Eberle (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/e/eberljo01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) has been thrown out there by some, but it might not work for the Oilers.
The Oilers and Sabres do appear to be good trading partners for the No. 4 and No. 8 picks. The Sabres covet Matthew Tkachuk and the Oilers could take Mikhail Sergachev at No. 8, but there is there no guarantee that he’d be there. Tyler Ennis (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/e/ennisty01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-), Zemgus Girgensons (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/girgeze01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) or Mark Pysyk (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/p/pysykma01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) could be involved.

[SpikedLemonade]

Gay

Tebow. Gay!!!

[Skooby]

its almost like I know what I'm talking about.

http://mynhltraderumors.com/nhl-rumors-blackhawks-buffalo-sabres-edmonton-oilers-and-ducks/2016/06/20/

A Zach Bogosian (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/b/bogosza01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) for Jordan Eberle (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/e/eberljo01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) has been thrown out there by some, but it might not work for the Oilers.
The Oilers and Sabres do appear to be good trading partners for the No. 4 and No. 8 picks. The Sabres covet Matthew Tkachuk and the Oilers could take Mikhail Sergachev at No. 8, but there is there no guarantee that he’d be there. Tyler Ennis (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/e/ennisty01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-), Zemgus Girgensons (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/g/girgeze01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) or Mark Pysyk (http://www.hockey-reference.com/players/p/pysykma01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-) could be involved.

You pegged that pretty good but like usual it will be ignored and dismissed here. I do this all the time, warn you boys early and I'm called crazy. Well crazy meet the news wire, enjoy.

[JATMtheJATM]

You pegged that pretty good but like usual it will be ignored and dismissed here. I do this all the time, warn you boys early and I'm called crazy. Well crazy meet the news wire, enjoy.

Buddy, I hate to break up your congratulatory jerk off session, but every commentator and their dog has discussed these trade scenarios. There's no insight here. Just regurgitation.

These rumors with those players have been thrown out there for a few weeks now.

[JATMtheJATM]

Bishop may be traded to the flames.

[The Jokeman]

Bishop may be traded to the flames.

If that happens it could improve Nylander's chances to fall to us as think the TB could use a Dman to develop.

[Skooby]

Buddy, I hate to break up your congratulatory jerk off session, but every commentator and their dog has discussed these trade scenarios. There's no insight here. Just regurgitation.

These rumors with those players have been thrown out there for a few weeks now.

I hate to break it to you, IDGAF.

[JATMtheJATM]

I hate to break it to you, IDGAF.

That's clearly obvious from the dumb **** you routinely post.

But before you praise some lame brain poster for regurgitating a trade rumor that's been floating around for a few weeks, you might wanna do your research

[Skooby]

That's clearly obvious from the dumb **** you routinely post.

But before you praise some lame brain poster for regurgitating a trade rumor that's been floating around for a few weeks, you might wanna do your research

Well the reality of the matter is some of the variables are news to me and most here, some are not. You are clearly a genius that lives for the sport & has a passion about it, I'm just down here in SW FL with flip flops on everyday. Enjoy your brilliance.

[Skooby]

Here's a goal for you:

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/local/report-millionaire-1-percenters-push-swfl-high-on-list-for-income-inequality--35d155bb-aad3-0aac-e05-383869131.html

[coastal]

How bout this...

Murray screws the fans out of their draft day fun again and trades Pysyk, Ennis and the 8th overall to Anaheim for Cam Fowler and the 30th overall?

[Skooby]

How bout this...

Murray screws the fans out of their draft day fun again and trades Pysyk, Ennis and the 8th overall to Anaheim for Cam Fowler and the 30th overall?

Vomit.

[JATMtheJATM]

Well the reality of the matter is some of the variables are news to me and most here, some are not. You are clearly a genius that lives for the sport & has a passion about it, I'm just down here in SW FL with flip flops on everyday. Enjoy your brilliance.

My brilliance is great

[Skooby]

My brilliance is great

LOL.

[coastal]

Vomit.
Why Florida boy?

[Skooby]

Why Florida boy?
Pot meet kettle.

[Dr. Lecter]

Rumor that the Sabres and Ducks are working on a trade.

One report also says it's Fowler with some Sabres names being Pysyk, Zemgus and Ennis,

Do that and then find a place to dump Bogosian and I'll be happy

[JATMtheJATM]

Rumor that the Sabres and Ducks are working on a trade.

One report also says it's Fowler with some Sabres names being Pysyk, Zemgus and Ennis,

Do that and then find a place to dump Bogosian and I'll be happy

I'd really like to hold on to the 8th pick, but fowler.... woof. I saw this rumor too.

[Dr. Lecter]

Fowler and Risto together?

Orgasm time!

[JATMtheJATM]

http://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/breaking-draft-board-in-buffalo-reveals-two-unannounced-trades?ref=jo

Hey take a look at the draft board in buffalo.

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Fowler and Risto together?

Orgasm time!

Sabres insider claims it's girgs and a third for fowler. I'm calling bull****

[Dr. Lecter]

Me too, but if it is I'll be thrilled

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

Me too, but if it is I'll be thrilled

All over Twitter fowler has been traded to three different teams, including one of his pubic hairs for the entire rangers roster.

[Skooby]

Rumor that the Sabres and Ducks are working on a trade.

One report also says it's Fowler with some Sabres names being Pysyk, Zemgus and Ennis,

Do that and then find a place to dump Bogosian and I'll be happy

We've been down that road:

http://sabrestop.com/posts/6612594/could-the-sabres-trade-for-cam-fowler-.html

[coastal]

Rumor that the Sabres and Ducks are working on a trade.

One report also says it's Fowler with some Sabres names being Pysyk, Zemgus and Ennis,

Do that and then find a place to dump Bogosian and I'll be happy
I don't see Bogo or Ennis as realistic parts of this trade because of their cap implications unless we retain salary. I'm thinking Murray isn't going to want to do that because he's going to go after Nash or Stamkos.

I also don't see Pysyk as a part of this due to the Ducks having a log jam at D and the expansion draft looming.

Its the 8th overall for Cam

[JATMtheJATM]

Alot of twitter accounts, some fake, some just "newsbreaking" pages are saying it's a done deal for ennis and the 8th. Do not hold your breath

[JATMtheJATM]

This rumor is swirling now

[Skooby]

This rumor is swirling now
Toilet or reality ?

[Skooby]

They will regroup tomorrow morning, get him Timmy !!

https://mobile.twitter.com/BNHarrington/status/746121390319935488

[coastal]

How about Evander Kane and the 8th overall for Cam Fowler and the 24th and 30th overall.

[DetDannyWilliams]

Paul Hamilton just on Howard Simon show...Sabres might be interested in an American winger or Center to help Eichel. maybe LW Keiffer Bellows (son of NHL player Brian Bellows) or C Clayton Keller might be there at 8

[casdhf]

How about Evander Kane and the 8th overall for Cam Fowler and the 24th and 30th overall. I can't see the Ducks taking on more salary.

[JATMtheJATM]

According to nhl on nbc, it's the habs that are going hardest for fowler.

[Skooby]

According to nhl on nbc, it's the habs that are going hardest for fowler.

Well then they might get him but I'll bet it's the Ducks spreading that crap to spook the other teams.

[JATMtheJATM]

Well then they might get him but I'll bet it's the Ducks spreading that crap to spook the other teams.

Bob McKenzie just tweeted that the sabres don't want to give up the 8th pick for him.

Might happe, but right now, it does look like GMTM is hesitant

[coastal]

Playing harball and Ducks Murray is trying to generate interest elsewhere... the question is how well can Tim Murray predict what other players might give up for Fowler.

[Skooby]

Bob McKenzie just tweeted that the sabres don't want to give up the 8th pick for him.

Might happe, but right now, it does look like GMTM is hesitant

For good reason, maybe the Ducks will take a few 4th's / next years second ?

[JATMtheJATM]

For good reason, maybe the Ducks will take a few 4th's / next years second ?

I saw fowlers analytics. Not that impressive. He would be a upgrade, but not at the cost of 8

[JATMtheJATM]

Rumblings of GMTM trying to trade up to 3 now.

[Skooby]

Rumblings of GMTM trying to trade up to 3 now.

If we could swing this and get Vesey onboard, we'd be in a better spot. What do you think it'll take ? This years 2nd / 4th and next years first ?

[mightysimi]

If we could swing this and get Vesey onboard, we'd be in a better spot. What do you think it'll take ? This years 2nd / 4th and next years first ?

Nhl picks below 2 aren't that good as most there don't have the speed to play in the league. To move up to 3 will take more than that specially with the player that they can get there. I think you would have to include a player and a high pick 2 or 1.

Puljujarvi is big, fast and can score. That is tough to walk away from for just picks.

[JATMtheJATM]

Nhl picks below 2 aren't that good as most there don't have the speed to play in the league. To move up to 3 will take more than that specially with the player that they can get there. I think you would have to include a player and a high pick 2 or 1.

Puljujarvi is big, fast and can score. That is tough to walk away from for just picks.

This years first and MAYBE next year's second at absolute cheapest

[coastal]

I'm down with trading our first this year and next to go and get Puljujarvi

[JATMtheJATM]

Per mike harrington, GMTM talking to edmonton about.... yak. Heard they are only seeking a third for him.

[JATMtheJATM]

Apparently, the ducks were never close to trading fowler. Trade possble, but nothing was close