How do you feel about the Bills these days?

[X-Era]

Are you pleased with the Bills? Pissed? Indifferent? Cautiously optimistic?

I'm cautiously optimistic.


Great RB
Great young WR
Good TE
Good but not great OL
Great DT
Good DL
Great CB's
Good S's
Best QB since Bledsoe and now locked up long term
Resigning our own players
Drafting well
Not afraid to make moves
Good free agent classes

I'm more positive on the Bills than I have been in a very long time. Still not sold on Rex being the guy.

What say you?

[Ginger Vitis]

I don't think the Safetys are good..I don't think the DT is great... Good TE is a bit of a stretch.. Drafting well is a bit of a stretch

[HHURRICANE]

I think the injuries are a lot to overcome. Not having your top two picks from the draft not on the field this year added with both of your starting tackles out is not a positive.

[justasportsfan]

I am more optimistic about the O than the D as long as Tyrod doesnt get injured.

[coastal]

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[YardRat]

Are you pleased with the Bills? Pissed? Indifferent? Cautiously optimistic?
I'm cautiously optimistic.

I'm still pissed we hired a buffoon hauling around his circus buddies instead of a head coach, but I'm hoping I can get over and just laugh about it.
As far as the roster and couple of other aspects mentioned...





Great RB
Great young WR
Good TE
Good but not great OL


None of the above can stay healthy, and there is **** for depth behind them.






Great DT
Good DL


Dareus is really good, maybe great, but KW is long in the tooth and there is nobody else of note unless a couple of rookies or depth guys really step up. The best DLine in the entire league was essentially ruined before the ink was dry on Wrecks' contract.






Great CB's
Good S's



The cornerbacks should be the best unit on the team. Safety is a hot mess...Graham is playing out of position, AW hurt again, still waiting for Duke or Meeks to step up...Blanton may end up being a pleasant surprise out of necessity.





Best QB since Bledsoe and now locked up long term



That isn't saying much, although I'm sincerely hoping Taylor can stay healthy and improve on last season...the former, not too positive, the latter I think he will.





Resigning our own players
Drafting well



Not afraid to make moves
Good free agent classes



I like that we keep some guys, even if Hughes' money is wasted with this defense. The drafts are still TBD...are the players we've drafted really good, or just 'good' based on our lower level of expectation? Don't mind Whaley's aggressiveness, but it's going to have to start paying off with the playoffs or else admit his moves just didn't work. Hate...no, outright ****ing hate...free agency the last two seasons, except for Incognito.

[OpIv37]

I just don't see it.

Somehow, the D needs to improve, and the only talent we added were rookies, two of whom are already injured. I understand why we couldn't keep Mario, but with him gone, Shaq Lawson injured, Manny Lawson injured, Ragland injured- the D we field week 1 isn't even as talented as the D we fielded last year.

They managed to keep the O together but didn't add any talent. I'm not thrilled about WR after Watkins. The OL has no depth.

I have zero confidence in Rex.

It really isn't rocket science: We won 8 games last year. We will need to win 10-11 wins to get a WC. What did this team do to improve enough to win 2-3 more games? I don't see that much improvement.

[TacklingDummy]

The past 16+ years has dragged me down. I care less and less about football. Eventually I think I won't care at all and I will be done with watching sports.

Nothing the Bills have done the past year has made my desire to watch them go up. I will watch but I just don't care anymore.

[Mace]

Are you pleased with the Bills? Pissed? Indifferent? Cautiously optimistic?

I'm cautiously optimistic.


Great RB
Great young WR
Good TE
Good but not great OL
Great DT
Good DL
Great CB's
Good S's
Best QB since Bledsoe and now locked up long term
Resigning our own players
Drafting well
Not afraid to make moves
Good free agent classes

I'm more positive on the Bills than I have been in a very long time. Still not sold on Rex being the guy.

What say you?

Middlin'. They can go either way.

- I liked the vet minimum signings, bang for the buck and clever.

I don't see all your greats or goods. I see a bunch of brittle young guys still trying to work into systems, offense more likely than defensive guru defense to succeed if the QB stays healthy.

- Happy enough Ryan gave his defense its best chance to succeed by doubling down on Ryanish. Will it work ? Doubt it, think his defense is solved, but open to being wrong.

- Resigning Hughes and Incognito was very good, Taylor, sure for now.

- Drafting well ? Not sure where you get this.

They're either on the edge of solid ok, or rebuild again, imho, the middle of those being middlin' which I think most likely.

I'm still excited about the season. Love Bills football.

[mightysimi]

Drafting well ? Not sure where you get this.

2 of the last 3 Defensive player of the year runner up (you could argue that they both should/could have won) both drafted in the second round. Without any of the other draft picks, that is excellent for a team. Also getting Karlos Williams I think in the 5th, although him being a fatty might have been a character flag but either way a ton of production out of him. Cordy glenn is usually in the to 10 in most metrics for LT. I mean, no team hits on them all but that is better than lots of teams. Without putting a ton of work in, over the last few 3-4 drafts I feel we are at least top 10-12 in the league.

[Mace]

Darby and Preston Brown are the only reliable starters drafted to date in 3 years, 2 of 3 this year are out of play. How many other 16 game starters are you seeing that say they're drafting well ? Richardson/Koundjio/Henderson/Miller to work out the line ?

Why do you think they're among the best in the past 3 drafts ?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/play-index/draft-finder.cgi?request=1&year_min=2013&year_max=2016&type=&draft_round_min=1&draft_round_max=30&draft_slot_min=1&draft_slot_max=500&pick_type=overall&league_id=&team_id=buf&pos=qb&pos=rb&pos=wr&pos=te&pos=e&pos=t&pos=g&pos=c&pos=ol&pos=dt&pos=de&pos=dl&pos=ilb&pos=olb&pos=lb&pos=cb&pos=s&pos=db&pos=k&pos=p&college_id=all&conference_id=any&show=all&order_by=default

[Crisis]

The past 16+ years has dragged me down. I care less and less about football. Eventually I think I won't care at all and I will be done with watching sports.

Nothing the Bills have done the past year has made my desire to watch them go up. I will watch but I just don't care anymore.

I'm getting to this point.

I'm way more excited about the Sabres these days, rooting for the Bills has worn me down. Fantasy football keeps me going though.

[mightysimi]

One of them turned into a pretty good rb as well. I'm just saying we have gotten elite level play from rookies which is better then many teams and I would call Watkins a pretty good pick too, regardless if he has missed 3 games. I suppose if 12th best is amung the best is open to interpretation though lol. I feel we have drafted some young, talented, core players over the last several years and we are in good shape moving forward.

[BertSquirtgum]

Bills stink

[stuckincincy]

Are you pleased with the Bills? Pissed? Indifferent? Cautiously optimistic?

I'm cautiously optimistic.

What say you?

As is the case for many a year - I'm in a state of comfortable catalepsy. Nothing they do surprises me.

[Jan Reimers]

The past 16+ years has dragged me down. I care less and less about football. Eventually I think I won't care at all and I will be done with watching sports.

Nothing the Bills have done the past year has made my desire to watch them go up. I will watch but I just don't care anymore.
I'm somewhere near where you are, TD. I'm not nearly as passionate about the Bills as I was when I first joined the Zone. And I don't think it is my advanced age, as I am still an avid sports fan - but the Bills' crushing mediocrity year after year has really dulled my enthusiasm for them. I am still paying for the NFL Sunday Ticket, however, but it may be more about my morbid curiosity to see how many times they can fail, in how many different ways.

[swiper]

Are you pleased with the Bills? Pissed? Indifferent? Cautiously optimistic?

I'm cautiously optimistic.


Great RB
Great young WR
Good TE
Good but not great OL
Great DT
Good DL
Great CB's
Good S's
Best QB since Bledsoe and now locked up long term
Resigning our own players
Drafting well
Not afraid to make moves
Good free agent classes

I'm more positive on the Bills than I have been in a very long time. Still not sold on Rex being the guy.

What say you?

Are you on drugs? This is the most un-inspiring team in 40 years.

Coach sucks.
GM sucks.
Owner is flailing.
QBs are awful.
Rookies are hurt.
WRs are a bunch of nobodies.
OLine is a mess
Expensive TE is always hurt.
McCoy is ok. Let's see him stay on the field.
Preston Brown looked brilliant under Schwarts, looked awful under Ryan.
Hughes went from 10 sack years (2013, 2014) to 5 last year.
Lots of injuries.
Rob Ryan is a fat buffoon.
And Russ Brandon is still around. And the owner likes him!

All perpetuated by the stupid fans that keep buying season tickets for this crap circus.

[swiper]

I'm somewhere near where you are, TD. I'm not nearly as passionate about the Bills as I was when I first joined the Zone. And I don't think it is my advanced age, as I am still an avid sports fan - but the Bills' crushing mediocrity year after year has really dulled my enthusiasm for them. I am still paying for the NFL Sunday Ticket, however, but it may be more about my morbid curiosity to see how many times they can fail, in how many different ways.

It's the make-up of this team that has made you come to feel this way. It's doing it to all of us. I don't want to spend the next ten years waiting while the new owner figures it out.

[sahlensguy]

I want to see good plays. Cardale delivered. I'm happy. :D

[sudzy]

You have a small, running QB behind an OL with no depth. Your star WR can't stay on the field. Your top two draft choices are out for most of the year (if not all of it). Three of you top four OLB are down two week into camp. I have a feeling, it's going to be a long year.

[sahlensguy]

You have a small, running QB behind an OL with no depth. Your star WR can't stay on the field. Your top two draft choices are out for most of the year (if not all of it). Three of you top four OLB are down two week into camp. I have a feeling, it's going to be a long year.

Long years are nothing new, right?

[sudzy]

Long years are nothing new, right?

It's been a long 16 years.

[sahlensguy]

It's been a long 16 years.

What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. :D

[justasportsfan]

I cant get myself to go to camp which is 10 minutes away.

I heard turn out in camp is the least its ever been in years

[TacklingDummy]

I'm getting to this point.

I'm way more excited about the Sabres these days, rooting for the Bills has worn me down. Fantasy football keeps me going though.
Before the strike and losing Empire Network was the last time I watched hockey. Sure I see clips of it on ESPN but I bet you I couldn't name 10 players in the league.

[TacklingDummy]

What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger. :D

It's not just the current 16 year stretch, many of us were fans before the Kelly Era, that was another horrible time.
Then during the Kelly Era we are known for Wide Right, losing a helmet, 4 Super Bowl loses in a row, and now it's the 16 year stretch with very little hope in the forcible future.

It sucks.

On top of that, the last 2 people I seen in my city wearing Bills stuff looked like white trash.

[YardRat]

On top of that, the last 2 people I seen in my city wearing Bills stuff looked like white trash.

You could have at least said 'Hi' to me and Mace...****er.

[sahlensguy]

It's not just the current 16 year stretch, many of us were fans before the Kelly Era, that was another horrible time.
Then during the Kelly Era we are known for Wide Right, losing a helmet, 4 Super Bowl loses in a row, and now it's the 16 year stretch with very little hope in the forcible future.

It sucks.

On top of that, the last 2 people I seen in my city wearing Bills stuff looked like white trash.

Sorry about that. I moved away a long time ago and while I love returning once in a while, for the food, people, architecture, and natural beauty, it does make me sad for the lack of enthusiasm for the team. What once was will not be again and what will be, well who knows, but I'm not dead and will try to enjoy the little nuggets of what is given.

[Mr. Pink]

Sub .500 last place in the AFC east team.

A lot of that is due to the coaching and how undisciplined this team is.

Put a different coach in charge and they're a borderline playoff team. That includes 3 of their last 4 coaches not named Gailey.

[Historian]

The starters looked good last night, and were beating most of the Colts starters, minus thew QB.

Depth is a problem.

11 penalties.

Same assjacks in the front office.

Same old same old.

7-9

[swiper]

The starters looked good last night, and were beating most of the Colts starters, minus thew QB.

Depth is a problem.

11 penalties.

Same assjacks in the front office.

Same old same old.

7-9

So are you looking forward to the season?

[jlgarsh]

Are you on drugs? This is the most un-inspiring team in 40 years.

Coach sucks.
GM sucks.
Owner is flailing.
QBs are awful.
Rookies are hurt.
WRs are a bunch of nobodies.
OLine is a mess
Expensive TE is always hurt.
McCoy is ok. Let's see him stay on the field.
Preston Brown looked brilliant under Schwarts, looked awful under Ryan.
Hughes went from 10 sack years (2013, 2014) to 5 last year.
Lots of injuries.
Rob Ryan is a fat buffoon.
And Russ Brandon is still around. And the owner likes him!

All perpetuated by the stupid fans that keep buying season tickets for this crap circus.

I didn't renew my tickets, and told them I wasn't going to in February (mostly due to keeping Rex, who is a clown). They told me they'd sell fast, and that I was making a mistake due to a huge waiting list, but I was still getting calls to renew until last week...I just feel no enthusiasm this year, for the first time in my life :(

[jlgarsh]

I cant get myself to go to camp which is 10 minutes away.

I heard turn out in camp is the least its ever been in years

This. I'm in Fairport, and don't even feel like going to Fisher...

[Historian]

So are you looking forward to the season?

I'm looking forward to spending quality time with friends.

Beyond that, anything else is a bonus, IMO.

[swiper]

I'm looking forward to spending quality time with friends.

Beyond that, anything else is a bonus, IMO.

Great answer!

[TacklingDummy]

I'm looking forward to spending quality time with friends.

Beyond that, anything else is a bonus, IMO.

I'm looking forward to see what Bills fans can do to outclass themselves this year.

Last year we had the parking lot sex, the guy on fire, and the drunk slamming his head into the truck.

[stuckincincy]

I'm looking forward to see what Bills fans can do to outclass themselves this year.

Last year we had the parking lot sex, the guy on fire, and the drunk slamming his head into the truck.

Nobody fell into a ditch and drowned. Nobody dropped from the stands and injured innocents. Nobody threw rocks at the visiting team's bus. Nobody shinnied across the FG net cable. Nobody mugged a placekicker.

It's all fluffy goodness so far.

[TacklingDummy]

Nobody fell into a ditch and drowned. Nobody fell from the stands. Nobody threw rocks at the visiting team's bus. Nobody shinnied across the FG net cable. Nobody mugged a placekicker.

It's all fluffy goodness so far.

Is there video of this FG thing?

[stuckincincy]

Is there video of this FG thing?

Dunno. I'm pretty sure it was after I left the WNY area - 1978.

The kicker who got the City of Good Neighbors treatment was Booth Lustig:

..."October 16: After the loss, a disconsolate Lusteg walks home from the stadium, only to be attacked on Buffalo’s Delaware Avenue by three men. “They pulled over to the curb and started yelling, ‘You bum’ and cursing me,” Booth said. “One hit me and the other ripped my shirt. It was still broad daylight and people were around, so they jumped back in their car and drove away.”...

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/archive/index.php/t-82451.html

Here is Booth's bio. It's short, but a pretty good read: :chuckle:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Booth_Lusteg

[bleve]

As long as the Pegula's are naive enough to let the likes of Brandon et al recommend a tool like Rex Ryan, then I cannot, I will not, not on a boat, not with a goat, get excited about the upcoming season.

I've got my Bingo cards, and my friends. A couple of hours on Sunday afternoons for a couple of months having a few laughs and a few beers.

[Mace]

I'm looking forward to spending quality time with friends.

Beyond that, anything else is a bonus, IMO.

I had friends once.

I still love football fiercely. When I was a kid I loved following everything, auto racing, whatever olympics, hockey, basketball, baseball, soccer, bowling, golf, tennis, boxing...over the years my attention to most faded away. I still have flickers of interest in baseball & hockey, but my love of football still stays strong.

Whatever happens, I'll be enjoying as much of it as I can, even when I don't.

[stuckincincy]

I had friends once.

I still love football fiercely. When I was a kid I loved following everything, auto racing, whatever olympics, hockey, basketball, baseball, soccer, bowling, golf, tennis, boxing...over the years my attention to most faded away. I still have flickers of interest in baseball & hockey, but my love of football still stays strong.

Whatever happens, I'll be enjoying as much of it as I can, even when I don't.

I am your friend. We merely have syntax disagreements.

[SpikedLemonade]

5-11

[Jan Reimers]

It's the make-up of this team that has made you come to feel this way. It's doing it to all of us. I don't want to spend the next ten years waiting while the new owner figures it out.
At my age, I may not even have ten more years. I never thought after the 1999 season, when we lost the Music City Forward Lateral, that we would go the first 16 years of the new millennium without a playoff game. Or that I might go the rest of my life without seeing us in the playoffs again. It's really depressing.

[sahlensguy]

At my age, I may not even have ten more years. I never thought after the 1999 season, when we lost the Music City Forward Lateral, that we would go the first 16 years of the new millennium without a playoff game. Or that I might go the rest of my life without seeing us in the playoffs again. It's really depressing.

Really?

[justasportsfan]

This. I'm in Fairport, and don't even feel like going to Fisher...

I too live in Fairport ,drive by Fisher and can see the field everyday to work from the 590. Even on workdays, unlike other years, stands look empty.

[SpikedLemonade]

Going to watch the games.

I expect nothing positive.

[Historian]

Is there video of this FG thing?

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14054944_10209780918896807_4188847338092633245_n.jpg?oh=ca24a813389c0c2bff75d0489d45da91&oe=585B8523

[coastal]

Tank baby tank

[Mace]

Tank baby tank

You're overly confident they could do that sufficiently.

[gebobs]

It's a New Era dumpster fire.

[SpikedLemonade]

Tank baby tank

Should they bring in the Renaissance RainmanTM ==> Tim Murray


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RN0DczbPznY

[WagonCircler]

This is the least likable team and management staff the organization has ever had.

I'm rooting for a total collapse, so Pegula cleans house.

[gebobs]

This is the least likable team and management staff the organization has ever had.

I'm rooting for a total collapse, so Pegula cleans house.

Least likable? Come on! There's Dareus and Sammy and Karlos and Shady and EJ and Rex and Rob and Doug...wait, I'm beginning to see your point. Just need the Sabres to unload Kane on them.

[feldspar]

I'm excited to see how things play out exactly, terrible turns of events in the offseason and all.

[sdbillsfan2]

If and when this teams offical sinks this seasion I hope they go fast and painlessly taking the vast majority of OBD with them. Rex Ryan has become the #1 reason for me to dislike this team . After being a loyal fan since 61.....Ive given up hope . Maybe when Ryan and Whaley are gone it will change. Until then my Bils flag will hang upside down in distress in protest.

[X-Era]

No. 4 and 13. I don't think we lose in the Bye week too.

[DesertFox24]

I am not a fan of Rex and this BS with suspensions I think will cost us 2 games.

[bleve]

Even though they're not on the schedule, I think they find a way to lose to KC again.

[Night Train]

​Splendid !

[BertSquirtgum]

The Buffalo Bills are a joke. Hope they're good this year and remove the joke stigma. I don't know how many more ****ty seasons Bills fans can endure.

[sahlensguy]

17 years in and we haven't even hit rock bottom yet.

[The Jokeman]

17 years in and we haven't even hit rock bottom yet.

One could argue that's part of the problem as we might have to hit rock bottom to get an impact draft pick. Yet I an optimistic that this season might be better. Dareus' suspension lessened it a bit though.

[Mace]

One could argue that's part of the problem as we might have to hit rock bottom to get an impact draft pick. Yet I an optimistic that this season might be better. Dareus' suspension lessened it a bit though.

One can also argue they'd blow the "impact" pick or head down the Edmonton Oilers path of perpetual draft position without improvement. Looking over the past drafts to 2010, picks 1-15 in round 1, well, you're better off drafting in crappy positions and having a tuned program ala NE, Seattle, etc.

[sahlensguy]

One could argue that's part of the problem as we might have to hit rock bottom to get an impact draft pick. Yet I an optimistic that this season might be better. Dareus' suspension lessened it a bit though.

If this year is going to be rock bottom, let's hope we bounce right back up.

[feldspar]

If this year is going to be rock bottom, let's hope we bounce right back up.

The Bills aren't even close to hitting rock bottom this year.

[notacon]

The past 16+ years has dragged me down. I care less and less about football. Eventually I think I won't care at all and I will be done with watching sports.

Nothing the Bills have done the past year has made my desire to watch them go up. I will watch but I just don't care anymore.

Take your "16+ years" of getting dragged down and multiply it by 3 in my case.

I've been a Bills fan since 1963...53 years. When I was 8 years old in '63 the AFL was new and fresh and the Bills had a solid team winning AFL championships in 1964 and 1965.

It's been mostly downhill from there.

Sure, we had some good years in the early 90's. But four SB loses is just too much to accept. 17 years of not getting in the playoffs is even worse to bear. I find it harder and harder to have any investment in this franchise. It's like having a child wrecked by drugs or alcohol.

They go into rehab with the promise of coming out a new person, but, inevitably, they fail. Back into the bottle or prescription. It just gets to the point that you really can't give a ****.

Yes, I'll watch every game. Yes, I'll get excited when they show some promise. And, yes, I'll be disappointed when they are shut out of the playoffs once again.

I've been asked on the politics folder on why I don't post here very often.

This is why.

There was always some glimmer of hope that I would see my beloved Bills win a Super Bowl before I die. That prospect is looking dimmer and dimmer as the years tumble on.

[swiper]

I vote to wait to hit rock bottom until they are able to hire a competent GM. Not until then.

[YardRat]

This is the best offensive roster, from a skill set standpoint, that Wrecks has probable ever had in his entire tenure in the NFL. Too bad the genius is completely ****ing over the side of the ball that is allegedly his wheelhouse.

[swiper]

This is the least likable team and management staff the organization has ever had.

I'm rooting for a total collapse, so Pegula cleans house.

Nothing or no one to root for IMO. Worst ever. There was always a Fred Jackson, Joe Cribbs, Jerry Butler, someone to pull for. There is nothing here. Nothing. Team has hit rock bottom. Just like the what Pegula did to the Sabres. Made Darcy get Ville Leino then crapped the bed for three years.

The only difference here, IMO, is the Bills have no one like Tim Murray on board to rebuild it.

Everybody still loves the new owner, but he's more in the dark than Wilson ever was.

[WagonCircler]

The Bills aren't even close to hitting rock bottom this year.

And that's exactly the problem.

This team should be renamed the Buffalo Groundhogs.

Every year it's the same thing. Never good enough to sniff a playoff spot, just good enough to miss the true franchise changing impact players in the draft.

So, bring on the smoke and mirrors. "Look fans, it's T.O.!!!" "Look fans, there's a new owner!" "Look fans, we painted the scoreboard and added some new rest rooms!" "Look fans, it's LeSean McCoy!" "Look fans, it's Rex Ryan--the Donald Trump of the NFL! Say something funny, Rex!" "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"

Face it, this is Brandon ball. There's no point in fielding a playoff team when you can sell $40 MIL sponsorship packages and break season ticket sales records with a group of underachieving morons on the field.

It's all about the party in the parking lot.

Same as it ever was.

Same as it ever was.

[sahlensguy]

It's like having a child wrecked by drugs or alcohol.

They go into rehab with the promise of coming out a new person, but, inevitably, they fail. Back into the bottle or prescription. It just gets to the point that you really can't give a ****.



Maybe like a parent you care a little less, but you never stop loving them.

[swiper]

It's all about the party in the parking lot.


Glad you said it. That's sure what it feels like. There's 80,000 people that want an excuse to party in the parking lot, the hell with the football. Brandon knows it. So they just keep perpetuating the plan. Same as it ever was.

[notacon]

Maybe like a parent you care a little less, but you never stop loving them.

That's the conundrum. You want to give up on them totally, but, you just can't. You still love them and never will stop loving them. That's what makes the pain so much harder to bear.

I always have been, and aways will be a dedicated Bills fan. That is the burden I will cary though the rest of my life.

[sahlensguy]

That's the conundrum. You want to give up on them totally, but, you just can't. You still love them and never will stop loving them. That's what makes the pain so much harder to bear.

I always have been, and aways will be a dedicated Bills fan. That is the burden I will cary though the rest of my life.


I hold it true, whate'er befall;
I feel it when I sorrow most;
'Tis better to have loved and lost
Than never to have loved at all.

Alfred, Lord Tennyson

[WagonCircler]

Glad you said it. That's sure what it feels like. There's 80,000 people that want an excuse to party in the parking lot, the hell with the football. Brandon knows it. So they just keep perpetuating the plan. Same as it ever was.

I lived in Chicago for several years. The party atmosphere around Wrigley, although slightly different than tailgating, is essentially the same. It was all about pre-gaming at the Cubby Bear or Upper Deck or Murphy's, then drinking beer in the sun all day. Nobody really cared if the Cubs won. It was all about Wrigleyville and the party.

The Bills are the Cubs of the NFL, except the Cubs are winning now. I don't see that happening for the Bills. Not until Pegula guts the organization and hires the equivalent of Theo Epstein.

[sahlensguy]

I lived in Chicago for several years. The party atmosphere around Wrigley, although slightly different than tailgating, is essentially the same. It was all about pre-gaming at the Cubby Bear or Upper Deck or Murphy's, then drinking beer in the sun all day. Nobody really cared if the Cubs won. It was all about Wrigleyville and the party.

The Bills are the Cubs of the NFL, except the Cubs are winning now. I don't see that happening for the Bills. Not until Pegula guts the organization and hires the equivalent of Theo Epstein.

Great post Wagon. Needs to be stickied or something.

[sahlensguy]

I lived in Chicago for several years. The party atmosphere around Wrigley, although slightly different than tailgating, is essentially the same. It was all about pre-gaming at the Cubby Bear or Upper Deck or Murphy's, then drinking beer in the sun all day. Nobody really cared if the Cubs won. It was all about Wrigleyville and the party.

The Bills are the Cubs of the NFL, except the Cubs are winning now. I don't see that happening for the Bills. Not until Pegula guts the organization and hires the equivalent of Theo Epstein.

Or a Bill Polian of the salary cap era.

[Historian]

Or a Bill Polian of the salary cap era.

And even when they had the brightest, young GM in the game, they botched that.

They fired him!

Polian should still be here, picking studs.