Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Cash	2016	2017	2018	2019	2020	2021
Age	27	28	29	30	31	32
Signing Bonus	$3.4 million	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
Roster/ Option Bonus	$3.5 million (roster)	$15.5 million (option)	N/A	N/A	N/A	N/A
Salary	$3.6 million	$12 million	$13 million	$13 million	$14 million	$15 million
Annual Cash Pay	$10.5 million	$27.5 million	$13 million (fully gteed if picked up)	$13 million	$14 million	$15 million
Cumulative Cash Pay	$10.5 million	$38 million	$51 million	$64 million	$78 million	$93 million
Potential Dead Money	$9.77 million	$18.35 million	$27.44 million	$10.66 million	$6.88 million	$3.1 million

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2016/8/16/12505676/full-tyrod-taylor-annual-contract-breakdowns

This coming season is critical - if Tyrod's play warrants the Bills to pickup the option in 2017, Tyrod is seeing $15.5 million bonus + $12 million 2017 salary (virtually guaranteed by the option pickup) + $13 million 2018 guaranteed salary.

The Bills can walk away in 2017 for nothing, virtually impossible to walk away in 2018, and to walk away easily in 2019 and beyond.

The tricky scenario for the Bills would be that Tyrod plays good for, say, 6 games and then gets injured to miss the rest of the season, what do you do then 2017?

[gebobs]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

Dollars to donuts he gets cut by the end of the year. This team is going to be 3+ games under 0.500.

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

Dollars to donuts he gets cut by the end of the year. This team is going to be 3+ games under 0.500.

I'll bet a dozen dollars. We have a donut shop here from NOLA. NOLA in Lake Oswego. They deliver.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

The Bills can walk away in 2017 for nothing, virtually impossible to walk away in 2018, and to walk away easily in 2019 and beyond.

$10.66MM in dead cap is certainly nothing to sneeze at. Hopefully it won't matter, though.

The tricky scenario for the Bills would be that Tyrod plays good for, say, 6 games and then gets injured to miss the rest of the season, what do you do then 2017?

It's almost like we should have waited until the end of this year to make an offer to him based on 2 years of work instead of 1, since we could have done that for free. Especially for a small running QBs that historically have a proneness for injury.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

It's almost like we should have waited until the end of this year to make an offer to him based on 2 years of work instead of 1, since we could have done that for free. Especially for a small running QBs that historically have a proneness for injury.

You have to take some gambles in NFL -- in fact, in life as well. If tyrod plays well in 2016, I'm pretty sure you can't get away with a contract on that term (cash up front, i.e. $15.5 bonus, average, $16 per, or guaranty amount). Of course there is the Tyrod not playing well side. So Whaley and company, in their judgement, is betting on the positive side.

[Bill Cody]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

It's almost like we should have waited until the end of this year to make an offer to him based on 2 years of work instead of 1, since we could have done that for free. Especially for a small running QBs that historically have a proneness for injury.

Crazy talk. The Bills like to plan ahead. That's given us the signing of Rob Johnson after 4 games, the drafting of JP Losman after a bad game by Bledsoe, and the extending of Fitz. Now Tie Rod. We have a formula here and we're sticking with it.

[Topas]

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I think it is a good contract for the Bills. As others already said, worst case if he is injured a lot this year and the jury is still out.
The contract ist structured in a way that the Bills can get out. And it is a lot cheaper than the current QB going rate. That is good.

And all these guys saying that we should have waited one more year and just franchised him.
It is not as easy as in Madden. You dont want an unhappy QB. And you would have needed to negotiate a contract prior to the start of the season. And that would have been a lot more expensive than now.
So we showed faith in him. I hope he is pleased with the money and if he is good, we keep him. If not we cut him and it is not that bad a cap hit.
But having a good QB below market rate would be HUGE !!! It is worth the risk we took, in my book.

[Goobylal]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

Dollars to donuts he gets cut by the end of the year. This team is going to be 3+ games under 0.500.

I'll bet you $100 on that prediction.

[Goobylal]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

And the contract is a 1-year $9.5M deal that the Bills can choose to extend an additional 5-years for $82.5M.

[feldspar]

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I'll bet you $100 on that prediction.

That's the spirit.

Seems most of these humps are so sure that the Bills will do significantly poorer than the odds set in gambling circles. If they don't bet, apparently they are missing out on their big chance at easy money.

Why don't they bet?

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

It's a good contract if Tyrod pans out...it's a pretty bad contract if he had a fluke season because teams didn't have tape on him and didn't know how to prepare.

The dude still needs to learn how to throw over the middle of the field though.

[Joe Fo Sho]

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That's the spirit.

Seems most of these humps are so sure that the Bills will do significantly poorer than the odds set in gambling circles. If they don't bet, apparently they are missing out on their big chance at easy money.

Why don't they bet?

I'd be willing to throw down some money on the under for total wins, but I don't have the ability to. I mean, where can I place that bet? I have to fly all the way out to Vegas to do it? That's going to cost me another $5k just in flight, hotel, casino, booze, strippers, etc.

I used to bet online at a shady internet site, but they made it so difficult to get my money back that I'm completely turned off by it. I don't have a local bookie or anything either.

So that's why I personally don't bet it. I wish I could though.

[Joe Fo Sho]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

It's a good contract if Tyrod pans out...it's a pretty bad contract if he had a fluke season because teams didn't have tape on him and didn't know how to prepare.

Which one do you think is a more likely option?

[feldspar]

Re: Tyrod's Contract Break Down (didn't see it posted here)

I'd be willing to throw down some money on the under for total wins, but I don't have the ability to. I mean, where can I place that bet? I have to fly all the way out to Vegas to do it? That's going to cost me another $5k just in flight, hotel, casino, booze, strippers, etc.

I used to bet online at a shady internet site, but they made it so difficult to get my money back that I'm completely turned off by it. I don't have a local bookie or anything either.

So that's why I personally don't bet it. I wish I could though.

I'm not gonna give you any leads, in case you run into trouble somehow and blame me. But, believe you me, there are legit ways to gamble on the Internet.

I have no problem with anybody's opinion when it comes to sports predictions. But I figure they should bet if they're so damn sure. Might be the Vegas in me. Never did give anyone advice on who to bet on there, either. They ask my opinion, that's fine. But you don't bet on anything other than what you feel best about. Grown people make wages, with nobody to hold accountable but themselves.

Bet with your head, and not your heart, though.

How's that for a half-assed lecture?

[OpIv37]

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Those dead cap numbers for 2017 and 2018 are brutal.

If he doesn't work out this season, we will need to find a QB, replace or resign Gilmore, fix all the holes we didn't address this off season plus fix any new holes that arise with $18 million in dead cap alone. Yet people keep insisting that the contract is team friendly....