The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

[The Natrix]

Who knows with these two.

On one hand you have one who's best two career games could be the Carolina game and the Jacksonville loss. On the other you have a QB with 2 preseason games under his belt.

EJ's slow starts are especially worrisome. He has never played a complete game. See Car Jax and today. Cardale seems to come out more football ready at the gate.

I really hope Cardale can step it up next week, because if Tyrod goes down and one of the two that showed up today, shows up, good luck Bills.

[Mace]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

If Taylor goes down, 8-8 is a pipe dream.

Manuel is a more mobile, less accurate Trentative Edwards but Cardale is way too raw imho.

[The Natrix]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

Josh Johnson is currently outplaying both of them.

[justasportsfan]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

I like what Im seeing in Jones

[sahlensguy]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

I like what Im seeing in Jones

IDT, but 17-32 so far isn't going to cut it.

[YardRat]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

Jones certainly isn't lighting it up, but at this point he really isn't expected to. What Jones has in his favor is that he and EJ are basically playing at the same level...the difference is one has three years of experience, the other three months. EJ's already hit his ceiling, it's up to Jones over the next season or two to see if he can rise about that point.

[swiper]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

Jones certainly isn't lighting it up, but at this point he really isn't expected to. What Jones has in his favor is that he and EJ are basically playing at the same level...the difference is one has three years of experience, the other three months. EJ's already hit his ceiling, it's up to Jones over the next season or two to see if he can rise about that point.

As if the Bills don't have enough problems, now if their mobile starting QB goes down the season ends.

[sahlensguy]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

As if the Bills don't have enough problems, now if their mobile starting QB goes down the season ends.

If Tyrod went down and the Bills needed to win ONE game, is go with Jones right now and feel okay about it. If Tyrod went down for three or four game stretch, well that's another story.

Backup qbs are traditionally hold the fort down type of guys. Jones isn't that type and with how porous our D is shaping up to be, our qbs are going to have to light up the board. Jones has that mentality. He just needs to be more accurate. EJ is a fine mentor (accuracy aside).

[Skooby]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

EJ shouldn't even be seeing the field, it's sickening.

[stuckincincy]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

His long passes remind me of Jeff Blake's banana bombs.

[stuckincincy]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

Jones', that is.

[trapezeus]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

the only reason to not play jones ahead of ej is to protect him in his development. the bills did this to ej already. he wasn't ready and they trotted him out there and he is what he is. if cardale shows flashes and can stay off the field for a full year and work in practice and in the film room, he may very well develop the way you want him to. if you trot him out, you will make him EJ/Trent/JP. TT needs to stay healthy, and if he doesn't, you got to send out EJ. you have no expectation of winning with EJ, but you know you aren't ruining another QB. I don't really see this as a playoff year either, so I wouldn't be upset losing games with EJ. but that's me.

[OpIv37]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

No one believes we can win with EJ. We most likely aren't winning with Jones either, at least not yet. So it makes sense to play Jones. My only concern, as trap said, would be putting him out there too soon and shell-shocking him like we did to EJ, Trent, JP and pretty much every other young QB we've gotten our hands on in the last 20 years.

[justasportsfan]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

IDT, but 17-32 so far isn't going to cut it.

I don't expect him to be accurate in preseason especially for a rookie who is a project. It's not like he's pulling a Robosack/Tent dink and dunk either. At least he's decisive and has a laser arm. He doesn't look like a chicken with his head cut off that EJ still does at times when he's in there. I'm also looking at him as back up in the future.

[sahlensguy]

Re: The way to early EJ vs Cardale Debate

I don't expect him to be accurate in preseason especially for a rookie who is a project. It's not like he's pulling a Robosack/Tent dink and dunk either. At least he's decisive and has a laser arm. He doesn't look like a chicken with his head cut off that EJ still does at times when he's in there. I'm also looking at him as back up in the future.

What do I know, but I think accuracy in preseason against scrubs is indicative to what the accuracy will be as his experience increases, and as the level of the opposing defense increases.