58,535 Season Tickets Sold

[Night Train]

Not bad. Down about 1500 from last seasons all-time high.

Go Bills.

[swiper]

What's the stadium currently hold? I remember the old 80,200 or whatever it was when it was Rich Stadium. I thought they lost some seats, IIRC, at one redo of the stadium.

[Goobylal]

What's the stadium currently hold? I remember the old 80,200 or whatever it was when it was Rich Stadium. I thought they lost some seats, IIRC, at one redo of the stadium.

It now holds 71,870.

[swiper]

Seating capacity (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seating_capacity)[edit (https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=New_Era_Field&action=edit&section=6)]

80,020 (1972–1983)[30] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-30)
80,290 (1984–1994)[31] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-31)
80,024 (1995–1998)[32] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-32)
75,339 (1999–2000)[33] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-33)
73,967 (2001–2007)[34] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-34)
73,079 (2008–2013)[35] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-35)
71,857 (2014)[36] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-36)
71,870 (2015)[27] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-facts-27)
71,608 (2016–present)[1] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field#cite_note-lookhistory-1)



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Era_Field

[YardRat]

Good deal. Don't have to cover seats with tarps in Buffalo.

[Mr. Pink]

Don't have to improve the middling mediocre team of the past 16 years when you sell tickets like that.

[stuckincincy]

Don't have to improve the middling mediocre team of the past 16 years when you sell tickets like that.

Been hammering that point for years.

[Goobylal]

Yes because they've intentionally tried not to improve the team. :rolleyes:

[OpIv37]

Don't have to improve the middling mediocre team of the past 16 years when you sell tickets like that.

We got Brandon'd again.

[OpIv37]

Yes because they've intentionally tried not to improve the team. :rolleyes:

Nah, they just take appearance over quality. Under Ralph, they consistently had one of the lowest paid coaching staffs in the league and routinely went into the season well under the salary cap. They'd occasionally pay a dude like Mario Williams or sign a name like TO to get fan interest up without actually spending to improve the team. Under Pegula, paying isn't a problem but they still value attention and the bottom dollar over quality. Exhibit A: Rex Ryan. Decisions are made with marketing and the bottom dollar coming first and winning coming second.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

That's going to be a lot of disappointed dupes. To be fair if I am wrong, I will gladly eat a quadruple helping of crow.

[Goobylal]

Nah, they just take appearance over quality. Under Ralph, they consistently had one of the lowest paid coaching staffs in the league and routinely went into the season well under the salary cap. They'd occasionally pay a dude like Mario Williams or sign a name like TO to get fan interest up without actually spending to improve the team. Under Pegula, paying isn't a problem but they still value attention and the bottom dollar over quality. Exhibit A: Rex Ryan. Decisions are made with marketing and the bottom dollar coming first and winning coming second.

What top coach wants to come to Buffalo?

[YardRat]

What top coach wants to come to Buffalo?

I would tend to think at the time and under the circumstances (new owner with deep pockets, best dline in the league and top 4 defense already in place, only a QB and one or two olinemen away from the playoffs) we could have had our pick of the litter.

[stuckincincy]

I would tend to think at the time and under the circumstances (new owner with deep pockets, best dline in the league and top 4 defense already in place, only a QB and one or two olinemen away from the playoffs) we could have had our pick of the litter.


Best dline in the league? Top 4 defense?

[Goobylal]

I would tend to think at the time and under the circumstances (new owner with deep pockets, best dline in the league and top 4 defense already in place, only a QB and one or two olinemen away from the playoffs) we could have had our pick of the litter.

You mean last year? Like who?

[OpIv37]

What top coach wants to come to Buffalo?

Well, whose fault is that? The FO's. Top coaches know they can't win in a place where winning is secondary to the bottom line. Under Ralph, they went cheap. Under Pegula, they went for the most marketable. Healthy books will always be valued over winning as long as Brandon has a say.

[TacklingDummy]

Suckers.

[Goobylal]

Well, whose fault is that? The FO's. Top coaches know they can't win in a place where winning is secondary to the bottom line. Under Ralph, they went cheap. Under Pegula, they went for the most marketable. Healthy books will always be valued over winning as long as Brandon has a say.

Please. The reason the Bills have struggled is because of the quarterback position and nothing else. As for going for the most marketable guy in Rex, it was either go with an unproven coordinator versus a guy like Rex who had actually taken his team to the AFC championship game twice early in his career. But regardless whether it's Ralph or the Pegulas, no top coach will be come to Buffalo.

[stuckincincy]

Please. The reason the Bills have struggled is because of the quarterback position and nothing else. As for going for the most marketable guy in Rex, it was either go with an unproven coordinator versus a guy like Rex who had actually taken his team to the AFC championship game twice early in his career. But regardless whether it's Ralph or the Pegulas, no top coach will be come to Buffalo.

What?

Nothing else? Stinking OL season after season. Drafting RBs and dumping good RBs on the squad several times. Zany draft day trades. Loseman, Maybin, McCargo. Years of lilliputian LBs. Spent the farm on OL bums like Walker and Dockery. Forked over a kings' ransom to Mario Williams. Keeping two kickers on the roster. Canning Wade Phillips. Canning Bruce Ariens.

That's the short list.

[SpikedLemonade]

Oh so much to do in Buffalo on Sunday afternoons..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZVesNYJUCE

[SpikedLemonade]

AND, of course, I am soooo proud of Buffalo....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=46Ive-dRXVo

[Goobylal]

What?

Nothing else? Stinking OL season after season. Drafting RBs and dumping good RBs on the squad several times. Zany draft day trades. Loseman, Maybin, McCargo. Years of lilliputian LBs. Spent the farm on OL bums like Walker and Dockery. Forked over a kings' ransom to Mario Williams. Keeping two kickers on the roster. Canning Wade Phillips. Canning Bruce Ariens.

That's the short list.

Bruce Arians? As for Wade Phillips, he's been canned a lot since then.

But are you saying these moves were intentionally made to put a bad product on the field because people still went to games? As I said, the main problem with the team has been the lack of a good QB. But that wasn't for lack of trying.

[feldspar]

AND, of course, I am soooo proud of Buffalo....


Why would you ever have pride of a city you never lived in, which is in a country you were never a citizen of? I don't care WHAT city it is...

[SpikedLemonade]

Why would you ever have pride of a city you never lived in, which is in a country you were never a citizen of? I don't care WHAT city it is...

Sarcasm

[ticatfan]

Don't have to improve the middling mediocre team of the past 16 years when you sell tickets like that.They learned that from the leafs.

[feldspar]

Sarcasm

Mine wasn't.

In fact, you should be able to read between the lines of what I posted and interpret the message behind it.

[SpikedLemonade]

Mine wasn't.

In fact, you should be able to read between the lines of what I posted and interpret the message behind it.

No thank you.

Too much work.

Way too busy to do so.

[OpIv37]

Please. The reason the Bills have struggled is because of the quarterback position and nothing else. As for going for the most marketable guy in Rex, it was either go with an unproven coordinator versus a guy like Rex who had actually taken his team to the AFC championship game twice early in his career. But regardless whether it's Ralph or the Pegulas, no top coach will be come to Buffalo.
The problems far transcend QB's.

1. Bad early drafting: Losman, McCargo, Maybin, Lynch, Spiller, EJ, Whitner (you could argue that Spiller and Lynch aren't bad but they are still 1st round picks used on guys not helping the team).
2. Bad FA moves- for most of the last 15 years, they only brought in 3rd and 4th tier guys. When they did spend, it was for jokers like Dockery.
3. Refusing to spend anywhere near the cap
4. Bad contracts leading to dead money- Fitz comes to mind.
5. Bad coaching selections time and time again
6. Drafting for skill positions over the trenches
7. Letting guys walk and not replacing them with someone equal or better.

I could go on but I've made my point. The best QB in the world can't cover all those flaws.

[feldspar]

.
The best QB in the world can't cover all those flaws.

Yes he could.

[Night Train]

Love how a simple post of tickets can turn into yet another self serving agenda opportunity with many of the same performers. LOL

[feldspar]

No thank you.

Too much work.

Way too busy to do so.

Ok, then I'll do the leg-work for you...

What I meant was "**** you."

Have a good one.

[OpIv37]

Love how a simple post of tickets can turn into yet another self serving agenda opportunity with many of the same performers. LOL

Yeah, the problem is the "performers," not the reality that the FO continues to sell us an inferior product.

[Cleve]

The problems far transcend QB's.

1. Bad early drafting: Losman, McCargo, Maybin, Lynch, Spiller, EJ, Whitner (you could argue that Spiller and Lynch aren't bad but they are still 1st round picks used on guys not helping the team).
2. Bad FA moves- for most of the last 15 years, they only brought in 3rd and 4th tier guys. When they did spend, it was for jokers like Dockery.
3. Refusing to spend anywhere near the cap
4. Bad contracts leading to dead money- Fitz comes to mind.
5. Bad coaching selections time and time again
6. Drafting for skill positions over the trenches
7. Letting guys walk and not replacing them with someone equal or better.

I could go on but I've made my point. The best QB in the world can't cover all those flaws.

I would say the team's lack of a good QB is probably the most glaring issue with the team, but as you point out, there are numerous other issues and problems. So many stupid hires, and fires, over the last 20 years..... Can't blame Old Man Wilson for it any more - although he was responsible for a lot of it - the baggage is all T-Peg's now.

[OpIv37]

I would say the team's lack of a good QB is probably the most glaring issue with the team, but as you point out, there are numerous other issues and problems. So many stupid hires, and fires, over the last 20 years..... Can't blame Old Man Wilson for it any more - although he was responsible for a lot of it - the baggage is all T-Peg's now.

It frustrates me that Pegula is making a lot of the same mistakes with the Bills that he made with the Sabres. The Sabres are on the brink of making a run, but it took 3 very painful seasons to get there. I fear the Bills are headed down the same boat.