September 2 Bills cuts

[Dr. Lecter]

Post as they start to come out (These are from Twitter)

So far:

Chris Martin, OT
James Wilder Jr, RB

[Dr. Lecter]

Manny Lawson cut as well according to Schefter

[Pinkerton Security]

Lawson is a little surprising - not a stud by any means but solid role player.

[Buffalogic]

Surprised by Lawson.

[X-Era]

Sterling Moore, Jerome Felton

Must be they want more versatility and Gronk makes it

[Scumbag College]

Lawson is a surprise. Albright makes the team then?

[Forward_Lateral]

Lawson is a huge surprise considering the LB corps isn't exactly stellar.

[X-Era]

Lawson is a huge surprise considering the LB corps isn't exactly stellar.I wonder if they want to scan the wire or make a move here

[feldspar]

Yeah, Manny Lawson getting the axe is extremely surprising to me. Maybe there is something to the reports of a looming suspension? Dunno, but if not this move makes no sense to me.

[Forward_Lateral]

I wonder if they want to scan the wire or make a move here

Unless they have confidence in Lorenzo Alexander? Still, depth is kind of iffy if you ask me

[X-Era]

Yeah, Manny Lawson getting the axe is extremely surprising to me. Maybe there is something to the reports of a looming suspension? Dunno, but if not this move makes no sense to me.
Maybe a combination of things. Suspension coming, saving 2.3 mill in cap, wanting to use the cap to lock up Gilmore, and not as good at special teams

[X-Era]

Randell Johnson cut- PS eligible

I think Bierman and Humber make it... or I'm at a loss with what we want to do at LB

[ghz in pittsburgh]

Lawson's play hasn't been inspiring this summer. Did he come back from injury as well?

[Mace]

Yeah, Manny Lawson getting the axe is extremely surprising to me. Maybe there is something to the reports of a looming suspension? Dunno, but if not this move makes no sense to me.

I don't mind saying this move shocked me. It was only a 1 game suspension. Don't know how it could be performance based, he just came back from injury.

They just booted the only LB/DE who truly understood, bought into and performed as desired for Ryan's system. Remember, he was the one calling defensive signals by the end of the year. Effort guy too. Ryan likes effort guys who reliably perform in his system. Vet depth. Loyal, complained not at all.

Shocks me. To sign him back a little cheaper maybe ?

[X-Era]

Kain Colter released

Felton officially cut- https://twitter.com/jfelton45/status/771741716839854080

[DraftBoy]

Not a huge shock on Felton, I thought he was pretty bad last year as a lead blocker.

Somewhat surprised that Lawson got let go though.

Duke Williams has tweeted that he has made the team.

[Mace]

Lawson's play hasn't been inspiring this summer. Did he come back from injury as well?

He wasn't playing until yesterday, he was injured before camp.

[X-Era]

Randell Johnson being gone means Spikes likely makes it. I was a bit worried he wouldn't but I real glad he did.

[X-Era]

Not a huge shock on Felton, I thought he was pretty bad last year as a lead blocker.

Somewhat surprised that Lawson got let go though.

Duke Williams has tweeted that he has made the team.I like Duke Williams. A fan of how he hits and his style of play

[Dr. Lecter]

Randell Johnson being gone means Spikes likely makes it. I was a bit worried he wouldn't but I real glad he did.

Spikes couldn't cover my mother if she ran a pass pattern

[X-Era]

Spikes couldn't cover my mother if she ran a pass pattern
Your mother has track star speed running from the cops.

[feldspar]

I don't mind saying this move shocked me. It was only a 1 game suspension. Don't know how it could be performance based, he just came back from injury.

They just booted the only LB/DE who truly understood, bought into and performed as desired for Ryan's system. Remember, he was the one calling defensive signals by the end of the year. Effort guy too. Ryan likes effort guys who reliably perform in his system. Vet depth. Loyal, complained not at all.

Shocks me. To sign him back a little cheaper maybe ?

Yeah, well if the suspension seemed like it would be larger than just one game (or whatever) would be the only way this would make a SHRED of sense to me. One game wouldn't do it for me, even if it were true...which I don't see any evidence that it is. They may "save money," but I'm sure there was a cap hit as well...what is it, a million or something?

The guy understands and could plug-and-play in several positions.

I just don't get it because it seems like we need him. It seemed like we were DEPENDING on him.

[X-Era]

TE <nobr>Blake Annen (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/blake-annen/e2d900ab-44cc-4c4b-a8f0-bc1a75a5a903/)</nobr>
OLB Kroy Biermann
WR <nobr>Jarrett Boykin (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/jarrett-boykin/351720fd-6421-4a92-905f-a79c65d8f79a/)</nobr>
CB <nobr>Mario Butler (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/mario-butler/1c9eb76d-449f-4520-937e-b13cf4950f6c/)</nobr>
WR <nobr>Kain Colter (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/kain-colter/98d1cbbd-d5b3-4eda-89aa-681dc1e71778/)</nobr>
DT <nobr>Brandon Deaderick (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/brandon-deaderick/1add4dd8-95f0-4c1a-9b76-429573aa6b10/)</nobr>
DL <nobr>Lavar Edwards (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/lavar-edwards/0e9b2bdd-f466-41b2-b93a-515c718bc153/)</nobr>
FB Jerome Felton
RB <nobr>Boom Herron (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/boom-herron/fa783849-7f31-4365-b793-a128b999cc0f/)</nobr>
LB <nobr>Randell Johnson (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/randell-johnson/4ef37401-f67d-464a-8db0-3e7f64e6c78e/)</nobr>
OLB Manny Lawson
WR Dez Lewis
OL <nobr>Marquis Lucas (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/marquis-lucas/e0e5492f-f3f3-432b-9327-a3a9dff155b1/)</nobr>
OT <nobr>Chris Martin (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/chris-martin/25959d58-b2f1-40f2-91cb-9098965180c0/)</nobr>
CB <nobr>Sterling Moore (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/sterling-moore/f1130fbc-ae69-42d9-bc71-1ee39602b22d/)</nobr>
G <nobr>Cyril Richardson (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/cyril-richardson/88868171-cd3d-44b1-a57c-c961cd89bef1/)</nobr>
CB <nobr>Sammy Seamster (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/sammy-seamster/782633bd-5bd0-4187-8c88-548e766842d4/)</nobr>
OLB <nobr>Max Valles (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/max-valles/2bc138e8-991e-450b-bc52-f9cf281f1c08/)</nobr>
C <nobr>Fernando Velasco (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/fernando-velasco/54a9e45e-41fc-42c9-9fb9-bfa6820f0482/)</nobr>
DT <nobr>Casey Walker (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/casey-walker/9b1f0f0b-a94d-4c5f-9ff7-34d0ee8edbee/)</nobr>
RB James Wilder Jr.

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Vets-Felton-and-Lawson-headline-Bills-cut-to-53/b0a11e11-a608-4a0b-bd73-d04feda60336?platform=hootsuite

[X-Era]

Lewis, Velasco, Bierman all surprise me

Powell and Salas make it

Groy, Lucas, and Renfro make it

O'Leary makes it

Worthy, Walker make it

Seymour makes it

Colt Anderson makes it as does Duke and Meeks

Spikes, Lattimore, and Albright make it

I can see it I guess. I see the brand of player they went after here. Gritty and determined

[Forward_Lateral]

Why cut Dez Lewis. God

[X-Era]

Why cut Dez Lewis. GodPS squad. And don't sleep on a waiver wire bigger WR

[feldspar]

Looks like little Gronkowski has a chance to stick in some capacity, since they cut Felton.

That surprises me a tad.

[Scumbag College]

I could see the Bills still adding WR, OG, TE, DL, LB, and/or S the next few days. I don't think this 53 is written in stone.

[Dr. Lecter]

Renfrow was waived injured last week. he didn't make it

[sukie]

No reality TV in Buffalo with Biermann being cut.... He had a good career.

[Mace]

Looks like they are keeping 6 safeties atm. Surprised Salas made it, and Whaley finally let go of LB Johnson and G Richardson, though they needed to go.

Only shocked by Lawson but suspect they bring him back cheaper.

[Mr. Miyagi]

Spikes couldn't cover my mother if she ran a pass pattern
That I'd pay money to see.

[Mr. Miyagi]

TE <nobr>Blake Annen (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/blake-annen/e2d900ab-44cc-4c4b-a8f0-bc1a75a5a903/)</nobr>
OLB Kroy Biermann
WR <nobr>Jarrett Boykin (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/jarrett-boykin/351720fd-6421-4a92-905f-a79c65d8f79a/)</nobr>
CB <nobr>Mario Butler (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/mario-butler/1c9eb76d-449f-4520-937e-b13cf4950f6c/)</nobr>
WR <nobr>Kain Colter (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/kain-colter/98d1cbbd-d5b3-4eda-89aa-681dc1e71778/)</nobr>
DT <nobr>Brandon Deaderick (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/brandon-deaderick/1add4dd8-95f0-4c1a-9b76-429573aa6b10/)</nobr>
DL <nobr>Lavar Edwards (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/lavar-edwards/0e9b2bdd-f466-41b2-b93a-515c718bc153/)</nobr>
FB Jerome Felton
RB <nobr>Boom Herron (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/boom-herron/fa783849-7f31-4365-b793-a128b999cc0f/)</nobr>
LB <nobr>Randell Johnson (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/randell-johnson/4ef37401-f67d-464a-8db0-3e7f64e6c78e/)</nobr>
OLB Manny Lawson
WR Dez Lewis
OL <nobr>Marquis Lucas (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/marquis-lucas/e0e5492f-f3f3-432b-9327-a3a9dff155b1/)</nobr>
OT <nobr>Chris Martin (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/chris-martin/25959d58-b2f1-40f2-91cb-9098965180c0/)</nobr>
CB <nobr>Sterling Moore (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/sterling-moore/f1130fbc-ae69-42d9-bc71-1ee39602b22d/)</nobr>
G <nobr>Cyril Richardson (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/cyril-richardson/88868171-cd3d-44b1-a57c-c961cd89bef1/)</nobr>
CB <nobr>Sammy Seamster (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/sammy-seamster/782633bd-5bd0-4187-8c88-548e766842d4/)</nobr>
OLB <nobr>Max Valles (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/max-valles/2bc138e8-991e-450b-bc52-f9cf281f1c08/)</nobr>
C <nobr>Fernando Velasco (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/fernando-velasco/54a9e45e-41fc-42c9-9fb9-bfa6820f0482/)</nobr>
DT <nobr>Casey Walker (http://www.buffalobills.com/team/roster/casey-walker/9b1f0f0b-a94d-4c5f-9ff7-34d0ee8edbee/)</nobr>
RB James Wilder Jr.

http://www.buffalobills.com/news/article-1/Vets-Felton-and-Lawson-headline-Bills-cut-to-53/b0a11e11-a608-4a0b-bd73-d04feda60336?platform=hootsuite

Felton and Wilder and Lawson all surprised me. Not many tears over the other guys.

[Mr. Pink]

Lawson is the biggest shock.

Last night he showed why he was a start in this league and was absolutely dominant against a bunch of backups.

How does Kujo keep making the team?

[X-Era]

Lawson is the biggest shock.

Last night he showed why he was a start in this league and was absolutely dominant against a bunch of backups.

How does Kujo keep making the team?He's athletic with upside.

Same answer I'll give you for the next five years...

[DraftBoy]

Lawson is the biggest shock.

Last night he showed why he was a start in this league and was absolutely dominant against a bunch of backups.

How does Kujo keep making the team?

I didn't get a chance to see any of the preseason games, but I thought I had heard that he looked pretty good during camp and in the games. Could be wrong though.

[Turf]

Lawson shocks me. I thought he was all over the field. Am I thinking of someone else?

[Dr. Lecter]

Kujo did play well this pre-season.

he seems to finally at least be worthy of a roster spot.

[Mahdi]

Not surprised by any of the cuts.. especially along the OL.

We couldn't run the ball or protect with our backup OL in the game.

Lawson became expendable after Lorenzo Alexander's camp and preseason. He even showed some decent pass rush ability and according to Rex is almost flawless with his assignments.

[YardRat]

We have one LBer on the roster that really fits, and produces, in a 34 and he gets cut. Unbelievable. The only factor that would make sense is if the team was trying to avoid the monetary penalty for having three players suspended at the same time (and I actually think that might have been alleviated with the release of Karlos anyway) or if there is a lot more to the pending suspension than we know.

[YardRat]

Not really surprised by any of the other cuts (although I agree with those that think there a few more moves on the horizon before the opening day roster is finalized), but a little bit surprised they kept six safeties. Colt Anderson better be a beast on ST's.

[Goobylal]

Hey MMD, what are you hearing about Lawson/why he was cut?

[Skooby]

Hey MMD, what are you hearing about Lawson/why he was cut?

They got cooked by Dareus on the trust part versus what they paid him, so over-paying another troubled guy they can't really trust didn't make much sense.

[Goobylal]

They got cooked by Dareus on the trust part versus what they paid him, so over-paying another troubled guy they can't really trust didn't make much sense.

Huh? How much trouble has Lawson been in? He had a domestic incident that didn't involve violence 2-1/2 years ago.

[Mace]

Huh? How much trouble has Lawson been in? He had a domestic incident that didn't involve violence 2-1/2 years ago.

Well, you had to ask.

[DraftBoy]

They got cooked by Dareus on the trust part versus what they paid him, so over-paying another troubled guy they can't really trust didn't make much sense.

Over paying? He made an average of 3 million a year.

[swiper]

I see the brand of player they went after here. Gritty and determined

Than they should have kept Lawson too. He was one of the last players on this craptastic roster that I actually liked. He gave 100% on every play. Played every play like his last. Not like that fat, overpaid drug-addict Marcel Dareus who gives effort when he chooses.

[justasportsfan]

Huh? How much trouble has Lawson been in? He had a domestic incident that didn't involve violence 2-1/2 years ago.

Your fault for asking

[Goobylal]

Well, you had to ask.

Your fault for asking

My fault for asking? For starters, he hasn't been suspended. Second of all, he'll get 1 game at most. If he has value to the team, he's worth keeping. If we cut all the players with issues, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

[Dr. Lecter]

Than they should have kept Lawson too. He was one of the last players on this craptastic roster that I actually liked. He gave 100% on every play. Played every play like his last. Not like that fat, overpaid drug-addict Marcel Dareus who gives effort when he chooses.

Well, ****.

They forgot the "Players Swiper likes" rule.

Idiots

[HHURRICANE]

Lawson could be re-signed for less money.

I would not be surprised if they sign Gilmore long term now.

I'm also 100% sure that EJ is being shopped.

[justasportsfan]

My fault for asking? For starters, he hasn't been suspended. Second of all, he'll get 1 game at most. If he has value to the team, he's worth keeping. If we cut all the players with issues, we wouldn't be able to field a team.

Your fault for askind MMD. His sources were off. Hes not troubled prior to this year(not sure yet if hes in trouble now) and he's not overpaid either.

[Goobylal]

Your fault for askind MMD. His sources were off. Hes not troubled prior to this year(not sure yet if hes in trouble now) and he's not overpaid either.

Let me start off by saying I think MMD has some solid sources. But some things don't pass the smell test. In this day and age, we hear about every little thing that happens to pro athletes. I have heard nothing about ML except for that incident 2-1/2 years ago that didn't involve violence.

[justasportsfan]

Let me start off by saying I think MMD has some solid sources. But some things don't pass the smell test. In this day and age, we hear about every little thing that happens to pro athletes. I have heard nothing about ML except for that incident 2-1/2 years ago that didn't involve violence.

So you believe hw has solid sources yet you havent heard anything bad abot ML yet MMD says he's troubled.

Youre not on the 0-15 , 1-15 bandwagon that his sources are selling are you?

[Goobylal]

So you believe hw has solid sources yet you havent heard anything bad abot ML yet MMD says he's troubled.

Youre not on the 0-15 , 1-15 bandwagon that his sources are selling are you?
Maybe the team wants choir boys without any trouble in their past, after these latest incidents? And I think that that 0-16/1-15 thing is his opinion.

[Skooby]

I'm also 100% sure that EJ is being shopped.

It's been ongoing. They need a vet QB, not a bust.

[Skooby]

Maybe the team wants choir boys without any trouble in their past, after these latest incidents? And I think that that 0-16/1-15 thing is his opinion.

Smartest guy in the room.

[Goobylal]

Smartest guy in the room.

Not feasible. And the Bills did that for the better part of a decade and sucked.

[justasportsfan]

Maybe the team wants choir boys without any trouble in their past, after these latest incidents? And I think that that 0-16/1-15 thing is his opinion.

Then Ritchie and MCcoy should be cut then.

His opinion based on his sources that the league wants the bills gone right after they approved the sale to an owner who vowed to keep it in buffalo.

[swiper]

Well, ****.

They forgot the "Players Swiper likes" rule.

Idiots

What is wrong with you?

[Skooby]

Then Ritchie and MCcoy should be cut then.

His opinion based on his sources that the league wants the bills gone right after they approved the sale to an owner who vowed to keep it in buffalo.

McCoy's last incident was debunked and Ritchie's was 2 men banging on each other when one guy got real sensitive. The Bills are trying to keep it classy, just to be clear and they have a lot invested in Dareus. Can you recall the last time the team publically scolded a player like that, much less the highest paid player ??

[Dr. Lecter]

Richie's incident was much more than that.

http://deadspin.com/the-worst-stuff-from-the-dolphins-investigation-updati-1522846626



Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey admitted that they directed racially derogatory words toward him, including "Jap" and "Chinaman." At times, according to Martin, they referred to the Assistant Trainer as a "dirty communist" or a "North Korean," made demands such as "give me some water you ****ing chink," spoke to him in a phony, mocking Asian accent, including asking for "rubby rubby sucky sucky," and called his mother a "rub and tug masseuse." Martin and others informed us that Incognito and Jerry taunted the Assistant Trainer with jokes about having sex with his girlfriend. Incognito admitted that these types of comments were made to the Assistant Trainer.

On December 7, 2012 (the anniversary of the attack on Pearl Harbor), Incognito, Jerry and Pouncey donned traditional Japanese headbands that featured a rising sun emblem and jokingly threatened to harm the Assistant Trainer physically in retaliation for the Pearl Harbor attack. Martin reported that the Assistant Trainer confided to him that he was upset about the Pearl Harbor prank, finding it derogatory and demeaning.



Do you want me to post more? Maybe his **** from Nebraska?

Or more from this article?

[justasportsfan]

McCoy's last incident was debunked and Ritchie's was 2 men banging on each other when one guy got real sensitive. The Bills are trying to keep it classy, just to be clear and they have a lot invested in Dareus. Can you recall the last time the team publically scolded a player like that, much less the highest paid player ??
There is nothing out there that makes Lawson more troubled than those 2 like you claim he is. You have mo sources. Youre guessing. Weve already debunked your opinion ghat ML is overpaid too.

[Dr. Lecter]

There is nothing out there that makes Lawson more troubled than those 2 like you claim he is. You have mo sources. Youre guessing. Weve already debunked your opinion ghat ML is overpaid too.

Sometimes he finds things on Twitter too.

[Goobylal]

McCoy's last incident was debunked and Ritchie's was 2 men banging on each other when one guy got real sensitive. The Bills are trying to keep it classy, just to be clear and they have a lot invested in Dareus. Can you recall the last time the team publically scolded a player like that, much less the highest paid player ??

OK then, what specifically did ML do? Again his DV incident from 2-1/2 years ago didn't actually involve violence, so what was (else) there to make them get rid of him?

[Skooby]

Richie's incident was much more than that.

http://deadspin.com/the-worst-stuff-from-the-dolphins-investigation-updati-1522846626



Do you want me to post more? Maybe his **** from Nebraska?

Or more from this article?

He's a rough guy and maybe in your politically correct world these are crimes, not mine. College doesn't count, who didn't do things wrong there in general and break some laws, underage drinking is perpetually broken by most.

I'm not saying that every person on the Bills needs to be perfect. If there's anyone that's a borderline player that is trouble, being cautious if going to be preferred. We recouped about $2 Million as well, so there's that factor as well as minimal dead money $1 M.

[Skooby]

OK then, what specifically did ML do? Again his DV incident from 2-1/2 years ago didn't actually involve violence, so what was (else) there to make them get rid of him?


As far as specifics, I'd rather not get into specifics."


https://www.google.com/amp/www.newyorkupstate.com/articles/19214429/why_did_buffalo_bills_release_manny_lawson_rex_ryan_short_on_details.amp?client=safari

I'm going to follow Rex's approach.

[Skooby]

There is nothing out there that makes Lawson more troubled than those 2 like you claim he is. You have mo sources. Youre guessing. Weve already debunked your opinion ghat ML is overpaid too.

He's overpaid versus risk, which is something I'm not going to get into.

[Dr. Lecter]

He's a rough guy and maybe in your politically correct world these are crimes, not mine. College doesn't count, who didn't do things wrong there in general and break some laws, underage drinking is perpetually broken by most.

I'm not saying that every person on the Bills needs to be perfect. If there's anyone that's a borderline player that is trouble, being cautious if going to be preferred. We recouped about $2 Million as well, so there's that factor as well as minimal dead money $1 M.


I love it when you are caught not knowing what you are talking about and then change your argument.

[Skooby]

I love it when you are caught not knowing what you are talking about and then change your argument.

Caught doing what ?? Manny was let go because of the amount he made versus the risk of keeping him. You guys want specifics of what risk and I'm not saying anything. I say stuff and days later it happens, you'll see soon enough.