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  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129

    Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

    Here we go again.

    Ugh I guess it is time to focus on the draft especially after we lose on Monday night.

    Unfortunately I think Rex is ride or die with Tyrod and that needs to change. I hope we do not pick up his option next year.

    We need to draft a guy early and let him and Cardale compete for the job and bring in an experienced vet.

    Other moves:
    1. Resign Robert Woods he is really good run blocker and I think would be a great number 3, hopefully the deal is fair but if he wants crazy money let him go

    2. Gilmore is gone - I say bring back Corey White and let him and Seymore compete for the starting job

    3. DL - Resign Corbin Bryant draft a true NT to backup Marcel as no one else on this team can do that and Dareus needs a blow as well

    4. WR - need to draft two and maybe sign one unless Greg Salas is actually good I will leave that up to coaches, he looked good in preseason and in two games last year
  • Joe Fo Sho
    Making Spirits Bright
    • Mar 2006
    • 6194

    #2
    Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

    I'm still not convinced we can get to my projected record of 6-10.

    1 - If I was Woods I wouldn't sign here unless the Bills highly overpaid me. He's better than we allow him to be.

    2 - I'm happy letting Gilmore walk unless he significantly lowers his asking price.

    3 - Agreed.

    4 - I think we have more pressing needs besides WR only because of the style of football we play and how crappy our QB is.

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    • sukie
      Seriously?
      • Sep 2012
      • 21531

      #3
      Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

      Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
      I'm still not convinced we can get to my projected record of 6-10.

      1 - If I was Woods I wouldn't sign here unless the Bills highly overpaid me. He's better than we allow him to be.

      2 - I'm happy letting Gilmore walk unless he significantly lowers his asking price.

      3 - Agreed.

      4 - I think we have more pressing needs besides WR only because of the style of football we play and how crappy our QB is.

      is the style of football determined by crappy WR and a meh B?

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      • OpIv37
        Acid Douching Asswipe
        • Sep 2002
        • 101312

        #4
        Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

        Seahawks, Bengals and Steelers are losses.

        Browns and Jags should be wins.

        Jets, Dolphins and Raiders are toss-ups. None are that great but the Raiders are a WC road trip and the other two have already proven they can beat us. I'm gonna say we go 1-2 in those games.

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        • Joe Fo Sho
          Making Spirits Bright
          • Mar 2006
          • 6194

          #5
          Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

          Originally posted by sukie View Post
          is the style of football determined by crappy WR and a meh B?
          I think it's a combination of the offensive gameplan/play calling and a below average QB.
          The fact that we lose whenever we rely on Tyrod's arm tells me it's on him. Even last year when Sammy was tearing up the league for the last 8 games of the year, Tyrod only averaged 220 yards per game, threw 10 TDs in 8 games (even with 2 games where he threw 3 Tds each), and we went 4-4. Big whoop. We had a stud WR and our QB was still average and we went 0.500. That's with a healthy Woods, too.

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          • EDS
            Registered User
            • Jan 2003
            • 5216

            #6
            Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

            The good news is that the Bills do have ready made replacement for Alexander and Z. Brown for next season, so they will just need additional linebacker depth.

            I could see the Bills going in a different direction with WR, likely with a receiver with upside and size - trying to hedge against future injuries for Watkins.

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            • IlluminatusUIUC
              Registered User
              • Sep 2012
              • 8966

              #7
              Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

              Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
              1 - If I was Woods I wouldn't sign here unless the Bills highly overpaid me. He's better than we allow him to be.
              He's not that great, but being on the most run-heavy offense this side of 1985 is going to cut into his numbers. No question.


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              • Joe Fo Sho
                Making Spirits Bright
                • Mar 2006
                • 6194

                #8
                Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                He's not that great, but being on the most run-heavy offense this side of 1985 is going to cut into his numbers. No question.
                Yeah, he's definitely not an all-star, but I think he's better than the 50 catches, 600 yards, and 3 TDs that he has averaged while he's been here. Especially on a team with a capable QB.

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                • Victor7
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2013
                  • 1270

                  #9
                  Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                  at Seattle ... L
                  at Cincy .... L
                  Jax ..... W
                  at Raiders .... L
                  Pitt .... L ? If Ben doesn't play we should win
                  Browns .... W
                  Fins .... W
                  at Jets .... W

                  There are no certain wins for this freaking team but there are certain losses. I'd say visiting Seattle is for sure a certain loss. I can't imagine a world in which we beat both Cincy and the Raiders on the road. In fact I think we drop both. But maybe we miraculously win one of those although I'd give this scenario a 15% chance of happening. The Pitt game is entirely dependent on whether Big Ben plays or not. We should be able to take care of Miami, Jets, Browns and Jags. Key word should. I also won't be shocked if we lose one (or more) of those.

                  So realistically our ceiling if we play lights out is 10-6. Our floor (likeliest scenario) is 6-10. So as usual we'll end up in between with another uneventful 8-8

                  Book those vacations for January dudes. We won't be watching post season ball as usual.

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                  • DesertFox24
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2005
                    • 2129

                    #10
                    Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                    The one thing I will say is Cincy is not playing like they have in the past. We also have a bye before we play them and the week we play they play Monday night. In other words they have 6 days of rest and prep for us. If we can get Woods, Clay, and Shady back i think we have a real shot there.

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                    • kingJofNYC
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5960

                      #11
                      Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                      I can see Woods going to the Pats. They really liked him predraft, he's a perfect player for them. Run block hard, good route running in short areas, they'd use him better than we do.

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                      • Ed
                        Dude
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 9247

                        #12
                        Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                        Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                        The one thing I will say is Cincy is not playing like they have in the past. We also have a bye before we play them and the week we play they play Monday night. In other words they have 6 days of rest and prep for us. If we can get Woods, Clay, and Shady back i think we have a real shot there.
                        Yeah, I don't understand why people think the Bengals are an automatic loss. They're struggling to score points on offense and their defense is below average. Maybe something will change over the next couple weeks for them, but they're just not a very good team right now. As long as the Bills can get healthier on offense, their's no reason they can't compete. I see this game as a 50-50 toss up right now. A part from the home games against the Browns and Jags, I think I like their chances in this game the best.

                        The Fins and Jets are the last two games of the year, so who knows what kind of situation the Bills or either of them will be in.

                        I don't really know what to make of the Steelers. They should have Big Ben back soon, but they've always been a pretty average road team under Tomlin for some reason. Another game that's still a ways out, so hopefully the Bills are getting closer to full strength by then. Watkins could even be playing. Who knows.

                        The Bills just lost to the best team in the league with a depleted offense, so I'm not going to act like the sky is falling and they can't beat anyone, but an 8 or 9 win season and no playoffs looks likely right now. That dolphin loss was a real let down and big blow to any playoff chances. With the AFC West looking so strong, I don't think 10-6 would even be good enough to get in.

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                        • Mace
                          Haha...yeah you think so ?
                          • Mar 2013
                          • 20315

                          #13
                          Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                          Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                          I think it's a combination of the offensive gameplan/play calling and a below average QB.
                          It's simply he offensive philosophy directed by the HC. Ryan is all about running game, he says it often. That's why he always gets pantsed when games become a passing contest. His defense wasn't supposed to let that happen and it surely won't next game because he says so.

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                          • paladin warrior
                            All-Pro Zoner
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 3272

                            #14
                            Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                            or Maybe 6-10

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                            • Novacane
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 42370

                              #15
                              Re: Yeah 8-8 or 9-7 again

                              They'll beat Cincy then make up for it by losing to the Browns. That's how the Bills roll.

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