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  • The King
    Without me it's just Awe so
    • Jun 2004
    • 42380

    Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

    With Cleveland - According to Schefter...

    Because why not?

    It's a contract year for Collins.
    I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
    "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
    You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
    It was all
    true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
    He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
    mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


  • IlluminatusUIUC
    Registered User
    • Sep 2012
    • 8966

    #2
    Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

    Holy cow what a stupid move


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    • DraftBoy
      Administrator
      • Jul 2002
      • 107443

      #3
      Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

      Why in the hell would they trade their best LB for a 3rd rounder?
      COMING SOON...
      Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
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      • Mahdi
        Registered User
        • Mar 2004
        • 10585

        #4
        Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

        Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
        Holy cow what a stupid move
        I don't remember Bellichick ever getting rid of a player only to see him shine somewhere else for more than one season...

        Givens WR
        Wilfork
        Ty Law
        Logan Mankins
        Randy Moss
        McGinest
        Revis
        Lawyer Milloy

        Im probably forgetting one or two guys who did actually do well elsewhere...

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        • stuckincincy
          Buffalo Bills Fan
          • Sep 2003
          • 15084

          #5
          Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

          Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
          Why in the hell would they trade their best LB for a 3rd rounder?
          This season is preordained?
          Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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          • Mr. Pink
            Peterman Sucks!
            • Mar 2006
            • 35303

            #6
            Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

            Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
            Why in the hell would they trade their best LB for a 3rd rounder?
            Because he was asking for Von Miller type money, the Pats would have never paid it.

            So move him off for something instead of losing him for nothing.

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            • DraftBoy
              Administrator
              • Jul 2002
              • 107443

              #7
              Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

              Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
              Because he was asking for Von Miller type money, the Pats would have never paid it.

              So move him off for something instead of losing him for nothing.
              They could of franchised him and been fine.

              If this move was purely about money then the Pats are dumb. Collins is a fantastic LB.
              COMING SOON...
              Originally posted by Dr.Lecter
              We were both drunk and Hillary did not look that bad at 2 AM, I swear!!!!!!

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              • Joe Fo Sho
                Making Spirits Bright
                • Mar 2006
                • 6194

                #8
                Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                Originally posted by DraftBoy View Post
                Why in the hell would they trade their best LB for a 3rd rounder?
                Probably because they're the best team in the NFL and they can afford to do it. They have a history of not letting any of their top talent go without getting something in return. They probably weren't making any headway with him in terms of a long term deal so they just said 'whatever, let's get something for him.'

                It's not like he's the reason that team is as good as they are. They win with a top passing offense and a good-enough defense. It's not like they're risking a playoff birth without him. Plus, during the playoffs, their defense doesn't seem to be the problem, it's their offense that struggles when they lose. Tom Brady is 17-1 in the playoffs when they score more than 21 points. That's usually a cake walk for that offense.

                I hate them so much.

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                • IlluminatusUIUC
                  Registered User
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 8966

                  #9
                  Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                  Originally posted by Mahdi View Post
                  I don't remember Bellichick ever getting rid of a player only to see him shine somewhere else for more than one season...

                  Givens WR
                  Wilfork
                  Ty Law
                  Logan Mankins
                  Randy Moss
                  McGinest
                  Revis
                  Lawyer Milloy

                  Im probably forgetting one or two guys who did actually do well elsewhere...
                  Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                  Because he was asking for Von Miller type money, the Pats would have never paid it.

                  So move him off for something instead of losing him for nothing.
                  The Patriots are unquestionably the best team in the AFC right now and the odds on Super Bowl favorite. If Collins walked in free agency to get paid, they'd get a compensatory 3rd rounder for him in 2018. So they dealt the best linebacker off a Super Bowl caliber team to get to effectively move up 32 spots in the 3rd and get it one year earlier. It's taking the long view to an absurd extreme, and if in January we are watching LeVeon Bell or Latavius Murray run over their defense it is going to look completely idiotic.


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                  • Mr. Pink
                    Peterman Sucks!
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 35303

                    #10
                    Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                    Originally posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
                    The Patriots are unquestionably the best team in the AFC right now and the odds on Super Bowl favorite. If Collins walked in free agency to get paid, they'd get a compensatory 3rd rounder for him in 2018. So they dealt the best linebacker off a Super Bowl caliber team to get to effectively move up 32 spots in the 3rd and get it one year earlier. It's taking the long view to an absurd extreme, and if in January we are watching LeVeon Bell or Latavius Murray run over their defense it is going to look completely idiotic.
                    Collins played very sparingly Sunday and it didn't look like it made any difference.

                    Now we know why he didn't play much since there was a deal in the works and they didn't want him to get hurt.

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                    • IlluminatusUIUC
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 8966

                      #11
                      Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                      Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                      Collins played very sparingly Sunday and it didn't look like it made any difference.

                      Now we know why he didn't play much since there was a deal in the works and they didn't want him to get hurt.
                      It didn't make any difference because we are rolling out an offense with an injured #1 wideout and #1 halfback with Tyrod Taylor as the triggerman. That might make a huge difference when they are facing a full strength team with a legit offense.


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                      • Forward_Lateral
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 29897

                        #12
                        Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                        He's a product of the system. He'll be garbage in Cleveland.

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                        • Scumbag College
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 4949

                          #13
                          Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                          Why would Cleveland at 0-8 give up a 3rd rounder for a guy in his contract year? None of this makes sense.
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                          • The King
                            Without me it's just Awe so
                            • Jun 2004
                            • 42380

                            #14
                            Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                            Originally posted by Scumbag College View Post
                            Why would Cleveland at 0-8 give up a 3rd rounder for a guy in his contract year? None of this makes sense.
                            They get 9 weeks of exclusive negotiations.
                            I remember that one fateful day when Coach took me aside. I knew what was coming. "You don't have to tell me," I said. "I'm off the team, aren't I?"
                            "Well," said Coach, "you never were really ON the team. You made that uniform you're wearing out of rags and towels, and your helmet is a toy space helmet.
                            You show up at practice and then either steal the ball and make us chase you to get it back, or you try to tackle people at inappropriate times."
                            It was all
                            true what he was saying. And yet, I thought something is brewing inside the head of this Coach.
                            He sees something in me, some kind of raw talent that he can
                            mold. But that's when I felt the handcuffs go on.


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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303

                              #15
                              Re: Patriots trade Jamie Collins for 3rd Round Pick

                              Originally posted by The King View Post
                              They get 9 weeks of exclusive negotiations.
                              I'd say they get a compensatory 2018 draft pick. No way the Browns sign him long term, no way Collins wants to sign with them long term.

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