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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    I think all of the following is likely

    1) Whaley returns
    2) Rex returns
    3) Gilmore is gone
    4) Tyrod is back as our starter
    5) Aaron Williams retires
    6) Kyle Williams restructures
    7) Robert Woods is re-signed
    8) Zack Brown and Lorenzo Alexander are re-signed
    9) Bills draft WR, CB, and OT with 3 of their top 4 picks
    10) We draft a K and cut Crapenter at the end of TC

    And out of that list I like:

    1) Letting Gilmore walk- Never been a fan and he is FAR from worth 13 mill per. I'd rather draft someone and go in a new direction
    2) Whaley returning- He continues to impress with a great Tyrod contract and free agent finds like Lorenzo Alexander and Zack Brown
    3) Robert Woods being back- Love the guy and I'd like him to be a Bill for good
    4) Drafting a WR, CB, and OT
    5) Bringing Tyrod back- He's not our problem and with better talent around him, on the field, for the whole year, I think he can get us to the playoffs

    What I don't like:

    1) Bringing Rex back- It'll happen but it shouldn't. His teams play too undisciplined and he allowed too much bad scheming and play for too long. It cost us games.

  • Mahdi
    Registered User
    • Mar 2004
    • 10585

    #2
    Re: I think all of the following is likely

    Originally posted by X-Era View Post
    1) Whaley returns
    2) Rex returns
    3) Gilmore is gone
    4) Tyrod is back as our starter
    5) Aaron Williams retires
    6) Kyle Williams restructures
    7) Robert Woods is re-signed
    8) Zack Brown and Lorenzo Alexander are re-signed
    9) Bills draft WR, CB, and OT with 3 of their top 4 picks
    10) We draft a K and cut Crapenter at the end of TC

    And out of that list I like:

    1) Letting Gilmore walk- Never been a fan and he is FAR from worth 13 mill per. I'd rather draft someone and go in a new direction
    2) Whaley returning- He continues to impress with a great Tyrod contract and free agent finds like Lorenzo Alexander and Zack Brown
    3) Robert Woods being back- Love the guy and I'd like him to be a Bill for good
    4) Drafting a WR, CB, and OT
    5) Bringing Tyrod back- He's not our problem and with better talent around him, on the field, for the whole year, I think he can get us to the playoffs

    What I don't like:

    1) Bringing Rex back- It'll happen but it shouldn't. His teams play too undisciplined and he allowed too much bad scheming and play for too long. It cost us games.
    I'm in the minority but I want Rex to remain. They have done a good job of coaching up players, adding key pieces that fit their defense and one thing I really like is that we have come out of halftime of most games having made great adjustments to tighten up on defense.

    Rex can get the Bills to the playoffs. From what I have seen our defense has often been in position to make the play but the players haven't won. We need to be a bit more patient and I'm pretty sure Rex will get the recipe right.

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    • coastal
      Legendary Zoner
      • Mar 2005
      • 15513

      #3
      Re: I think all of the following is likely

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      • MikeInRoch
        Registered User
        • Sep 2003
        • 10446

        #4
        Re: I think all of the following is likely

        Originally posted by X-Era View Post
        1) Whaley returns
        2) Rex returns
        3) Gilmore is gone
        4) Tyrod is back as our starter
        5) Aaron Williams retires
        6) Kyle Williams restructures
        7) Robert Woods is re-signed
        8) Zack Brown and Lorenzo Alexander are re-signed
        9) Bills draft WR, CB, and OT with 3 of their top 4 picks
        10) We draft a K and cut Crapenter at the end of TC
        I agree that the first 6, 9, and 10 will happen. I'd really like Woods to re-sign, but I'm concerned someone else will over-pay him. Same with Zack Brown. I do think Alexander will be back.
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        • justasportsfan
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 71579

          #5
          Re: I think all of the following is likely

          Originally posted by X-Era View Post
          1)
          5) Bringing Tyrod back- He's not our problem and with better talent around him, on the field,
          He is a problem when he can't see open players on the field. Bringing more talent is going to do what when he can't even find Clay? He is a below average passing QB which means he is a problem.

          Originally posted by X-Era View Post

          1) Bringing Rex back- It'll happen but it shouldn't. His teams play too undisciplined and he allowed too much bad scheming and play for too long. It cost us games.
          wonder how Russ is going to sell tickets. Then again, there isn't anything to do in the area.

          Originally posted by X-Era View Post
          1) Whaley returns

          10) We draft a K and cut Crapenter at the end of TC
          Why draft a kicker when he might end up losing a game like Nugent. We also tried to draft one and he's gone.
          Last edited by justasportsfan; 11-21-2016, 10:23 AM.
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          • casdhf
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 17542

            #6
            Re: I think all of the following is likely

            Brown is only playing because of Ragland's injury.

            I may be in the minority, but I think Rex is actually doing a good job. We have been killed with injures. Don't forget our 1st and 2nd round picks missed most the season.
            Originally posted by BillsZone Mod
            cas,

            I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

            BillsZone Mod

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            • WagonCircler
              Escaped Convict
              • Jul 2002
              • 5876

              #7
              Re: I think all of the following is likely

              Originally posted by X-Era View Post
              1) Whaley returns
              2) Rex returns
              3) Gilmore is gone
              4) Tyrod is back as our starter
              5) Aaron Williams retires
              6) Kyle Williams restructures
              7) Robert Woods is re-signed
              8) Zack Brown and Lorenzo Alexander are re-signed
              9) Bills draft WR, CB, and OT with 3 of their top 4 picks
              10) We draft a K and cut Crapenter at the end of TC
              11) Bills finish out of the playoffs in 2017, 2018....

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              • Swiper
                Legendary Zoner
                • Sep 2010
                • 33105

                #8
                Re: I think all of the following is likely

                How anyone wanting Ryan to return or saying that Taylor is good at this point is mystifying.

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                • DesertFox24
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 2129

                  #9
                  Re: I think all of the following is likely

                  Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                  1) Whaley returns
                  2) Rex returns
                  3) Gilmore is gone
                  4) Tyrod is back as our starter
                  5) Aaron Williams retires
                  6) Kyle Williams restructures
                  7) Robert Woods is re-signed
                  8) Zack Brown and Lorenzo Alexander are re-signed
                  9) Bills draft WR, CB, and OT with 3 of their top 4 picks
                  10) We draft a K and cut Crapenter at the end of TC

                  And out of that list I like:

                  1) Letting Gilmore walk- Never been a fan and he is FAR from worth 13 mill per. I'd rather draft someone and go in a new direction
                  2) Whaley returning- He continues to impress with a great Tyrod contract and free agent finds like Lorenzo Alexander and Zack Brown
                  3) Robert Woods being back- Love the guy and I'd like him to be a Bill for good
                  4) Drafting a WR, CB, and OT
                  5) Bringing Tyrod back- He's not our problem and with better talent around him, on the field, for the whole year, I think he can get us to the playoffs

                  What I don't like:

                  1) Bringing Rex back- It'll happen but it shouldn't. His teams play too undisciplined and he allowed too much bad scheming and play for too long. It cost us games.
                  I would not say undisciplined per say. Aside from Hughes I have not seen many problems this year. My problem with him is that our offense is in my opinion not designed to get us to the playoffs, it is a great offense if you have a fantastic defense and make it to the playoffs in bad weather. That said you have to make it to the playoffs and our offense is not designed to score points and bunches of points.

                  Do not get me wrong I love the ground and pound and solid defense I enjoy it because watching your team get run is demolarizing.

                  That said I agree Rex should go because I doubt he can get us to a super bowl or make us a consistent contender.

                  Also my real fear is we draft Deshaun Watson in the first round. Rex is obessed with running QBs because from his defensive minded perspective it is hard to stop and gives them problems in preparing a game plan. That said a good accurate passer will beat those running QBs 90 out of 100 times in my opinion.

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                  • SpikedLemonade
                    • Jun 2024

                    #10
                    Re: I think all of the following is likely

                    Whaley is Dead Man Walking when the Bills don't make the play-offs.

                    Unfortunately, like in NY, Rex will handpick his next victim GM.

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                    • Mace
                      Haha...yeah you think so ?
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 20315

                      #11
                      Re: I think all of the following is likely

                      Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                      Whaley is Dead Man Walking when the Bills don't make the play-offs.

                      Unfortunately, like in NY, Rex will handpick his next victim GM.
                      Heh, Pegula said he considers Whaley a "new" GM. He's not going anywhere.

                      Agree with what X-Era says is likely, 1-10, though it might be a problem paying Zach more than someone else will as MikeInRoch points out, don't really agree with some of X's comments.

                      I'm not impressed by Whaley, though I'll give him credit for Zach & Lorenzo, and lesser credit for Taylor's contract (which I'd give credit to Overdorf primarily, though Whaley would have directed it, minor quibble), This was a real deep, talent rich draft which he could have done better with, and I'm just not impressed by his body of work overall.

                      I don't think Taylor can get us to the playoffs, he just isn't in command of the offense so much as he runs plays with relative efficiency. Thing is though, they're determined to have a running smallball QB for their offensive philosophy. Is there a better running smallball QB available who is that elusive and can run that well ? Not that I know of.

                      Is he the problem ? I doubt it, just because of what they want from him, as opposed to the different problem of what they want in a QB for their offense in the modern game. So the problem, to me imho, is their offense and what they want from a QB in it.

                      QB has got to be able to command an offense and take control of even the occasional game for a rally from behind, run a concise two minute drill with urgency, direct his players. Even see Tannehill doing it, Cousins, Winston, Wentz, etc. I don't see that in Taylor. Whenever they fall behind, they stay there. To convince me, Taylor needs to do that, instead of just being ok when everything else is ok.

                      I still don't think any of this this is progress though.

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                      • Crisis
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 12738

                        #12
                        Re: I think all of the following is likely

                        The Pats should have waited a year to overpay for a Bills WR, Woods would be a perfect WR for Brady. I hope we can keep him.
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                        • jamze132
                          Don’t hate…
                          • Jun 2003
                          • 29312

                          #13
                          Re: I think all of the following is likely

                          Whaley isn't really the problem. He's a great evaluator of talent and has brought a lot of talent to the roster. He'll never live down the Watkins pick and I think he's learned from that mistake going forward. I'd love for him to be able to pick the next HC with no influence from ownership.

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                          • SpikedLemonade
                            • Jun 2024

                            #14
                            Re: I think all of the following is likely

                            Originally posted by jamze132 View Post
                            Whaley isn't really the problem. He's a great evaluator of talent and has brought a lot of talent to the roster. He'll never live down the Watkins pick and I think he's learned from that mistake going forward. I'd love for him to be able to pick the next HC with no influence from ownership.
                            Not going toi happen.

                            He is seen as a first time light weight GM at this point in his career whereas the buffoon is still living on the rep Ray Lewis created for him as a defensive guru.

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                            • Victor7
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 1270

                              #15
                              Re: I think all of the following is likely

                              Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                              1) Whaley returns
                              2) Rex returns
                              3) Gilmore is gone
                              4) Tyrod is back as our starter
                              5) Aaron Williams retires
                              6) Kyle Williams restructures
                              7) Robert Woods is re-signed
                              8) Zack Brown and Lorenzo Alexander are re-signed
                              9) Bills draft WR, CB, and OT with 3 of their top 4 picks
                              10) We draft a K and cut Crapenter at the end of TC

                              And out of that list I like:

                              1) Letting Gilmore walk- Never been a fan and he is FAR from worth 13 mill per. I'd rather draft someone and go in a new direction
                              2) Whaley returning- He continues to impress with a great Tyrod contract and free agent finds like Lorenzo Alexander and Zack Brown
                              3) Robert Woods being back- Love the guy and I'd like him to be a Bill for good
                              4) Drafting a WR, CB, and OT
                              5) Bringing Tyrod back- He's not our problem and with better talent around him, on the field, for the whole year, I think he can get us to the playoffs

                              What I don't like:

                              1) Bringing Rex back- It'll happen but it shouldn't. His teams play too undisciplined and he allowed too much bad scheming and play for too long. It cost us games.
                              Agree with you on 1 through 7. With Ragland coming back next year I'm not sure Zach Brown is coming back. I do think Alexander is.
                              I think we are gonna draft a safety pretty high next year. Our best is probably going to retire. Graham is just ok and the depth is probably the league's worst. We are in dire need at the position. I think Carp is back in 2017 baring a huge meltdown from here on out.

                              I have no idea why you (or anyone) is impressed with the Tyrod deal. We basically have to pay him like a top player, which he isn't, or start from scratch by letting him go. No middle ground, the extension that never needed to happen is not impressive in my book by any means. Whaley HAS to go. But I do think he'll be back. Ditto for Rex and his "defensive prowess". Its all fame by now. No actual results on that front.

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