Put Cardale in.

[Mr. Cynical]

Sick and tired of seeing TT miss wide open receivers. Deer in the headlights. A running back who throws. Clearly not going to make it. Start the era of Cardale.

Oh, and fire Rex.

[Mr. Pink]

Have Tyrod start next week again, it's against the Steelers so you don't want Cardale's first game vs them...

Then when Cleveland comes to town have Cardale start. Weak defense. Should give Cardale some confidence in his first start and play him through the rest of the year.

See what you have and if you can build upon that for next year or if you need to go in a completely different direction than any QB on the roster.

[TacklingDummy]

Plus I need Tyrod in fantasy for another week.

[Novacane]

He's clearly not good enough. Hed make a nice back up QB

[Novacane]

Plus I need Tyrod in fantasy for another week.

Wth made YOU draft him?

[Mr. Cynical]

Wth made YOU draft him?
I'm guessing he was drunk and picked 8 RBs first and then picked up the only starting Qb left in the draft. It's the only reasonable answer. ;)

[Mr. Pink]

Tyrod's running ability makes him valuable in fantasy football.

[Albany,n.y.]

Sammy was frustrated watching balls sail over his head or to the other side of the field when he got open.

[justasportsfan]

Sammy was frustrated watching balls sail over his head or to the other side of the field when he got open.

Like the commentator said TT trust his legs more than his arm

[TacklingDummy]

Wth made YOU draft him?

He's actually a decent #2 fantasy QB.

[Goobylal]

Have Tyrod start next week again, it's against the Steelers so you don't want Cardale's first game vs them...

Then when Cleveland comes to town have Cardale start. Weak defense. Should give Cardale some confidence in his first start and play him through the rest of the year.

See what you have and if you can build upon that for next year or if you need to go in a completely different direction than any QB on the roster.

That's what I've been saying. If they lose next weekend, the season is over, so you might as well start Cardale. See what he's got the last 3 games of the season. If it's nothing, you draft a QB and/or sign one in FA.

[djjimkelly]

im sorry to say this


BUT cardale jones is not an nfl player. im sorry he doesnt even belong on the roster

from an improving our draft position put him in

but trust me cardale jones is less of a qb then tyrod is.

[BertSquirtgum]

EJ would be better than Tyrod. Tyrod is such a ****ing joke that it's pathetic. I can't stand him blowing games. All those three and outs when your defense needs a rest and some time to gather themselves. **** off Tyrod.

- - - Updated - - -

They need to start EJ the rest of the year but Wrecks won't because he's a ******.

[Goobylal]

im sorry to say this


BUT cardale jones is not an nfl player. im sorry he doesnt even belong on the roster

from an improving our draft position put him in

but trust me cardale jones is less of a qb then tyrod is.

Maybe he is, maybe he isn't. We'll never find out if he doesn't actually play.

[Turf]

im sorry to say this


BUT cardale jones is not an nfl player. im sorry he doesnt even belong on the roster

from an improving our draft position put him in

but trust me cardale jones is less of a qb then tyrod is.

You could be saying the same thing if Preston was drafted and sat on the bench. By what authority do you say this? Do you really trust Rex to know the difference?

[Crisis]

im sorry to say this


BUT cardale jones is not an nfl player. im sorry he doesnt even belong on the roster

from an improving our draft position put him in

but trust me cardale jones is less of a qb then tyrod is.
Probably, but we already know what we have in Tyrod/EJ. May as well throw the only unknown out there in.

[SaviorEdwards]

I don't know what kind of a pro Cardale will be but the prospect of him throwing to Sammy is unreal...I remember talking to Kenny Guiton and he was gushing over what a freak Watkins is.

[Ingtar33]

Sick and tired of seeing TT miss wide open receivers. Deer in the headlights. A running back who throws. Clearly not going to make it. Start the era of Cardale.

Oh, and fire Rex.

we're not out of the playoffs.

We need to win out to have a chance at making it; but winning 4 straight is entirely possible with the remaining schedule. Until we lose one more you don't throw the towel in.



EJ would be better than Tyrod. Tyrod is such a ****ing joke that it's pathetic. I can't stand him blowing games. All those three and outs when your defense needs a rest and some time to gather themselves. **** off Tyrod.

- - - Updated - - -

They need to start EJ the rest of the year but Wrecks won't because he's a ******.


this was the beer talking.

1) we weren't going to beat the Raiders yesterday. I think we all knew it going in. The Raiders are a legit top 4 team in the NFL. going to the west coast and beating them in their own house? wasn't going to happen. Furthermore Tyrod going 3 and out had little to nothing to do with the raiders comeback. That was all on the defense collapsing like a house of cards, and David Carr doing what a top teir QB does, carve up a defense. I knew what was going to happen the moment I saw the score was 24-9. I thought "well, here comes 4 straight scoring drives from the Raiders"; of course I didn't quite expect them to roll up 29 points in those drives, but the point stands, that's a top end offense. Our mediocre defense wasn't going to slow it down.

2) EJ is a disaster. please don't post when drunk.

[justasportsfan]

im sorry to say this


BUT cardale jones is not an nfl player. im sorry he doesnt even belong on the roster

from an improving our draft position put him in

but trust me cardale jones is less of a qb then tyrod is.


What do we have to lose by trying to find out ?

If people the PAts didn't play Brady because he was a 6th rd draft pick or the Cowboys didn't play Dak because he's a 4th, where would they be? Competing with the bills for he longest playoff drought.

[The Jokeman]

Tyrod's running ability makes him valuable in fantasy football.
As well his usual carefulness of not turning the ball over.

[Mr. Pink]

As well his usual carefulness of not turning the ball over.

That too.

Tyrod had a poor week and only put up 14 in my league this week, but last week he had 23, 29 against Seattle, 18 against NE, 26 against Miami, 23 against SF, 20 against LA, 19 in the first NE game.

He's averaging 20 PPG. Dalton is averaging 20 PPG. Flacco 18. Stafford 22. Palmer 20. Obviously he's no Drew Brees who's averaging 32 but not every QB is Drew Brees.

Taylor is a decent starter for fantasy purposes and a good backup.

[Arm of Harm]

we're not out of the playoffs.

We need to win out to have a chance at making it; but winning 4 straight is entirely possible with the remaining schedule. Until we lose one more you don't throw the towel in.





this was the beer talking.

1) we weren't going to beat the Raiders yesterday. I think we all knew it going in. The Raiders are a legit top 4 team in the NFL. going to the west coast and beating them in their own house? wasn't going to happen. Furthermore Tyrod going 3 and out had little to nothing to do with the raiders comeback. That was all on the defense collapsing like a house of cards, and David Carr doing what a top teir QB does, carve up a defense. I knew what was going to happen the moment I saw the score was 24-9. I thought "well, here comes 4 straight scoring drives from the Raiders"; of course I didn't quite expect them to roll up 29 points in those drives, but the point stands, that's a top end offense. Our mediocre defense wasn't going to slow it down.

2) EJ is a disaster. please don't post when drunk.

Taylor threw for less than 200 yards against Oakland, even though the Raiders had a weak/questionable secondary. As usual, receivers were getting open without being targeted. The Bills' running game produced more yards than the passing game.

The Raiders have the 29th ranked defense in the NFL (http://www.nfl.com/stats/categorystats?tabSeq=2&defensiveStatisticCategory=GAME_STATS&conference=ALL&role=OPP&season=2016&seasonType=REG&d-447263-s=TOTAL_YARDS_GAME_AVG&d-447263-o=1&d-447263-n=1), the 24th ranked pass defense, and the 5th rated offense. You expect an offense like Oakland's to put up its share of points. But you also hope your own team's passing game can help balance that out.

Tyrod Taylor had 72 passing yards on that first Bills drive. The result of that drive was a FG. Taylor threw for 59 yards in garbage time. Of the 191 passing yards Taylor had for the game, 131 were from that first drive, or from garbage time.

On the three TD drives, Taylor had 27 passing yards during the first, 0 passing yards for the second, and 22 passing yards on the third. That's 49 passing yards, total, over the course of those three TD drives, compared to 146 yards from the running game on those three drives. 12 of those rushing yards came from Taylor. All three TDs were rushing TDs, including a rushing TD from Taylor.

As a passer Taylor did almost nothing against Oakland, except for that first drive (FG), and except for a few passes in garbage time when the Raiders were giving him the underneath stuff. The Bills needed much more than that from their passing game, if they were going to take advantage of Oakland's weak pass defense while keeping pace with the Raiders' dynamic offense.

[The Jokeman]

That too.

Tyrod had a poor week and only put up 14 in my league this week, but last week he had 23, 29 against Seattle, 18 against NE, 26 against Miami, 23 against SF, 20 against LA, 19 in the first NE game.

He's averaging 20 PPG. Dalton is averaging 20 PPG. Flacco 18. Stafford 22. Palmer 20. Obviously he's no Drew Brees who's averaging 32 but not every QB is Drew Brees.

Taylor is a decent starter for fantasy purposes and a good backup.
I know he's my back up to Carson Palmer in one league.

[DynaPaul]

im sorry to say this


BUT cardale jones is not an nfl player. im sorry he doesnt even belong on the roster

from an improving our draft position put him in

but trust me cardale jones is less of a qb then tyrod is.

Totally agree. The guy reminds me of a hybrid of Byron Leftwich and Jamarcus Russell. Why the hell would Whaley draft this guy?

[feldspar]

Unfortunately, Cardale is still going to be our "developmental" guy next year, which will make it pretty unlikely that the Bills will draft a guy who REALLY has a chance to develop into something over time...just another complete waste of time, and that's my opinion.

We aren't going to draft any QB until WAY late in the draft unless we don't pick up Tyrod's option, ask me. We'll have Tyrod as the starter, and then Cardale as the developmental guy...the real projected backup up is likely to be a veteran we'll pickup in free agency somehow. Shaun Hill or somebody. I figure EJ to be gone.

The only way we'll get any sort of real prospect (if there is one) would be if they dump Tyrod. But I just don't think they are going to do that.

..my thoughts, not my wishes...

[Mace]

Unfortunately, Cardale is still going to be our "developmental" guy next year, which will make it pretty unlikely that the Bills will draft a guy who REALLY has a chance to develop into something over time...just another complete waste of time, and that's my opinion.

We aren't going to draft any QB until WAY late in the draft unless we don't pick up Tyrod's option, ask me. We'll have Tyrod as the starter, and then Cardale as the developmental guy...the real projected backup up is likely to be a veteran we'll pickup in free agency somehow. Shaun Hill or somebody. I figure EJ to be gone.

The only way we'll get any sort of real prospect (if there is one) would be if they dump Tyrod. But I just don't think they are going to do that.

..my thoughts, not my wishes...

Heh. Honestly it wouldn't surprise me if they keep EJ either. Whaley doesn't like getting rid of his guys, and whether it was he or Nix who drafted him, Whaley stepped up and said he was in the decision process. Not a lot of proven vet FA options who can wildcat or read option unless they get someone elses EJ.

You have to figure they will want a guy who can run their offense as intended, you can see how they intend it, and that means run.

[Goobylal]

Unfortunately, Cardale is still going to be our "developmental" guy next year, which will make it pretty unlikely that the Bills will draft a guy who REALLY has a chance to develop into something over time...just another complete waste of time, and that's my opinion.

We aren't going to draft any QB until WAY late in the draft unless we don't pick up Tyrod's option, ask me. We'll have Tyrod as the starter, and then Cardale as the developmental guy...the real projected backup up is likely to be a veteran we'll pickup in free agency somehow. Shaun Hill or somebody. I figure EJ to be gone.

The only way we'll get any sort of real prospect (if there is one) would be if they dump Tyrod. But I just don't think they are going to do that.

..my thoughts, not my wishes...

Who should the Bills draft at QB and in what round? I'd say they'll probably take Chad Kelly in the 4th or 5th.

[The Jokeman]

Who should the Bills draft at QB and in what round? I'd say they'll probably take Chad Kelly in the 4th or 5th.

If the Bills follow the formula of getting an athletic QB later then sooner than Josh Dobbs would be on their radar. Yet Whaley knows all too well we're in QB purgatory so maybe he risks it all and drafts DaShaun Watson in Round 1.

[Goobylal]

If the Bills follow the formula of getting an athletic QB later then sooner than Josh Dobbs would be on their radar. Yet Whaley knows all too well we're in QB purgatory so maybe he risks it all and drafts DaShaun Watson in Round 1.

If Watson is all that, he'll be gone well before the Bills pick (mid-1st). There are 4 (Browns, 49'ers, Bears, Cards), and arguably 6 (Jets and Jags), teams who will draft before the Bills who need a QB.

[The Jokeman]

If Watson is all that, he'll be gone well before the Bills pick (mid-1st). There are 4 (Browns, 49'ers, Bears, Cards), and arguably 6 (Jets and Jags), teams who will draft before the Bills who need a QB.

I don't trust Watson but he might be the best QB available to the Bills in the 1st Round.

[Goobylal]

I don't trust Watson but he might be the best QB available to the Bills in the 1st Round.

Doesn't matter. He'll be gone in the top-10.

[justasportsfan]

Pass at 1:00 mark is a pass Tyrod cant see therefore wont make.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybKuO8fqaOU

again, pass at 1:00 is what we're missing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjBMpUa8MEo

[swiper]

Put Cardale in.

This is the stupidest idea of the year so far. That guy is crap in a gift-wrapped crap package. ALL THREE QBS will be gone next year (thank goodness).