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BillsImpossible
12-05-2016, 09:05 PM
Regardless of how the season finishes, the Bills are going to draft a QB next year.

Even if the Bills finish 10-6 and make or fail to make the playoffs, they're drafting a QB.

Dak Prescott has set a new standard when it comes to drafting quarterbacks.

I'm going to eliminate any QB that is not at least 6'3.

DeShone Kizer - 6'4 230 lbs

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/87/notre-dame-fighting-irish

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Mitch Trubisky - 6'3 220 lbs

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/153/north-carolina-tar-heels

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Davis Webb - 6'5 230 lbs

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/25/california-golden-bears

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Pat Mahomes - 6'3 219 lbs

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/2641/texas-tech-red-raiders

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Mason Rudolph - 6'5 235 lbs

http://www.espn.com/college-football/team/schedule/_/id/197/oklahoma-state-cowboys

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I'd happily draft Mason Rudolph in the 3rd round.

Mace
12-05-2016, 09:43 PM
Doesn't matter we'll ruin him anyway.

I like Duke Hammersmith from Fordham CC of New West Dakota who I just made up, at 6'5" 225 with a rocket arm who runs like the wind while dating more awesome looking starlets than you can imagine while spurning them for football which he lives and breathes, repeatedly studying every football offense known to man and punching out anyone who doesn't share his passion for the game, including multiple MMA fighters, Nick Saban at a meet and greet, and several demons from the gates of hell that he threw back in a perfect spiral through the gateway mistakenly invoked during an insane blood ritual as he fiercely attempted to gain an advantage over his next opponent, breathing frost that turned into molten flame in his wrath while pursuing his lifelong dream of playing for a crap team that dreams of a QB but has a suburb called Cheektowaga because he likes the sound of it.

BillsImpossible
12-05-2016, 09:50 PM
Holy run on sentence, Mace.

Mace
12-05-2016, 09:51 PM
Holy run on sentence, Mace.

I worked really hard on that one for everyone, which is quality entertainment for your money. I'm here for you people.

Mace
12-05-2016, 10:16 PM
I'd have more to say but that sentence took a lot out of me, man.

WagonCircler
12-05-2016, 10:56 PM
I'd have more to say but that sentence took a lot out of me, man.

Here Mace,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbIajaSH4dg

POTLAND PSILBYLO
12-05-2016, 10:59 PM
Doesn't matter we'll ruin him anyway.

I like Duke Hammersmith from Fordham CC of New West Dakota who I just made up, at 6'5" 225 with a rocket arm who runs like the wind while dating more awesome looking starlets than you can imagine while spurning them for football which he lives and breathes, repeatedly studying every football offense known to man and punching out anyone who doesn't share his passion for the game, including multiple MMA fighters, Nick Saban at a meet and greet, and several demons from the gates of hell that he threw back in a perfect spiral through the gateway mistakenly invoked during an insane blood ritual as he fiercely attempted to gain an advantage over his next opponent, breathing frost that turned into molten flame in his wrath while pursuing his lifelong dream of playing for a crap team that dreams of a QB but has a suburb called Cheektowaga because he likes the sound of it.

I want to **** her

The Jokeman
12-06-2016, 04:37 AM
It's Christmas time so how can you not like Rudolph? Seriously though he's my favorite but intrigued by the Notre Dame kid bit he might be gone by the we pick in the 1st.

Yasgur's Farm
12-06-2016, 10:00 AM
I asked an avid ND fan about DeShone Kizor... Here's his reply...

Physically he is a "perfect" NFL QB. Inconsistent at times and average "zone/read" QB. I am pretty sure he will go to the 49ers as the second pick - they need a QB even more than the Bills do! Worse case, he will go to da Bears at #3 or so. Little chance he will be available by the time the Bills pick (14-16?).

justasportsfan
12-06-2016, 10:35 AM
Stop asking who we want when we're drafting Chad Kelly.

The Jokeman
12-06-2016, 10:39 AM
Stop asking who we want when we're drafting Chip Kelly.

I didn't know the 49ers HC was draft eligible.

Yasgur's Farm
12-06-2016, 10:40 AM
Stop asking who we want when we're drafting Chip Kelly.Uhmmmm... It's Chad.

Yasgur's Farm
12-06-2016, 10:43 AM
Davis Webb is not 6'-5"... He's 6'-3".
http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/probe.php?genpos=QB&draftyear=2017&sortorder=tsxpos&order=ASC

OpIv37
12-06-2016, 10:43 AM
I'm a Notre Dame fan and I like Kizer but I don't know that he's ready for the NFL yet. He misses reads and doesn't feel pressure well.

justasportsfan
12-06-2016, 10:43 AM
Uhmmmm... It's Chad.
Chad Bono?

:hitself:

Yasgur's Farm
12-06-2016, 10:47 AM
Chad Bono?

:hitself:Good recovery!

coastal
12-06-2016, 11:04 AM
I like "Go **** Yourself"

Victor7
12-06-2016, 11:38 AM
Whichever is more like our current trio.

You know because Doug Whaley, the ever wise, Doug Whaley instead of having different types of QB's for versatility, has 3 of the same kind. Slight differences between them but they are basically the same style of QB.

So forget about the pocket passer. Look for the runner type, athlete with little talent for actual passing. That's who he'l draft.

toto8
12-06-2016, 11:59 AM
Regardless of how the season finishes, the Bills are going to draft a QB next year.

Even if the Bills finish 10-6 and make or fail to make the playoffs, they're drafting a QB.

Dak Prescott has set a new standard when it comes to drafting quarterbacks.

I'm going to eliminate any QB that is not at least 6'3.

DeShone Kizer - 6'4 230 lbs
Mitch Trubisky - 6'3 220 lbs

Davis Webb - 6'5 230 lbs

Pat Mahomes - 6'3 219 lbs

Mason Rudolph - 6'5 235 lbs

I'd happily draft Mason Rudolph in the 3rd round.

Mason Rudolph to me looks like Philip Rivers. Some of those highlights remind me of him.

swiper
12-06-2016, 12:33 PM
I asked an avid ND fan about DeShone Kizor... Here's his reply...

I never want anything to do with a QB named DeShone. Furthermore he looks exactly like Jamarcus Russell.

See? Never waste your time on any QB named Jamarcus.

kingJofNYC
12-06-2016, 12:43 PM
Kizer flashes big time talent, but he's raw. Could end up being no better than Tyrod, but he won't bust like EJ, huge upside though.

casdhf
12-06-2016, 01:24 PM
Whichever is more like our current trio.

You know because Doug Whaley, the ever wise, Doug Whaley instead of having different types of QB's for versatility, has 3 of the same kind. Slight differences between them but they are basically the same style of QB.

So forget about the pocket passer. Look for the runner type, athlete with little talent for actual passing. That's who he'l draft. By same kind, I assume you mean they're all black? They do not have the same games at all.

DesertFox24
12-06-2016, 02:19 PM
Luke Falk Washington state is another option. Also stop with this russel Wilson and Dan redefined qb drafting, those teams got lucky pure and simple, they would have gone number 1 overall had everyone knew they would be good.

X-Era
12-06-2016, 02:22 PM
I dont think we will. If we do it would be a later round guy. Maybe Mayfield?

kingJofNYC
12-06-2016, 03:37 PM
We're so ****ed going into 2017. Need to replace Woods, and find another slot WR (Goodwin isn't cutting it). Gilmore is gone, need to replace him as well. We have 1 above replacement level safety, that's it. And we still need a RT. Roster is full of holes.

DraftBoy
12-06-2016, 03:57 PM
Kizer, Trubisky, Mahomes, Falk and Rudolph all have eligibility left.

DynaPaul
12-06-2016, 04:36 PM
The tallest one with the quickest eyes and great accuracy. All else is irrelevant.

trapezeus
12-06-2016, 04:53 PM
and one who wins. this seems to be the intangible that directly correlates to the NFL, tebow not withstanding. If you can throw th eball accurately and have won in college, you tend to go on to be a good qb in the nfl. maybe not a championship qb, but one who can run the 2 minute drill. they need to seriously invest in qb over the next 3 years and just keep drafting high qbs until someone sticks.and if you end up with 2 by some chance, you have a great problem.

Ed
12-06-2016, 05:03 PM
I like Mahomes if he declares and we can get him after the 1st round.

ParanoidAndroid
12-06-2016, 05:06 PM
Luke Falk Washington state is another option. Also stop with this russel Wilson and Dan redefined qb drafting, those teams got lucky pure and simple, they would have gone number 1 overall had everyone knew they would be good.
I'm with you on Luke Falk but in the last few years, I have not wanted any QB more than those two (Wilson and Prescott) because they looked good and were not 1st rounders.

ParanoidAndroid
12-06-2016, 05:08 PM
Kizer, Trubisky, Mahomes, Falk and Rudolph all have eligibility left.
I could see at least Falk going back to play himself into the 1st round.

Victor7
12-06-2016, 05:44 PM
By same kind, I assume you mean they're all black? They do not have the same games at all.

No. I mean they are the same type of QB. Athletic dudes with questionable accuracy, one read types that run better than they pass.


IMO they are extremely similar.

mdcas22
12-06-2016, 06:30 PM
Im drafting 2 quarterbacks lets stop this crap right now here they are,



https://walterfootball.com/college/NotreDame_logo.gif DeShone Kizer, QB, Notre Dame
Height: 6-4. Weight: 230.
Projected 40 Time: 4.70.
Projected Round (2017): 1.
11/30/16: In this analyst's opinion, Kizer is the top quarterback prospect for the 2017 NFL Draft. He has a better physical skill set than Mitch Trubisky or Deshaun Watson. Some league sources have told me they think Kizer will be a high first-rounder.

Kizer is capable of making beautiful touch passes with superb accuracy and ball placement while being under fire from the pass rush. His field vision is very good as he moves his eyes through his progressions, even with defenders bearing down on him. Additionally, Kizer has the arm strength to make all the throws and beat good coverage. He consistently shows the ability to drop in accurate touch passes downfield and the mobility to make plays with his feet. Kizer is an excellent pocket passer.

Kizer had a rough game against N.C. State while playing in a downpour from Hurricane Matthew. He started this year with a tremendous game against Texas and gave evidence to NFL teams that he could be a future franchise quarterback. Kizer lofted in some beautiful passes between defenders against the Longhorns. Kizer also showed excellent decision-making while maintaing poise under the pass rush of Texas. He protected the football and made extraordinary passes into small openings. Kizer also was impressive in leading a near-comeback against Michigan State where he made many similar throws. Kizer had another quality game against Miami.

In 2016, Kizer completed 59 percent of his passes for 2,925 yards with 26 touchdowns and nine interceptions. He also ran for seven touchdowns. Kizer completed 63 percent of his passes last season for 2,884 yards with 21 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. He also ran for 520 yards with 10 scores on the ground.





https://walterfootball.com/college/Mississippi_logo.gif Chad Kelly, QB, Ole Miss
Height: 6-2. Weight: 215.
Projected 40 Time: 4.75.
Projected Round (2017): 4-6.
11/30/16: A torn ACL ended Kelly's 2016 season early, and given the timing of the injury, he won't be able to work out completely for NFL teams prior to the 2017 NFL Draft. Kelly will attend the 2017 NFL Scouting Combine surely, but won't be able to do all the drills. His team interviews will be critical as he is going to get grilled about his off-the-field antics.

Kelly completed 63 percent of his passes in 2016 for 2,758 yards with 19 touchdowns and eight interceptions. In losses to Alabama and Florida State where Ole Miss blew big leads, Kelly had terrible turnovers via bad decisions in crunch time, which made the comebacks possible.

Overall, Kelly's performances this season confirm his gun-slinger style of play. He has the arm to make any throw, but could stand to get more consistent in his field vision, accuracy and decision-making. While Kelly can't be blamed for his defense struggling in allowing comebacks to Florida State and Alabama, Kelly doesn't show the leadership and intangibles to push his team to tough victories. He doesn't have a killer instinct and gets rattled by pressure; both the physical pass rush and the mental/emotional pressure of critical moments in big games.

Kelly also needs to check his ego and clean up his off-the-field issues, too. He has had problems such as yelling at Clemson fans in the stadium parking lot after a fender bender, getting arrested for a bar fight that involved threatening a mass shooting, running onto the field at his brother's high school game, trash-talking teammates on twitter, pursuing porn stars on twitter, creating a self-loving rap song; the list goes on with "Swag" Kelly. Being the nephew of Jim Kelly seems to have created an "Affluenza" quarterback.

When you add in the off-the-field issues from Kelly's ego and behavior, it adds to the questions about his on-field intangibles and ability to lead a team. He has a big arm, but I don't think he has the decision-making and steadiness in his play to be a franchise quarterback. Kelly doesn't strike me as a winner.

7/29/16: Kelly showed development late in the 2015 season and was playing well for Ole Miss. For the year, he completed 65 percent of his passes for 4,042 yards with 31 touchdowns and 13 interceptions. He also ran for 500 yards and 10 touchdowns. It was Kelly's first season starting for the Rebels.

Kelly has a powerful arm with some athleticism. He needs to improve his field vision and decision-making as he throws risky passes downfield too often rather than taking easy completions underneath.

Prior to 2015, Kelly played in the junior college ranks for a year, where he won a National Championship. Kelly started out his collegiate career at Clemson, but didn't last long as Dabo Swinney kicked him off the team "for conduct detrimental to the program." Kelly is the nephew of Hall of Fame quarterback Jim Kelly. Chad Kelly's ego and behavior led to his undoing at Clemson.

justasportsfan
12-06-2016, 07:56 PM
We're so ****ed going into 2017. Need to replace Woods, and find another slot WR (Goodwin isn't cutting it). Gilmore is gone, need to replace him as well. We have 1 above replacement level safety, that's it. And we still need a RT. Roster is full of holes.

Kinda like Hogan sucked until he ended up with the pats? If we can re sign Woods I would. Tyrod is making everyone look bad

TacklingDummy
12-06-2016, 10:10 PM
Who every has the biggest hands, draft him.

Mace
12-06-2016, 10:38 PM
I heard Duke Hammersmith was going to stay in college for a 5th year of eligibility, he does what he wants and no one argues...because he appeared and told me to shut up, it's not his time yet and I don't argue with Duke Hammersmith, so...

I like Mahomes if he declares (he just seems like what these Bills crave), a lot of these players will go fast if they do, because teams are like that with QB's for now or tomorrow....Kelly later if he's there and he probably will be, but I honestly think they'll more dabble later, figuring Cardale develops, and do something like Towles (BC), Leidner (Minn) or Kiel (Cinn) on a whim with late picks.

YardRat
12-07-2016, 06:12 AM
I still like Kelly the best, and it has nothing to do with his pedigree. I don't think accuracy is an issue as the above article indicates, at all. The only knocks on him (outside of the off-field stuff) are his height (IMO he plays taller, so it's not an issue) and turnovers (which he does have). However, he throws the ball downfield and gives his wr's a chance to make plays, and more often than not he comes up on the winning end. I would much rather have a guy under center that risks a pick trying to make a play than a QB afraid to throw the ball that runs around the backfield for 8 seconds before stepping out of bounds for a loss or short gain.

The Jokeman
12-07-2016, 06:24 AM
I still like Kelly the best, and it has nothing to do with his pedigree. I don't think accuracy is an issue as the above article indicates, at all. The only knocks on him (outside of the off-field stuff) are his height (IMO he plays taller, so it's not an issue) and turnovers (which he does have). However, he throws the ball downfield and gives his wr's a chance to make plays, and more often than not he comes up on the winning end. I would much rather have a guy under center that risks a pick trying to make a play than a QB afraid to throw the ball that runs around the backfield for 8 seconds before stepping out of bounds for a loss or short gain.

Kelly's been compared to Rivers, Romo, Fitzpatrick and Grossman in one article. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000701376/article/dare-to-compare-nfl-comp-for-ole-miss-qb-chad-kelly To me that's not a good thing.

trapezeus
12-07-2016, 07:49 AM
No. I mean they are the same type of QB. Athletic dudes with questionable accuracy, one read types that run better than they pass.
yet cardale's intrigue is that he's a winner. ej was too, but not national championship. so i'll give cardale a chance for a season. but I've heard he isn't picking much up and the coaches aren't impressed with his work ethic.

IMO they are extremely similar.

trapezeus
12-07-2016, 07:51 AM
it's amazing that Kelly's offfield problems are so easy for posters to dismiss. but when it's an African American kid, it is a huge red flag. Kelly has been a problem going back to high school and even now as an adult, he's causing problems in high school. the same standard should apply. for the bills to pick him, it smacks of nepotism with Jim's involvements as team ambassador. if it's a later round pick and other qb's are off the board, I can accept it. but if we take him first when other higher ranked qbs are available, it will be disappointing.

Albany,n.y.
12-07-2016, 09:36 AM
I didn't know the 49ers HC was draft eligible.

I've got a feeling he'll be a free agent pretty soon. If not this offseason, by 2018.

WagonCircler
12-07-2016, 09:39 AM
it's amazing that Kelly's offfield problems are so easy for posters to dismiss. but when it's an African American kid, it is a huge red flag. Kelly has been a problem going back to high school and even now as an adult, he's causing problems in high school. the same standard should apply. for the bills to pick him, it smacks of nepotism with Jim's involvements as team ambassador. if it's a later round pick and other qb's are off the board, I can accept it. but if we take him first when other higher ranked qbs are available, it will be disappointing.

Here, have some cheese. It will go nicely with your whine.

Chad Kelly drinks and gets into fights. If I didn't know better, I'd think he was an Irish kid from Buffalo.

Two of our three "African American kids" are very nice kids. Exceedingly nice. But they can't throw a lawn dart into an olympic sized pool. The other kid lost his job 3 times in one year thanks to on-field stupidity.

Kelly has world class arm talent, and is more athletic than most QBs, of any color. He throws across the middle like a ****ing champ. He's tough and he's working hard every day to learn to read and analyze defenses and recognize open receivers. These are the qualities that make an NFL QB.

We get it. You hate Jim Kelly, and his nephew. give it a ****ing rest.

The Jokeman
12-07-2016, 09:57 AM
Here, have some cheese. It will go nicely with your whine.

Chad Kelly drinks and gets into fights. If I didn't know better, I'd think he was an Irish kid from Buffalo.

Two of our three "African American kids" are very nice kids. Exceedingly nice. But they can't throw a lawn dart into an olympic sized pool. The other kid lost his job 3 times in one year thanks to on-field stupidity.

Kelly has world class arm talent, and is more athletic than most QBs, of any color. He throws across the middle like a ****ing champ. He's tough and he's working hard every day to learn to read and analyze defenses and recognize open receivers. These are the qualities that make an NFL QB.

We get it. You hate Jim Kelly, and his nephew. give it a ****ing rest.

But at 6'2" Kelly is undersized by NFL standards and at times forces things in critical moments and he's struggled winning at the NCAA level. I know you know his family personally but Kelly has some issues and why he won't be in the discussion as a top 15 pick. Toss in if he comes here there'll be some monumental pressures to 1) being a home town kid and 2) follow in his Uncle's foot steps. I'm not sure it's fair to the kid and personally rather see him elsewhere.

k-oneputt
12-07-2016, 10:43 AM
I'd be all for taking Kelly, but not in rd.1
He should be available in 3rd or 4th rd.

As I already stated for next year,
1.Romo
2.Cardale
3. Kelly

BertSquirtgum
12-07-2016, 11:31 AM
Trade for Tony Romo and draft Deshaun Watson

DesertFox24
12-07-2016, 11:35 AM
I'm with you on Luke Falk but in the last few years, I have not wanted any QB more than those two (Wilson and Prescott) because they looked good and were not 1st rounders.

I like Dak as well but had we drafted him he would not have played one snap so would still be an unknown commodity.

WagonCircler
12-07-2016, 11:56 AM
But at 6'2" Kelly is undersized by NFL standards and at times forces things in critical moments and he's struggled winning at the NCAA level. I know you know his family personally but Kelly has some issues and why he won't be in the discussion as a top 15 pick. Toss in if he comes here there'll be some monumental pressures to 1) being a home town kid and 2) follow in his Uncle's foot steps. I'm not sure it's fair to the kid and personally rather see him elsewhere.

Dak Prescott, 6'2". Tony Romo 6'2".. Aaron Rodgers 6'2". There are plenty more.

The Jokeman
12-07-2016, 01:45 PM
Dak Prescott, 6'2". Tony Romo 6'2".. Aaron Rodgers 6'2". There are plenty more.

We agree to disagree then on Kelly's talent. To me he is over valued because of his Buffalo ties and being part of the blood line.

DraftBoy
12-07-2016, 01:52 PM
I still like Kelly the best, and it has nothing to do with his pedigree. I don't think accuracy is an issue as the above article indicates, at all. The only knocks on him (outside of the off-field stuff) are his height (IMO he plays taller, so it's not an issue) and turnovers (which he does have). However, he throws the ball downfield and gives his wr's a chance to make plays, and more often than not he comes up on the winning end. I would much rather have a guy under center that risks a pick trying to make a play than a QB afraid to throw the ball that runs around the backfield for 8 seconds before stepping out of bounds for a loss or short gain.

The exact same mentality could apply to Cardale Jones. He's shown that he's more than willing to throw the ball downfield.

- - - Updated - - -


Dak Prescott, 6'2". Tony Romo 6'2".. Aaron Rodgers 6'2". There are plenty more.

Chad Kelly still has to measure 6'2. That's his listed height, but it won't be official until we get the bowl game/combine measurements.

trapezeus
12-07-2016, 03:55 PM
Here, have some cheese. It will go nicely with your whine.

Chad Kelly drinks and gets into fights. If I didn't know better, I'd think he was an Irish kid from Buffalo.

Two of our three "African American kids" are very nice kids. Exceedingly nice. But they can't throw a lawn dart into an olympic sized pool. The other kid lost his job 3 times in one year thanks to on-field stupidity.

Kelly has world class arm talent, and is more athletic than most QBs, of any color. He throws across the middle like a ****ing champ. He's tough and he's working hard every day to learn to read and analyze defenses and recognize open receivers. These are the qualities that make an NFL QB.

We get it. You hate Jim Kelly, and his nephew. give it a ****ing rest.
you took that I hate jim Kelly out of this. solid reading skills

Goobylal
12-07-2016, 04:07 PM
Kinda like Hogan sucked until he ended up with the pats? If we can re sign Woods I would. Tyrod is making everyone look bad

Hogan still sucks. And re-signing Woods depends on his contract demands.

Fixxxer
12-07-2016, 04:13 PM
Doesn't matter we'll ruin him anyway.

I like Duke Hammersmith from Fordham CC of New West Dakota who I just made up, at 6'5" 225 with a rocket arm who runs like the wind while dating more awesome looking starlets than you can imagine while spurning them for football which he lives and breathes, repeatedly studying every football offense known to man and punching out anyone who doesn't share his passion for the game, including multiple MMA fighters, Nick Saban at a meet and greet, and several demons from the gates of hell that he threw back in a perfect spiral through the gateway mistakenly invoked during an insane blood ritual as he fiercely attempted to gain an advantage over his next opponent, breathing frost that turned into molten flame in his wrath while pursuing his lifelong dream of playing for a crap team that dreams of a QB but has a suburb called Cheektowaga because he likes the sound of it.

you are awesome

if Mace's guy is not available, I like Trubisky the most.

YardRat
12-07-2016, 04:42 PM
it's amazing that Kelly's offfield problems are so easy for posters to dismiss. but when it's an African American kid, it is a huge red flag. Kelly has been a problem going back to high school and even now as an adult, he's causing problems in high school. the same standard should apply. for the bills to pick him, it smacks of nepotism with Jim's involvements as team ambassador. if it's a later round pick and other qb's are off the board, I can accept it. but if we take him first when other higher ranked qbs are available, it will be disappointing.

I don't think that's a fair statement, we've dismissed plenty of player's off-field problems not only during draft discussion, but when they are drafted and on the team, regardless of skin color.

YardRat
12-07-2016, 04:43 PM
The exact same mentality could apply to Cardale Jones. He's shown that he's more than willing to throw the ball downfield.

So what? We're not allowed to have more than one QB with that mentality? Do you think we should pass on drafting QB's because we have Cardale Jones?

DraftBoy
12-07-2016, 04:51 PM
So what? We're not allowed to have more than one QB with that mentality? Do you think we should pass on drafting QB's because we have Cardale Jones?

Yes and no.

Simply pointing out if that is the criteria you wish for a QB then we may already have that on our roster.

swiper
12-07-2016, 04:57 PM
Im drafting 2 quarterbacks lets stop this crap right now here they are,


Then it's a sad draft class for QBs once again. Both Jamarcus Russell AND EJ Manuel had better write ups than this Deshone character. He will fail miserably. And Kelly has his baggage. He's no more than a 50/50 chance of being successful in the NFL.

swiper
12-07-2016, 04:59 PM
But at 6'2" Kelly is undersized by NFL standards and at times forces things in critical moments and he's struggled winning at the NCAA level. I know you know his family personally but Kelly has some issues and why he won't be in the discussion as a top 15 pick. Toss in if he comes here there'll be some monumental pressures to 1) being a home town kid and 2) follow in his Uncle's foot steps. I'm not sure it's fair to the kid and personally rather see him elsewhere.

Where in the ****-c-k do you get that 6' 2" is undersized for QBs? THAT exact height is the average for an NFL QB. Please. Just stop posting.

Mace
12-07-2016, 07:28 PM
I'd be all for taking Kelly, but not in rd.1
He should be available in 3rd or 4th rd.

As I already stated for next year,
1.Romo
2.Cardale
3. Kelly

Romo still doesn't fit the offense. Picture him running the wildcat or read option, or getting nailed over and over in that collapsing pocket. QB's just aren't plug and play.

The Jokeman
12-07-2016, 08:55 PM
Where in the ****-c-k do you get that 6' 2" is undersized for QBs? THAT exact height is the average for an NFL QB. Please. Just stop posting.

Poll most scouts and GMs and ideal height is 6'4". http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/11/18/nfl-quarterbacks-does-height-matter/76023390/

X-Era
12-08-2016, 06:23 AM
Sequester Grundelplith M.D.

He's a Doctor so he has to be really smart.

k-oneputt
12-08-2016, 08:07 AM
Romo still doesn't fit the offense. Picture him running the wildcat or read option, or getting nailed over and over in that collapsing pocket. QB's just aren't plug and play.


Well no kidding. You really think they would run an option with Romo ????
Obviously parts of the offense will change.