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blackonyx89
12-11-2016, 12:21 PM
There's not a lot of quality veteran QBs out there and fans can't wait two to three years on Cardale or another ( hopefully NFL ready) draft pick, which one of these three do you want?
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000754385/article/tyrod-taylors-contract-gives-bills-options-in-offseason.

coastal
12-11-2016, 12:24 PM
All in on romo

justasportsfan
12-11-2016, 12:25 PM
If Rex is still the HC then its still a run first philosophy then Kaep fits this team

WagonCircler
12-11-2016, 12:53 PM
**** Kaepernick. Not only is a an *******, he's a HORRIBLE QB. He was just pulled from a game in which he was sacked 5 times and threw for FOUR ****ing yards.

ParanoidAndroid
12-11-2016, 01:03 PM
Romo is the only one of those QB's that improves this offense.

stuckincincy
12-11-2016, 01:07 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they talked with CIN about AJ McCarron.

Turf
12-11-2016, 01:26 PM
Cutler is the only one that makes sense. Kaeperdick is a no no, I'll stop being a fan of this team if he comes. Romo's too old.

Novacane
12-11-2016, 01:28 PM
Why would Kaepernick even be a consideration?

stuckincincy
12-11-2016, 01:33 PM
FWIW, RGIII is back for CLE and started against CIN today. He's currently 2 for 10, 20 yards and a pick. I sure hope he's not going to be in the running...

TacklingDummy
12-11-2016, 01:36 PM
Romo

Novacane
12-11-2016, 01:59 PM
FWIW, RGIII is back for CLE and started against CIN today. He's currently 2 for 10, 20 yards and a pick. I sure hope he's not going to be in the running...


Hell if kaepersuckdickhead is RG3 should be too!

blackonyx89
12-11-2016, 02:06 PM
FYI, an article regarding why the Bills won't trade for Romo or Cutler. They need to stop messing around and GO BIG for a quality QB.
http://www.hashtagsports.net/articles/bills-will-not-trade-for-cutler-or-romo.

coastal
12-11-2016, 02:15 PM
**** it then... time to tank.

The Jokeman
12-11-2016, 02:25 PM
Cutler because he'll be cheap and won't cost us any draft picks to acquire.

YardRat
12-11-2016, 04:06 PM
If it's only those three, I take Cutler. Kap sucks more than Taylor, and Romo is too broken down.

My actual choice would none of the above, draft a rookie and roll with him. Have to admit, however, I'd like to make a play for McCarron.

mdcas22
12-11-2016, 04:14 PM
If it's only those three, I take Cutler. Kap sucks more than Taylor, and Romo is too broken down.

My actual choice would none of the above, draft a rookie and roll with him. Have to admit, however, I'd like to make a play for McCarron.
don't agree here, Kap has 10 TD's and 3 ints going into today and has only played in 7 games. plus he is surrounded by crap compared to what Buffalo has on the o side of the ball.

sudzy
12-11-2016, 04:14 PM
Is it just a given that this team is incapable of ever drafting a QB?

mdcas22
12-11-2016, 04:20 PM
Is it just a given that this team is incapable of ever drafting a QB?

I think its time to go all in on one no matter what it takes as long as they are guys like Wentz or Winston etc. I'd trade what ever it took.

sudzy
12-11-2016, 04:28 PM
I've been looking at the mock drafts. There seems to be about 4-5 QBs with 1st and 2nd round grades. I'd like to grab one of them. I just don't have any faith that the Bills scouting department knows what an NFL QB looks like.

Thurmal
12-11-2016, 05:54 PM
I have stuck with the Bills through a lot of ****. Four SB losses, no playoffs since I've been in 10th grade, Dick Jauron, Chan Gailey, etc.

I still stick with them, try to get back to B-LO for one game a year, etc. Almost nothing could make me abandon being a Bills fan. If they sign Kaepernick, though, I'm done. I will not pull for some socialist, Muslim-sympathizing, anti-white douchebag.

djjimkelly
12-11-2016, 08:13 PM
only romo while we draft one romo for 2017 and draft one in 2018 .

im not sure this is the year to grab a qb just like the EJ year

Mr. Pink
12-11-2016, 09:27 PM
Any of them are better than Tyrod.

Mace
12-11-2016, 09:47 PM
Muslim-sympathizing

I live and work in a building full of them, think the world of them, would defend them from a mob to the death, might have to some day. Refine your dimwit comment of redneck moonshine philosophy or keep the whiteboy smarts where they belong, at the outhouse near the last corncob.

I don't like any of them. Harbaugh Kap, young Romo and early Cutler had their charms. Kap needs Gailey's pistol or Harbaugh again, Romo needs a pocket passer offense with redoubtable line because he's brittle and aging, and Cutler at this point looks uncoachable in any conceivable offense.

Retread gets you someone elses failure, draft a guy, get rid of Wildcat Lee and hire a real QB coach with a journeyman in the desired philosophy to bridge it.

Mr. Pink
12-11-2016, 09:52 PM
If you're gonna draft someone, a good bridge would be Brian Hoyer.

He has performed well when he's been on the field, even for the Cleveland Browns, and he's a guy who a. won't command a ton of money and b. would be fully accepting of the role.

The Jokeman
12-12-2016, 06:43 AM
If you're gonna draft someone, a good bridge would be Brian Hoyer.

He has performed well when he's been on the field, even for the Cleveland Browns, and he's a guy who a. won't command a ton of money and b. would be fully accepting of the role.
Hoyer is also a half way decent veteran back up. I wouldn't mind him with Cardale and a rookie as our three QBs for 2017. Though it could come down to who are HC/OC end up being to see if that would happen.

TacklingDummy
12-12-2016, 07:41 AM
Is it just a given that this team is incapable of ever drafting a QB?

Of all the times they threw shlt on the wall it only has stuck once in its franchise history.

Sad if you think about it.

Forward_Lateral
12-12-2016, 07:51 AM
If you can get Romo for a decent price, him. I wouldn't touch Cutler or Kaep with a 10 foot pole.

I'd then draft Chad Kelly and let him back up Romo for a season or 2.

The Jokeman
12-12-2016, 07:57 AM
If you can get Romo for a decent price, him. I wouldn't touch Cutler or Kaep with a 10 foot pole.

I'd then draft Chad Kelly and let him back up Romo for a season or 2.

Jerry Jones likes Romo a lot, I can't see us getting him for anything less than a 2nd rounder yet his contract could kills the Bills. Toss in his back is a big concern and it might call for our developmental QB play sooner than later.

Historian
12-12-2016, 08:48 AM
All garbage.

The Beef
12-12-2016, 09:15 AM
Cutler is the most realistic. He's either getting cut or would cost pennies and you give a 2 year deal that you can get out after one.

He's trash but he would try and get the ball to Sammy and Clay.

He's also got a shoulder injury so yeahhhhhh.

Bill Cody
12-12-2016, 09:21 AM
Cutler is a turnover machine. He's not good. Kaep stinks. Romo is a good player but he's going to get hurt. I guess if he's cut I'd take him, I'd be a fun 3 games. Failing that you draft a QB and plan on starting EJ until he's ready. EJ is better than Taylor IMO.

Jimkelly12203
12-12-2016, 09:28 AM
Romo is broken and old.

Cutler is uncoachable (as has been stated) and everything about him from a leadership standpoint is an F. Even with that big arm, the best he could do is come in and put up big numbers. He doesn't have the "it" factor that you need for the face of your franchise. He's also a douche. But to his credit he has a hot wife.

Kaep is both a bad QB and well over half of the fan base could never root for him because of his political beliefs.

We're going to need to find our next guy in the draft. Which is something this franchise has successfully accomplished only once.

More pressing even than that, we need to get a football czar (for lack of a better word) in the front office. If we're going to start this next "rebuilding" era with Whaley and Brandon leading the team, then the results will be the same as we've had for the last 17 years.

Whaley has not been able to get along with any head coach. He didn't get along with Doug Moron and he is not getting along with Rex. If Whaley had his way, EJ would be the starting QB and the future QB. He shouldn't be here anymore. His drafts have not been good and his decision making has been worse. He may have hit on some journeyman FAs, but that was more luck than anything.

justasportsfan
12-12-2016, 09:37 AM
All garbage.

Unfortunately, thats all we have to sort through.

The Jokeman
12-12-2016, 09:45 AM
Unfortunately, thats all we have to sort through.

Another option is trade for Teddy Bridgewater assuming the Vikings keep Bradford. Yet I'm not sure what form of compensation they'd be looking for.

DynaPaul
12-12-2016, 11:54 AM
All 3 of those guys are busted in different ways and 2 of them are old. I wouldn't spend any money on them.

WagonCircler
12-12-2016, 01:44 PM
Another option is trade for Teddy Bridgewater assuming the Vikings keep Bradford. Yet I'm not sure what form of compensation they'd be looking for.

Yeah, um....no.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/theres-concern-teddy-bridgewater-might-never-make-it-back-to-the-nfl/

Mike13
12-12-2016, 02:27 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they talked with CIN about AJ McCarron.
You really wanna go the "Maybe he's good, maybe he isnt" route?

stuckincincy
12-12-2016, 02:37 PM
You really wanna go the "Maybe he's good, maybe he isnt" route?

I merely make mention of him. What's your pleasure?

Chit-chat on McCarron and trade possibilities:

Move The Sticks: Garoppolo, McCarron potential trade targets
By Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks NFL.com Published: Dec. 2, 2016 at 11:46 a.m. Updated: Dec. 2, 2016 at 01:28 p.m

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000749648/article/move-the-sticks-garoppolo-mccarron-potential-trade-targets

Mike13
12-12-2016, 10:53 PM
I merely make mention of him. What's your pleasure?

Chit-chat on McCarron and trade possibilities:

Move The Sticks: Garoppolo, McCarron potential trade targets
By Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks NFL.com Published: Dec. 2, 2016 at 11:46 a.m. Updated: Dec. 2, 2016 at 01:28 p.m

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000749648/article/move-the-sticks-garoppolo-mccarron-potential-trade-targets

I'd rather take a flyer on a QB in the draft.

stuckincincy
12-13-2016, 08:52 PM
I'd rather take a flyer on a QB in the draft.

Who can figure out how BUF (and CLE) has gone so many years without really hitting on a QB? Draft picks in high and mid and low rounds, trades, team's starters, some decent FAs, washouts and on and on.

Bill Cody
12-14-2016, 10:43 AM
I'd be tempted to offer NE our 1st for Jimmy Garoppolo. He's 25 and has been in the league a while so he'd be ready to start. Probably better than the raw prospect you'd get from the draft. Only thing is you'd have to pay him. He's not as big a guy as I prefer at QB but he has a reasonably quick release and moves around pretty well. Cleveland may outbid us if they offer them their 2nd #1 (around 10th) that they got from Philly but if they only offer a 2nd I'd take a chance. If you're going to change coaches might as well give him a QB he can build around instead of some veteran bum or a guy like Romo near the end of the string.

The Jokeman
12-14-2016, 01:14 PM
I'd be tempted to offer NE our 1st for Jimmy Garoppolo. He's 25 and has been in the league a while so he'd be ready to start. Probably better than the raw prospect you'd get from the draft. Only thing is you'd have to pay him. He's not as big a guy as I prefer at QB but he has a reasonably quick release and moves around pretty well. Cleveland may outbid us if they offer them their 2nd #1 (around 10th) that they got from Philly but if they only offer a 2nd I'd take a chance. If you're going to change coaches might as well give him a QB he can build around instead of some veteran bum or a guy like Romo near the end of the string.

Not me as the patriots know him too well so they can exploit his weaknesses and we can keep be their whipping boys. The only veteran QB I think is worth considering trading for is Teddy Bridgewater but I don't want to give anything more than a 2nd this year and possibly a conditional pick in 2018. Yet I'm not completely sold on him either.

Mr. Pink
12-14-2016, 01:26 PM
I'm thinking that if the Pats are willing to move Jimmy G for anything less than a kings ransom that means they're not sold on him being the QB of the future. Brady is now 39 and can't have that many more years left in him.

WagonCircler
12-14-2016, 02:03 PM
Not me as the patriots know him too well so they can exploit his weaknesses and we can keep be their whipping boys. The only veteran QB I think is worth considering trading for is Teddy Bridgewater but I don't want to give anything more than a 2nd this year and possibly a conditional pick in 2018. Yet I'm not completely sold on him either.

Insane. He will probably never play again.

The Jokeman
12-14-2016, 02:30 PM
Insane. He will probably never play again.

and besides drafting Chad Kelly how do you propose we fix the QB situation?

Bill Cody
12-14-2016, 03:53 PM
I'm thinking that if the Pats are willing to move Jimmy G for anything less than a kings ransom that means they're not sold on him being the QB of the future. Brady is now 39 and can't have that many more years left in him.

Not really. Jimmy G's contract is up after next year. NE either trades him this offseason or they let him walk at the end of year. You tell me- is NE going to have the stones to tell Brady he's out after next year? I get that he's old but he's having an MVP season this year. NE will take what they can get. They can't hold off for a king's ransom. Unless you think Jimmy G would resign to stay Brady's backup which he 100% will not do.

Bill Cody
12-14-2016, 03:57 PM
Not me as the patriots know him too well so they can exploit his weaknesses and we can keep be their whipping boys. The only veteran QB I think is worth considering trading for is Teddy Bridgewater but I don't want to give anything more than a 2nd this year and possibly a conditional pick in 2018. Yet I'm not completely sold on him either.

They exploit every QB's weaknesses. Watching film is no different that watching a player live. In fact film is better you can get more out of it.

The Jokeman
12-14-2016, 04:00 PM
They exploit every QB's weaknesses. Watching film is no different that watching a player live. In fact film is better you can get more out of it.

and I'd imagine being they are the Patriots they probably have more film on him already then any other team.

WagonCircler
12-14-2016, 04:35 PM
and besides drafting Chad Kelly how do you propose we fix the QB situation?

I'm all in favor of picking up a vet like Hoyer and drafting Kelly, and bringing in Frank Reich as Head Coach. I think he would do wonders for the QB situation.

I'd also love to see Wade Phillips get another shot here as HC.

In any event, picking up a QB with a knee injury worse than Willis McGahee's would not be part of my plan.

Did I mention that I'd fire Doug Whaley today, at the latest?

The Jokeman
12-14-2016, 05:42 PM
I'm all in favor of picking up a vet like Hoyer and drafting Kelly, and bringing in Frank Reich as Head Coach. I think he would do wonders for the QB situation.

I'd also love to see Wade Phillips get another shot here as HC.

In any event, picking up a QB with a knee injury worse than Willis McGahee's would not be part of my plan.

Did I mention that I'd fire Doug Whaley today, at the latest?

I'm willing to buy into the Hoyer, Reich plan of attack, assuming Frank can get us a good D-coordinator. Yet I can't say I agree with adding Chad or dropping Whaley.

The Beef
12-15-2016, 09:10 AM
Jimmy G is probably going to get tagged and traded or the Patriots are going to sign him for damn near starter money until Brady dies. Unless Brady hits a wall like Peyton he still looks to have 3 elite years ahead of him.

Wouldnt be surprised to see the Browns give up their 2nd 1st rounder this year and a handful of other picks to land Jimmy.

The Jokeman
12-15-2016, 09:44 AM
Jimmy G is probably going to get tagged and traded or the Patriots are going to sign him for damn near starter money until Brady dies. Unless Brady hits a wall like Peyton he still looks to have 3 elite years ahead of him.

Wouldnt be surprised to see the Browns give up their 2nd 1st rounder this year and a handful of other picks to land Jimmy.

It's obvious in the last few games that Brady is more elite with Gronk around. The question is how long does Gronk stay around? As his body must be a mess with all the injuries he's had over the years. Toss in outside winning another championship what does Brady have to play for? unless he wants to break every passing record so people will call him the greatest to inflate his ego even more.

Bill Cody
12-15-2016, 12:00 PM
It's obvious in the last few games that Brady is more elite with Gronk around. The question is how long does Gronk stay around? As his body must be a mess with all the injuries he's had over the years. Toss in outside winning another championship what does Brady have to play for? unless he wants to break every passing record so people will call him the greatest to inflate his ego even more.

Other than the pick in the end zone Brady was damn near perfect on Monday night vs Baltimore without Gronk. Sure Gronk would help him, he's a future HOF player. But 400+ yards against that Ravens D isn't bad. TT threw for 111 yards against them. Brady likes to play and he keeps himself in great shape. I expect he will be playing for another 5 years.

Bill Cody
12-15-2016, 12:04 PM
Jimmy G is probably going to get tagged and traded or the Patriots are going to sign him for damn near starter money until Brady dies. Unless Brady hits a wall like Peyton he still looks to have 3 elite years ahead of him.

Wouldnt be surprised to see the Browns give up their 2nd 1st rounder this year and a handful of other picks to land Jimmy.

I sincerely doubt that he will be tagged after 2017 or that JG will be interested in any contract extension in NE that involves him watching games. They don't need to tag him to trade him this offseason. It's possible the Browns could surrender their 2nd 1st rounder but that would be the max they'd pay, not sure they'll even offer that.

Bill Cody
12-15-2016, 12:08 PM
I'm all in favor of picking up a vet like Hoyer and drafting Kelly, and bringing in Frank Reich as Head Coach. I think he would do wonders for the QB situation.



Brian Hoyer is not an NFL starting QB. Period. And he has a concussion history. He's not even as good as your buddy EJ.

The Jokeman
12-15-2016, 12:17 PM
Brian Hoyer is not an NFL starting QB. Period. And he has a concussion history. He's not even as good as your buddy EJ.

Hoyer is a good place holder QB/back up. So basically the plan is have Cardale and QB X and Hoyer compete to be the starter. Ultimately it's like what we tried to do with EJ, Tyrod and Cassel all over again. Yet Hoyer is still at a phase where can be a decent backup like he was for Chicago this year. Not to mention he likely not going to costs tons of money to sign.

Bill Cody
12-15-2016, 03:37 PM
Hoyer is a good place holder QB/back up. So basically the plan is have Cardale and QB X and Hoyer compete to be the starter. Ultimately it's like what we tried to do with EJ, Tyrod and Cassel all over again. Yet Hoyer is still at a phase where can be a decent backup like he was for Chicago this year. Not to mention he likely not going to costs tons of money to sign.

We have plenty of backups already but no real starter. Hoyer adds nothing. When you're sifting through Texan/Browns trash you know things are lean.

BertSquirtgum
12-15-2016, 04:59 PM
Whaley needs to trade for Tony Romo over the winter.

ticatfan
12-16-2016, 09:08 AM
NonE of the 3 or the bill will just keep losing.IMO.

Luisito23
12-16-2016, 10:40 AM
Romo might not even make it out of another TC, I'm unsure why so many keep on sweating him like he was 5 years younger...The other aren't even worth talking about.