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  • WagonCircler
    Escaped Convict
    • Jul 2002
    • 5876

    Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

    Graham is dead-on here. He makes his case like a prosecutor's closing argument. The blame for the recent run of suck goes far deeper than just Rex and his fat brother.



    Right on schedule, weeks before Christmas, the Buffalo Bills' season is over.

    Now it's time for the finger pointing and politicking at One Bills Drive.

    Western New York's most tiresome winter pastime is upon us, and this episode could be more blustery than normal.

    Reports fluttered Sunday like the snowflakes around New Era Field, where the Pittsburgh Steelers left cleat marks on the organization's forehead


    Doug Whaley making a power play ... Rex Ryan fired as early as Monday ... Anthony Lynn perhaps the interim ... time to bench Tyrod Taylor ... a desire for Cardale Jones to get a chance ...

    The timing for a cosmetic coaching change would be perfect, with the slovenly Cleveland Browns and New York Jets two of the three remaining opponents. The other game is here against the suddenly starting-quarterbackless Miami Dolphins.

    The Bills probably will look pretty good the rest of the way, further validating a forceful statement and resetting the PR-o-meter from "Complete Dejection" to "Can't Wait Until Next Year."

    For that reason, the Bills might as well move on from quarterback Tyrod Taylor, too, and get a head start on the Cardale Jones era.

    See, fans? We feel your misery! We did something about it! And, look, the results have been immediate! Here come the double rainbows and leaping gnomes!

    Don't buy that story line. You're not that gullible. Bills fans have lived and learned and grown and groaned over the 17 years since their team last made the playoffs.

    Time for Terry and Kim Pegula to fumigate the entire football department.

    Detoxify, disinfect and decolonize it. Then hose down the empty offices with Febreze.

    I'd sooner advocate for full continuity than for addressing the problem halfway.

    Ryan isn't the only one to blame, and he goes back merely two years.

    They're all culpable.

    Russ Brandon, the team's managing partner and president, has been with the Bills 20 years and has been involved in football decisions the past nine years. Since he became general manager in 2008, although his official bio in the Bills' media guide suspiciously omits any reference to him being GM, the Bills' record is 58-83.

    Whaley is in his fourth year as GM but became an influential voice in 2010, when he was hired as Buddy Nix's successor. Buffalo is 45-63 since Whaley left the Steelers to join the front office.

    Much more...
  • Mr. Pink
    Peterman Sucks!
    • Mar 2006
    • 35303

    #2
    Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

    Brandon won't go anywhere, he's sold this crap product for 16 years now and the fans gobble this junk up. He's probably the only one in the organization that actually does his job properly as long as he stays out of the football side.

    Whaley should go. I don't trust him to draft replacements for this crap show.

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    • WagonCircler
      Escaped Convict
      • Jul 2002
      • 5876

      #3
      Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

      Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
      Brandon won't go anywhere, he's sold this crap product for 16 years now and the fans gobble this junk up. He's probably the only one in the organization that actually does his job properly as long as he stays out of the football side.

      Whaley should go. I don't trust him to draft replacements for this crap show.
      Did you even read the article? Graham makes the case that Brandon doesn't stay out of the football side.

      I don't think either one will be fired, but they both should be.

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      • Mr. Pink
        Peterman Sucks!
        • Mar 2006
        • 35303

        #4
        Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

        Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
        Did you even read the article? Graham makes the case that Brandon doesn't stay out of the football side.

        I don't think either one will be fired, but they both should be.
        I did read it. I don't think Brandon is as involved in the football side as much as people want to scapegoat him for. If he is indeed involved in the football side then he should be removed from it entirely so he can focus on what he does very well. Sell this garbage product year in and year out.

        Unfortunately, I don't think Whaley will be fired either. They'll just end up promoting Lynn to HC, a few coaches will be changed and that'll be the end of it.

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        • Novacane
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 42369

          #5
          Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

          Pegula should of cleaned house 2 years ago. Time to atone for that mistake.

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          • TacklingDummy
            Unreachable Douche
            • Jul 2002
            • 71725

            #6
            Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

            Originally posted by Novacane View Post
            Pegula should of cleaned house 2 years ago. Time to atone for that mistake.
            Agreed. Run it like the sabres.

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            • Mr. Pink
              Peterman Sucks!
              • Mar 2006
              • 35303

              #7
              Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

              Originally posted by Novacane View Post
              Pegula should of cleaned house 2 years ago. Time to atone for that mistake.
              Pegula sucks in two sports hiring GMs and Coaches.

              That takes talent!

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              • Mace
                Haha...yeah you think so ?
                • Mar 2013
                • 20315

                #8
                Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                It was a very direct article. I don't see anything to argue with. Graham unloaded on target.

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                • bleve
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2005
                  • 876

                  #9
                  Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                  Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                  Brandon won't go anywhere, he's sold this crap product for 16 years now and the fans gobble this junk up. He's probably the only one in the organization that actually does his job properly as long as he stays out of the football side.

                  Whaley should go. I don't trust him to draft replacements for this crap show.
                  Russ has not "sold" anything. Buffalo is football. The surrounding area lives for it's Bills, and Russ has nothing to do with it. Put a competent team on the field, and the customers will show up. In Buffalo - put anything on the field and the customers will show up - assuming there is a meaningful direction to success. As long as Russ Brandon has a title that has anything to do with any decision - the Bills will be as they have been throughout his tenure - mediocre.
                  "You can't be a real country unless you have beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need beer."
                  ~ Frank Zappa

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                  • OpIv37
                    Acid Douching Asswipe
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 101306

                    #10
                    Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                    Originally posted by Mace View Post
                    It was a very direct article. I don't see anything to argue with. Graham unloaded on target.
                    The problem is that numerous posters on this board, myself included, wanted a scorched earth policy when Pegula took over. No one with one drop of blood on their hands for the Millenium of Fail should have been retained.

                    But Pegula made the EXACT same mistakes he did with the Sabres. He believed the snake oil salesmen that the team was just a few tweaks from competing. Then the team mires in mediocrity for 2-3 years before he realizes that we have to break it down and start over.
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                    • Mr. Pink
                      Peterman Sucks!
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 35303

                      #11
                      Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                      Originally posted by bleve View Post
                      Russ has not "sold" anything. Buffalo is football. The surrounding area lives for it's Bills, and Russ has nothing to do with it. Put a competent team on the field, and the customers will show up. In Buffalo - put anything on the field and the customers will show up - assuming there is a meaningful direction to success. As long as Russ Brandon has a title that has anything to do with any decision - the Bills will be as they have been throughout his tenure - mediocre.
                      Cleveland is football, and their stadium was half empty today.

                      So the argument that a city is football so the fans are dumbasses, doesn't fly.

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                      • Mace
                        Haha...yeah you think so ?
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 20315

                        #12
                        Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                        Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                        The problem is that numerous posters on this board, myself included, wanted a scorched earth policy when Pegula took over. No one with one drop of blood on their hands for the Millenium of Fail should have been retained.

                        But Pegula made the EXACT same mistakes he did with the Sabres. He believed the snake oil salesmen that the team was just a few tweaks from competing. Then the team mires in mediocrity for 2-3 years before he realizes that we have to break it down and start over.
                        Well don't get mad at me, I did too and have been complaining Pegula runs on a hockey 5 year timetable right along if you ever read a football word I said. I've argued against Taylor, Brandon, Whaley, hockey-years, Pegula's direction. I've tried manufacturing optimism with every stupid decision they made, deferred my negativity in favor of "we'll see" so I wasn't all over people who love the team as much as I do with different opinions, overcompensated because I just love the team and the stupid sport, so I can sit around here and talk to people with an interest in one of my passions.

                        But I've been putting up with this stupid bull**** team through 46 years of my freaking life since I was a kid and try to justify it.

                        I wanted a goddam scorched earth policy too way the hell more than most people because I want to see 10 ****ing wins at least once more before I ****ing die whether or not it even gets them into the goddam playoffs.

                        I was one of those ****ing scorched earth people and I don't need anyone ****ing pointing it out to me looking at another ****ing rebuild that should take 2 years but will suck 5 more ****ing years out of my patience when I don't even know if I have them left.

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                        • Mr. Pink
                          Peterman Sucks!
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 35303

                          #13
                          Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                          The hockey team needs a scorched Earth policy too.

                          I don't think Pegula has it in him to do it. He comes off as a guy who cares too much and is way too nice to step up and take charge.

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                          • Turf
                            Registered User
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 8379

                            #14
                            Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post

                            But Pegula made the EXACT same mistakes he did with the Sabres. He believed the snake oil salesmen that the team was just a few tweaks from competing. Then the team mires in mediocrity for 2-3 years before he realizes that we have to break it down and start over.
                            Yep, exactly. And what did he just do, extend Whaley. And what did he just do several years ago before game one of the Sabres season, extended Darcy. And what did he do, fire Darcy. And what's he about to do, fire Rex and his brother.

                            The problem with Pegula in my distant analysis is that he makes friends with his people and enjoys daily interactions with his toy. He's the Mr Rogers of Jerry Jones if you will. And he likes that because it's his money, but he can't separate the professional from the result, even though he may be in part to blame.
                            I know Murray can back him off yet still wonder what happened with Lafontaine, probably something in this vein. I mean who wants be friends with Murray. Might be why Murray travels himself so much to get away from him.
                            Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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                            • cookie G
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 7573

                              #15
                              Re: Tim Graham hits it out of the park. Brandon and Whaley must go.

                              Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                              Brandon won't go anywhere, he's sold this crap product for 16 years now and the fans gobble this junk up. He's probably the only one in the organization that actually does his job properly as long as he stays out of the football side.

                              Whaley should go. I don't trust him to draft replacements for this crap show.
                              That's kinda like the guy who marries a whore and says, "my wife is great, as long as she doesn't sleep around on me."

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