If this is your first visit, be sure to
check out the FAQ by clicking the
link above. You may have to register
before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages,
select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.
All: The new Billszone site with the updated software is scheduled to be turned on Tuesday, May 21, 2024. The company that built it, Dynascale, estimates a FOUR HOUR shut down, from 8pm Pacific, (5pm Eastern) while they get it up and running. Nobody will be able to post in any forum until they are done. Afterwards, you may need to do a web search for the site, as old links will not work, because the site is getting a new IP address. Please be patient. If there are bugs, we will tackle them one at a time. Remember the goal is to be up and running with no glitches by camp. Doing this now assures us of that, because it gives us all summer to get our ducks in a row. Thank you!
There is work to be done and things to be learned. We are going to try to get the old look back - or something close to it. We also know there are bugs. A thread will be started to report bugs and then we can pass those onto the host.
Thank you for all the patience and support with this - hopefully this will greatly reduce the crashes and other site issues we have had lately.
Please use this thread to report any issues you come across
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/forum/feedback-forums/billszone-q-a/6521455-upgrade-report-bugs-here
The reports also say Whaley likely will remain GM for a fifth season. He has become a curious figure, a favorite of owner Terry Pegula in an organization where credit flows freely, but accountability often is escapable.
It was great he kept the team in Buffalo however I suspect he is also keeping the Bills from winning with his ineptitude.
Knowing how to frack and knowing how to run a successful professional sports organization are two radically different things.
His combined record for the Bills and Sabres since purchasing both must be some sort of record in futility.
I wish he would just stay in Florida unless he needs to go to the massage parlour where he met Kim and keep his hands directly off the team so we can all have a happy ending.
This. Until the fans realize that he's not a real Buffalo Bills fan, but rather just a casual one with a lot of money who bought the team as a toy, they will continue to get mad at figures like Rex Ryan, Doug Whaley, and Russ Brandon.
Pegula doesn't even know who Tony Greene, Merv Krakau, Ben Williams, Jerry Butler, Marlin Briscoe, Frank Lewis, Bobby Chandler, Lucius Sanford, Mario Clarke, or Sherman White, etc are.
This. Until the fans realize that he's not a real Buffalo Bills fan, but rather just a casual one with a lot of money who bought the team as a toy, they will continue to get mad at figures like Rex Ryan, Doug Whaley, and Russ Brandon.
Pegula doesn't even know who Tony Greene, Merv Krakau, Ben Williams, Jerry Butler, Marlin Briscoe, Frank Lewis, Bobby Chandler, Lucius Sanford, Mario Clarke, or Sherman White, etc are.
Pegula sucks at being owner. Get him out.
Here is a mind blower...
There was no chance Bon Jovi was going to own the Bills but what if Donald Trump did?
There was no chance Bon Jovi was going to own the Bills but what if Donald Trump did?
If that had happened, Trump would have started off by meeting with each and every person responsible for the Bills' perennial ineptitude. At which point he would have done this:
If anyone reading this thread is planning on reading just one article about Doug Whaley, this would be the one article to read. Graham makes a devastatingly effective case that Whaley needs to go. If one believes his article to be true--which 100% of it is--then it's easy to conclude that firing Whaley is more of a priority than getting rid of Rex Ryan.
Let's say the Bills fire Rex but keep Whaley. They start interviewing potential replacements for Rex, including some top shelf head coaching talent. Imagine yourself in the shoes of one of those top shelf head coaches. You look at the Bills' roster and you see the same failure to draft good talent that Tim Graham pointed out. You see that Whaley has failed to obtain a real quarterback. You see that Whaley wasn't fired, even though he clearly should have been. You read about the time Whaley has (wisely) invested in schmoozing with the Pegulas. You realize that due to the organizational politics of the Bills, the head coach will be fired if the team fails to reach expectations. Whaley's and Brandon's jobs will of course be perfectly safe. You have every reason to believe that Whaley will be as incompetent going forward as he'd been in the past. You have no intention of being scapegoated as atonement for his sins. When the Bills call you and ask you to interview, you tell them thanks but no thanks. That's the way you'd expect a typical top shelf candidate to respond when a dysfunctional organization/incompetent front office asks him in for an interview.
If the better head coaching candidates aren't willing to come here because of Whaley, then that means your candidate pool will consist primarily of guys who are desperate. Guys who would accept a head coaching offer from almost anyone. Guys like Rex Ryan.
If anyone reading this thread is planning on reading just one article about Doug Whaley, this would be the one article to read. Graham makes a devastatingly effective case that Whaley needs to go. If one believes his article to be true--which 100% of it is--then it's easy to conclude that firing Whaley is more of a priority than getting rid of Rex Ryan.
Let's say the Bills fire Rex but keep Whaley. They start interviewing potential replacements for Rex, including some top shelf head coaching talent. Imagine yourself in the shoes of one of those top shelf head coaches. You look at the Bills' roster and you see the same failure to draft good talent that Tim Graham pointed out. You see that Whaley has failed to obtain a real quarterback. You see that Whaley wasn't fired, even though he clearly should have been. You read about the time Whaley has (wisely) invested in schmoozing with the Pegulas. You realize that due to the organizational politics of the Bills, the head coach will be fired if the team fails to reach expectations. Whaley's and Brandon's jobs will of course be perfectly safe. You have every reason to believe that Whaley will be as incompetent going forward as he'd been in the past. You have no intention of being scapegoated as atonement for his sins. When the Bills call you and ask you to interview, you tell them thanks but no thanks. That's the way you'd expect a typical top shelf candidate to respond when a dysfunctional organization/incompetent front office asks him in for an interview.
If the better head coaching candidates aren't willing to come here because of Whaley, then that means your candidate pool will consist primarily of guys who are desperate. Guys who would accept a head coaching offer from almost anyone. Guys like Rex Ryan.
Seriously. There's no coming back from this one. This is a dagger to the heart.
Tim Graham is on a roll. This is really smart, fact/stat based analysis and the conclusions are pretty irrefutable.
But Pegula and Brandon will ignore it. Unfortunately, Terry shares Ralph Wilson's most annoying characteristic. They both would rather lose with people with whom they're personally comfortable than win with volatile, talented, opinionated winners, like Saban, Polian, Butler and others. Apparently Whaley and Brandon give the Pegulas a great big case of the warm fuzzies, which insulates the GM and Team President form any type of accountability.
If anyone reading this thread is planning on reading just one article about Doug Whaley, this would be the one article to read. Graham makes a devastatingly effective case that Whaley needs to go. If one believes his article to be true--which 100% of it is--then it's easy to conclude that firing Whaley is more of a priority than getting rid of Rex Ryan.
Let's say the Bills fire Rex but keep Whaley. They start interviewing potential replacements for Rex, including some top shelf head coaching talent. Imagine yourself in the shoes of one of those top shelf head coaches. You look at the Bills' roster and you see the same failure to draft good talent that Tim Graham pointed out. You see that Whaley has failed to obtain a real quarterback. You see that Whaley wasn't fired, even though he clearly should have been. You read about the time Whaley has (wisely) invested in schmoozing with the Pegulas. You realize that due to the organizational politics of the Bills, the head coach will be fired if the team fails to reach expectations. Whaley's and Brandon's jobs will of course be perfectly safe. You have every reason to believe that Whaley will be as incompetent going forward as he'd been in the past. You have no intention of being scapegoated as atonement for his sins. When the Bills call you and ask you to interview, you tell them thanks but no thanks. That's the way you'd expect a typical top shelf candidate to respond when a dysfunctional organization/incompetent front office asks him in for an interview.
If the better head coaching candidates aren't willing to come here because of Whaley, then that means your candidate pool will consist primarily of guys who are desperate. Guys who would accept a head coaching offer from almost anyone. Guys like Rex Ryan.
This post is almost as damning as Tim Graham's column.
If anyone reading this thread is planning on reading just one article about Doug Whaley, this would be the one article to read. Graham makes a devastatingly effective case that Whaley needs to go. If one believes his article to be true--which 100% of it is--then it's easy to conclude that firing Whaley is more of a priority than getting rid of Rex Ryan.
Let's say the Bills fire Rex but keep Whaley. They start interviewing potential replacements for Rex, including some top shelf head coaching talent. Imagine yourself in the shoes of one of those top shelf head coaches. You look at the Bills' roster and you see the same failure to draft good talent that Tim Graham pointed out. You see that Whaley has failed to obtain a real quarterback. You see that Whaley wasn't fired, even though he clearly should have been. You read about the time Whaley has (wisely) invested in schmoozing with the Pegulas. You realize that due to the organizational politics of the Bills, the head coach will be fired if the team fails to reach expectations. Whaley's and Brandon's jobs will of course be perfectly safe. You have every reason to believe that Whaley will be as incompetent going forward as he'd been in the past. You have no intention of being scapegoated as atonement for his sins. When the Bills call you and ask you to interview, you tell them thanks but no thanks. That's the way you'd expect a typical top shelf candidate to respond when a dysfunctional organization/incompetent front office asks him in for an interview.
If the better head coaching candidates aren't willing to come here because of Whaley, then that means your candidate pool will consist primarily of guys who are desperate. Guys who would accept a head coaching offer from almost anyone. Guys like Rex Ryan.
Based on what he's done since Ryan came aboard, I'd see him as someone who can be manipulated by a coach with an agenda.
Based on what he's done since Ryan came aboard, I'd see him as someone who can be manipulated by a coach with an agenda.
But that's the problem.
Really? Because Whaley is said to be the source of these leaks. He's a weasel who's backstabbing the current coach (not that Rex needs any help greasing his own skids). This whole notion of "This teams has top level talent that's not being used correctly" is a giant pile of horse dung. And this column totally refutes it.
Really? Because Whaley is said to be the source of these leaks. He's a weasel who's backstabbing the current coach (not that Rex needs any help greasing his own skids). This whole notion of "This teams has top level talent that's not being used correctly" is a giant pile of horse dung. And this column totally refutes it.
Yeah...really.
Because only a complete moron would want to rebuild a defense that ranked 4th in yards and in points. And it is especially moronic for a guy who helped build the defense.
There is a finite amount of cap space and a finite amount of draft picks.
At last count, there are now 6 new starters on defense.
The past 5 highest draft selections over the past 2 years went to rebuilding this defense.
All because the coach they hired can only coach one way.
Do I blame him for the EJ pick?
Nope. He literally didn't have a QB, due ot the gross negligence of Bumbling Buddy...and he took the best of a bad class.. Idk..maybe he should have taken Tyler Bray or that guy who fizzled out in Tampa...Glennon or something.
Do I blame him for the year after?
Oh yeah. When you use 2 no. 1's to pick a WR when the QB you've taken has question marks is a dubious move at best.
Do I blame him for not drafting a QB in the past 2 years (Cardale Longshot nothwithstanding)?
Yeah, I do.
When Rex was crying, "I want a hamburger, no a cheeseburger, I want a milkshake..."
Someone should have been saying.."You'll get nothing and like it".
Tweet
Comment