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  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129

    Listened to WGR 550 this morning

    They were talking about the problems and it is the same thing I have been saying. The bills run first and def philosophy is flawed. Stop builiding the team around the qb and get the darn qb. Also your off needs to be pass orientated and hopefully the pegulas see that and if Whaley and Rex do not want to make change to that line of thinking then they need to go.
  • JoeyW3
    Registered User
    • Sep 2005
    • 14

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    Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

    I don't listen to WGR (I'm out of town and don't have the app) ... did they identify why the philosophy is flawed? Is this specific to Buffalo? Or, is the "run first, strong defense" philosophy no longer a fundamentally sound strategy in today's NFL? Has something changed (ex. defensive rules) that makes the NFL no longer suitable for this strategy?

    I'm just curious about their analysis and what's leading them (WGR) to this stance.
    Last edited by JoeyW3; 12-19-2016, 10:13 AM.

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    • justasportsfan
      Registered User
      • Jul 2002
      • 71601

      #3
      Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

      Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
      They were talking about the problems and it is the same thing I have been saying. The bills run first and def philosophy is flawed. Stop builiding the team around the qb and get the darn qb. Also your off needs to be pass orientated and hopefully the pegulas see that and if Whaley and Rex do not want to make change to that line of thinking then they need to go.
      Ground and pound has it's limits when A) your quarterback isn't making the opponents D pay when they play to stop the run and are able to B) your D isn't Seattle/Denver SB good.
      sacrifice1
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      • feldspar
        Registered User
        • Mar 2007
        • 13620

        #4
        Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

        Originally posted by JoeyW3 View Post
        I don't listen to WGR (I'm out of town and don't have the app) ...
        You don't need the app.

        You can still listen to it live on their website from a mobile device or PC, but it's better to listen to the "on demand audio." They archive their broadcasts, so you can pretty much listen to any recent sports program here :



        It's better to listen to it on demand a tad bit later, because the commercials are gone, and you can fast forward past things that don't interest you.

        I'll listen to it sometimes on my iPad for background noise when I'm doing something else.

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        • ghz in pittsburgh
          Registered User
          • Aug 2004
          • 5861

          #5
          Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

          Philosophy is easy, but execution is hard. How to get that QB? I don't have time to dig data. But if you look at average years for a team to get that QB, I'll bet probably over 10 years.

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          • WagonCircler
            Escaped Convict
            • Jul 2002
            • 5876

            #6
            Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

            Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
            Ground and pound has it's limits when A) your quarterback isn't making the opponents D pay when they play to stop the run and are able to B) your D isn't Seattle/Denver SB good.
            Plus, it makes it almost impossible to come from behind and win games. If your Defense isn't the 1985 Bears, you're going to fall behind, and if your Offense isn't geared to scoring points quickly, you're fuct.

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            • DesertFox24
              Registered User
              • Jul 2005
              • 2129

              #7
              Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

              Originally posted by JoeyW3 View Post
              I don't listen to WGR (I'm out of town and don't have the app) ... did they identify why the philosophy is flawed? Is this specific to Buffalo? Or, is the "run first, strong defense" philosophy no longer a fundamentally sound strategy in today's NFL? Has something changed (ex. defensive rules) that makes the NFL no longer suitable for this strategy?

              I'm just curious about their analysis and what's leading them (WGR) to this stance.
              Basically the problem is the qb position, whether they have beaten into TT to not turnover the ball or his inability to throw with anticipation. We have Sammy, Robert, Clay and they are under utilized and if you look at playoff teams they have a passing offense that you have to gameplan for. We do not have that one bit.

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              Originally posted by feldspar View Post
              You don't need the app.

              You can still listen to it live on their website from a mobile device or PC, but it's better to listen to the "on demand audio." They archive their broadcasts, so you can pretty much listen to any recent sports program here :



              It's better to listen to it on demand a tad bit later, because the commercials are gone, and you can fast forward past things that don't interest you.

              I'll listen to it sometimes on my iPad for background noise when I'm doing something else.
              This is what I do as well since I live in Reno Nevada

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              • WagonCircler
                Escaped Convict
                • Jul 2002
                • 5876

                #8
                Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                This is what I do as well since I live in Reno Nevada
                Reno?

                I shot a man in Reno...

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                • DesertFox24
                  Registered User
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 2129

                  #9
                  Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                  Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
                  Reno?

                  I shot a man in Reno...
                  Just to see him die....

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                  • Mr. Pink
                    Peterman Sucks!
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 35303

                    #10
                    Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                    Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                    Just to see him die....
                    When I hear that whistle blowin...

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                    • WagonCircler
                      Escaped Convict
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 5876

                      #11
                      Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                      Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                      When I hear that whistle blowin...
                      ...I hang may head and cry.

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                      • feldspar
                        Registered User
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 13620

                        #12
                        Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                        You shoot a boy named Sue?

                        He's been everywhere, man.

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                        • ParanoidAndroid
                          My battery is low and it's getting dark.
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 16862

                          #13
                          Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                          Pass first, run first, ground and pound, dink and dunk..... it's all bull****. If your offense doesn't have the versatility to switch gears, you don't have an NFL offense. Tyrod is limited as an NFL QB. He rarely anticipates and rarely reads a defense, but, most importantly, he can't make a defense pay for stacking the box.

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                          • Swiper
                            Legendary Zoner
                            • Sep 2010
                            • 33105

                            #14
                            Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                            Originally posted by DesertFox24 View Post
                            They were talking about the problems and it is the same thing I have been saying. The bills run first and def philosophy is flawed. Stop builiding the team around the qb and get the darn qb. Also your off needs to be pass orientated and hopefully the pegulas see that and if Whaley and Rex do not want to make change to that line of thinking then they need to go.

                            Well what you're saying is wrong. Just because some bonehead on WGR trumpets an opinion it means nothing. Running the ball in cold weather is the way to go. It opens up the option of true play option. If you understand what that is. Eli Manning was on the radio here talking about the need for the run here today. He pointed out that when you line up 5 wide it fools no one. However when you line up with 2 wideouts, a TE, and backs in the backfield the defense doesn't know what play you're going to run. It's football 101. I guess you missed that course. Anybody touting a pass-first offense in Buffalo must have been asleep during the Ryan Fitzpatrick tenure as a Bill. He rocked in September weather and slowly slid to suck as it got cold.

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                            • WagonCircler
                              Escaped Convict
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 5876

                              #15
                              Re: Listened to WGR 550 this morning

                              Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                              You shoot a boy named Sue?

                              He's been everywhere, man.
                              Yeah. I had the Cocaine Blues.

                              I can't forget the day I shot that bad ***** down.

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