Tom Brady's Passing Yardage 2001-2004

[BillsImpossible]

Keep in mind that these passing statistics won 3 Super Bowls.

The NFL is not a passing league.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/gamelogs?season=2001

In his first year as a starter after Mo Lewis crushed Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady threw for more than 300 yards only twice.

In Brady's first Super Bowl victory in New Orleans, he threw for 145 yards, and 1 TD.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/gamelogs?season=2002

In 2002 the Patriots finished 9-7 but failed to make the playoffs. Brady threw for over 300 yards 3 times.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/gamelogs?season=2003

In 2003 the Patriots won the Super Bowl again, but it wasn't Tom Brady's arm that got them to Houston.

Brady's passing record from 2003 looks like something out of Matt Cassel's career stats.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/gamelogs?season=2004

In 2004 the Patriots won another Super Bowl, and Brady threw for over 300 yards only 2 times all season.

Brady passed for 236 yards against the Eagles and won his third Super Bowl ring in Jacksonville.

In his first 4 years as a starter, Tom Brady passed for over 300 yards only 10 times out of 72 games including the playoffs and won 3 Super Bowls.

Brett Favre passed for a lot of yards, but only has 1 ring.

Peyton Manning would only have 1 ring today if it weren't for a good running game and damn good defense.

Why does Eli Manning have 2 rings in a league that is supposedly dominated by the pass?

If the NFL is such the "passing league," as many suppose it is, then why don't Dan Marino, Philip Rivers, Matt Ryan and Jay Cutler have rings?

The Ravens have 2 Super Bowl wins, and the Steelers have 6.

Just for the hell of it, let's look at Ben Roethlisberger's "prolific," passing stats from 2005 and 2008 when the Steelers won the Super Bowl.

http://www.nfl.com/player/benroethlisberger/2506109/gamelogs?season=2005

In Super Bowl 40, Ben Roethlisberger completed 9 out of 21 attempts for 123 yards, 0 TD's, 2 Int's and won.

Yes, that really happened.

http://www.nfl.com/player/benroethlisberger/2506109/gamelogs?season=2008

In 2008, Big Ben finished the regular season with a 59.9% completion percentage, 3,301 yards, 17 TD's and 15 Int's.

Super Bowl Champions!

[Mace]

Thing is though, Imp and you know I always respect your perspective, is that Brady and Roethlisberger this millennium have less than 100 wins fewer than the Bills franchise has in 56 years.

[BillsImpossible]

Thing is though, Imp and you know I always respect your perspective, is that Brady and Roethlisberger this millennium have less than 100 wins fewer than the Bills franchise has in 56 years.

Did those wins for the Steelers and Patriots come from the air, or from the ground offense and pound defense?

I think the Steelers, Patriots, Giants, Ravens and Seahawks seem to think the later.

A pass first league sounds sexy to fans, but the big passing numbers seldom delivers the Lombardi hardware.

[Mace]

Did those wins for the Steelers and Patriots come from the air, or from the ground offense and pound defense?

I think the Steelers, Patriots, Giants, Ravens and Seahawks seem to think the later.

A pass first league sounds sexy to fans, but the big passing numbers seldom delivers the Lombardi hardware.

Well, I know you appreciate the value of a good Trebuchet to get you past the pesky bronze age axemen, Imp. Those axemen will annoy crap out of you in a steady stream, but if you made it to a Trebuchet, you don't want to be the guy cranking out axemen. It just never ends well. It's better to start wiping people out than ineffectively annoy them when it comes down to it. I mean you might have been annoyed but they have a worse won lost record and you generally feel much better about yourself after savaging them in a manner they cannot respond to. The Bills are the bronze aged axemen, Imp, being pelted with trebuchets as they attempt to trundle along into battle.

[GreedoII]

The NFL was different even then from what it is now. That was still before the rule changes affected offense. So NE played as the NFL rules dictated just as they are now with Brady throwing for 385 a week. So this thread is dumb

[The Jokeman]

Keep in mind that these passing statistics won 3 Super Bowls.

The NFL is not a passing league.

http://www.nfl.com/player/tombrady/2504211/gamelogs?season=2001

In his first year as a starter after Mo Lewis crushed Drew Bledsoe, Tom Brady threw for more than 300 yards only twice.

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You could have stopped after this as Tyrod hasn't thrown for more than 300 yards in a single game yet.

[Mike13]

The NFL is not a passing league.

Yes it is.

[Joe Fo Sho]

"Today's NFL is not a passing league"

*shows statistics from 15 years ago*



Defense wins championships, but only if you have a competent QB who can make throws when if and when he needs to. We don't have either of those things, a defense or a QB.

[The Jokeman]

"Today's NFL is not a passing league"

*shows statistics from 15 years ago*



Defense wins championships, but only if you have a competent QB who can make throws when if and when he needs to. We don't have either of those things, a defense or a QB.

Exactly, this is what makes Eli Manning an above average QB.

[EDS]

In 2002, Tom Brady was 6th in the NFL in passing yards. In 2016, Tyrod Taylor is 27th.

[Joe Fo Sho]

In 2002, Tom Brady was 6th in the NFL in passing yards. In 2016, Tyrod Taylor is 27th.

27th - Tyrod Taylor (14 games started)
28th - Ryan Fitzpatrick (10 games started)
29th - Case Keenum (9 games started)
30th - Colin Kaepernick (9 games started)
31st - Brian Hoyer (5 games started)
32nd - Cody Kessler (8 games started)


Tyrod is dead last if you only count players who have started every game this year. How many of those teams won the Superbowl with the worst starting QB in the league?

[BillsFanCupp38]

Is this an argument for keeping Tyrod Taylor? Let's face it these quarterbacks have grown substantially since the early 2000. League has gone from 1 from where the quarterback could just manage the game to being by far the best player on the field. In 25 games Tyrod Taylor is not made the progress of these quarterbacks have made in their passing games. Only 10 300-yard passing games 1075 tries you say? Better to have 10 in a day when the passing game hadn't evolved like it has today then to have none at all.

[Generalissimus Gibby]

Impy, and only because you mentioned them. You trail by 6 with less than three minutes on the clock and you are penned inside your fifteen, who do you want in there at QB? Favre, Manning, Brady, or Rithlinsberger or do you want Taylor, EJ, Lewis, or Tuel?

[Bill Cody]

Any post that tries, however lamely, to compare Tom Brady and Tyrod Taylor is an imbecile post. Anyone with a set of eyeballs and a pulse should know that.

[WagonCircler]

The reality is, this is not an Offensive league. It's not a passing league? Ok, is it a rushing league, then? I'll answer for you. It is absolutely NOT a rushing league.

We had a Running Back (who shall remain nameless) who averaged 143 yards per game over the entire 1973 season. That's 43 years ago. That record still stands to this day.

The reality is that athletes keep getting bigger, stronger and faster, but not necessarily more skilled, which definitely benefits the Defensive side of the ball. The best big guys don't want to play on the OL. They want to make the big money and sack the QB. The smaller fast guys with less ball skills play in the Defensive backfield. Linebacker sized athletes don't really fit a specific position on Offense.

Elite Offensive players are harder to find. There's a smaller talent pool, so Defense dominates. The league would prefer otherwise, and they keep tweaking the rules to protect QBs, etc., but this reality isn't going to change anytime soon.

So, like many posters here have mentioned, an above average QB is like striking gold. Guys like Brady and Big Ben and even Eli have fists full of rings.

Seattle was a run heavy team with an above average QB and they still came up short.

Running teams don't win Super Bowls, and when they do, it's an anomaly. Just look at New England. They've had more generic backs than any team I can remember.

[The Jokeman]

The reality is, this is not an Offensive league. It's not a passing league? Ok, is it a rushing league, then? I'll answer for you. It is absolutely NOT a rushing league.

We had a Running Back (who shall remain nameless) who averaged 143 yards per game over the entire 1973 season. That's 43 years ago. That record still stands to this day.

The reality is that athletes keep getting bigger, stronger and faster, but not necessarily more skilled, which definitely benefits the Defensive side of the ball. The best big guys don't want to play on the OL. They want to make the big money and sack the QB. The smaller fast guys with less ball skills play in the Defensive backfield. Linebacker sized athletes don't really fit a specific position on Offense.

Elite Offensive players are harder to find. There's a smaller talent pool, so Defense dominates. The league would prefer otherwise, and they keep tweaking the rules to protect QBs, etc., but this reality isn't going to change anytime soon.

So, like many posters here have mentioned, an above average QB is like striking gold. Guys like Brady and Big Ben and even Eli have fists full of rings.

Seattle was a run heavy team with an above average QB and they still came up short.

Running teams don't win Super Bowls, and when they do, it's an anomaly. Just look at New England. They've had more generic backs than any team I can remember.

Yet what New England has been able to do is take advantage of Brady's quickness to read a defense and use throws to his RBs that gain 4-5 yards to replace having a true running game. Yet they usually also have the Gronk advantage as the guy is almost impossible to cover 1 on 1 the only exception might be Kim Chancelor.

[Mouldsie]

The Green Bay Packers literally are playing a WR at RB and it's making them much better

[Mouldsie]

If you're building a team in this league the formula isn't hard:

1) QB
2) DL/pass rushers
3) DB
4) OL (give me solid B's across the board, your weak link will always be exploited)
5) LB
6) TE
7) WR
8) RB

Don't even bother with a FB IMO. Blue chip talents can obviously change the order of importance (i.e. you want Luke Kuechly because he can cover like a DB)

[LarryBoy]

I think most teams would prefer to run, passing only to set up the run and when they have to.

That said what makes a great QB a great QB is the ability to pass when the opponent not only knows you are throwing but when you must throw.

Taylor does not have that ability on a constant basis.