Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

http://buffalonews.com/2016/12/20/vic-caruccis-bills-wake-call-maintain-continuity-obvious-move-promoting-lynn/

The key here is not so much of Whaley's input or position of power in OBD, but rather Pegulas' perception and deeper understanding of the Bills. I don't think Marrone quitting is a crisis to the owners - they just took over a team and anyone trying a power play like Marrone did is going to be met with what actually happened. It's easy for experienced business people like Terry. The 1st real crisis for Pegulas I see is the firing of Roman, in season, this year. And they acted by doing their own investigation of talking to everyone, especially the players. You can bet they solicited peoples' opinions on Rex in those private meetings.

Unless the Pegulas want to clean house and start all over, they will certainly keep on what they publicly stated continuity and the answer is Lynn. Lynn is not so well established but generally is viewed as a rising candidate in NFL. Everyone in OBD should have 1st hand knowledge how he works there.

It will be interesting to see what kind of philosophy he has in terms of defense, what kind of coaching changes he wants on defense. I don't believe he has ever worked on that side of the ball.

My feeling is the generally philosophy of running the ball and stop the run is not going to change with the current front office. Ironically for a defensive coach like Rex who hated nothing more than being run on at the helm. Rex's Bills ran the ball all over the place, but just could not stop the run. Had their run defense up to par, they could easily be in Miami's shoes heading into the final two weeks.

[Bill Cody]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

Unless the Pegulas want to clean house and start all over, they will certainly

CONTINUE TO LOSE

[EDS]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

If Whaley is staying there is no point in firing Rex.

[Ed]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

Lynn knows the players, the players know and like and respect him. He already has a good idea of what works and what doesn't with the current roster, and what changes he wants to see going forward. He is offensive-minded, which would be the logical type of replacement for the defensive-oriented Ryan. Lynn also is known for being strict and demanding with players, and detail-oriented, which is the exact opposite of Ryan's approach.

Strict, demanding, detail-oriented, but still well respected by his players. That works for me. I'm on the fence about a coaching change mostly because I expect to be thoroughly disappointed and don't want to see this team go back to being a 5-6 win team that spends the next few years just trying to get back to .500. I do really like Lynn though, so I'd at least be intrigued if he's the choice.

[The Jokeman]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

Strict, demanding, detail-oriented, but still well respected by his players. That works for me. I'm on the fence about a coaching change mostly because I expect to be thoroughly disappointed and don't want to see this team go back to being a 5-6 win team that spends the next few years just trying to get back to .500. I do really like Lynn though, so I'd at least be intrigued if he's the choice.

My only concern with Lynn is that he would keep Rex's QB Coach, WR coach who I think are bad coaches IMHO. He also might be willing to keep Thurman et all around too which means the defense won't be changed etc.

[Ed]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

My only concern with Lynn is that he would keep Rex's QB Coach, WR coach who I think are bad coaches IMHO. He also might be willing to keep Thurman et all around too which means the defense won't be changed etc.

I don't think I have an issue with the WR coach. I've only heard good things about him. I don't really know anything about the other position coaches. I assume that Lynn would want this to be his own team and not just take over a Rex staff. I'm also willing to bet that the FO would make it clear to him that they expect/want significant changes on D. I mean Thurman basically got demoted by Ryan during the season, so I doubt Lynn or anyone else would want him back. There will probably be some hold overs, but I would expect a new OC and DC at least.

[DraftBoy]

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I'm not opposed or sold on Lynn being the HC, but he needs to bring in his own people and not just hold over the majority of staff.

[ghz in pittsburgh]

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Strict, demanding, detail-oriented, but still well respected by his players. That works for me. I'm on the fence about a coaching change mostly because I expect to be thoroughly disappointed and don't want to see this team go back to being a 5-6 win team that spends the next few years just trying to get back to .500. I do really like Lynn though, so I'd at least be intrigued if he's the choice.

I concur. I watched Rex from afar until he becomes Bills coach. He can achieve good results with HOF guys like Lewis, Reed, Revis who are self motivated and dedicated. But he can't harness guys who need a kick in the a** once in a while. That's why his team has the reputation being undisciplined. A kyle Williams, McCoy can probably motivate themselves. But other talented guys Hughes, Marcel, Watkins really need to be coached hard, especially young ones like Marcel, Watkins, you get the feeling they don't know how to be a professional NFL player yet. A lot of it is the players themselves, but coaching would certainly help. Maybe that's why Whaley and Co. are frustrated with Rex.

[trapezeus]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

continuity for a team that continuously in the middle with no direction. what a scam.

[The Beef]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

Basically what TB did last year promoting th OC and canning Lovie.

Big difference though, they have a potential Franchise QB.

[trapezeus]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

the bills actually scored enough points in a lot of the games. some of it from defensive TD's or special team blocks. the issue is that the d isn't even close to stopping teams. I am not looking at any stats at the moment, but tell me the last time you saw a third and long and thought, yeah, we are getting the ball back here."

[The Jokeman]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

the bills actually scored enough points in a lot of the games. some of it from defensive TD's or special team blocks. the issue is that the d isn't even close to stopping teams. I am not looking at any stats at the moment, but tell me the last time you saw a third and long and thought, yeah, we are getting the ball back here."

Yet like with the Kgun offense sometimes just scoring points isn't enough. You also want to flip the field or milk the clock and sometimes the offense has struggled doing this in the 4th quarter.

[WagonCircler]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

Same as it ever was.

Same as it ever was.

[justasportsfan]

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I am not as down on Whaley than I am on Rex.

It seems to me that Whaley has brought in players that seem to fit Rex's scheme . We even drafted based on Rex's needs. Ragland and Lawson were definite picks for Rex.

Alexander, Brown, etc etc. are players he found on the streets that seem to have played well under Rex's scheme and yet why is Whaley getting faulted for the crappy performance of the D unit ?

[Mahdi]

Re: Finally a more plausible scenario of what might happen at OBD January 2.

I think this is a great idea...

If Rex Is Fired - This is what Should Happen