Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

[BillsImpossible]

Ryan Groy?

Mike Gillislee?

Justin Hunter?

Lorenzo Alexander?

Zach Brown?

Jerome Felton?

Cyrus Kouandjio?

Jerel Worthy?

Shady for Kiko?

Everybody says Whaley f'd up on EJ Manuel, but few acknowledge it was Buddy Nix's choice.

The Sammy Watkins trade up was his biggest mistake, or is it not?

When Watkins is healthy, he's proven that he is an elite NFL wide receiver that can change a game.

What's your beef with Doug Whaley?

[Mace]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

He's a pro personnel director not a GM.

[YardRat]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

It's a little easier to add up the free agent finds and overlook the misses just because of the sheer numbers that are brought in on a regular basis. The draft is a bigger target for criticism for the opposite reason. That being said, he does appear to have far more success with the pros than the rookies he brings in.

[TacklingDummy]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

All that's great, how about a QB?

[BillsImpossible]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

He's a pro personnel director not a GM.

In his first draft as GM, Whaley landed Watkins, Kouandjio, Preston Brown, and Seantrel Henderson.

In 2015, Whaley drafted Nick O'Leary, Karlos Williams, John Miller and Ronald Darby.

In 2016, Whaley drafted Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington, Cardale Jones, Jonathan Williams, Kolby Listenbee, and Kevon Seymour.

What more do you want?

[Mr. Pink]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

And who of those draft picks have so far shown worthy of their selection?

*crickets*

Exactly.

[WagonCircler]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

Ryan Groy?

Mike Gillislee?

Justin Hunter?

Lorenzo Alexander?

Zach Brown?

Jerome Felton?

Cyrus Kouandjio?

Jerel Worthy?

Shady for Kiko?

Everybody says Whaley f'd up on EJ Manuel, but few acknowledge it was Buddy Nix's choice.

The Sammy Watkins trade up was his biggest mistake, or is it not?

When Watkins is healthy, he's proven that he is an elite NFL wide receiver that can change a game.

What's your beef with Doug Whaley?

Other than Alexander, this is a list of run-of-the-mill, below replacement level NFL players.

And the McCoy for Kiko deal was no stroke of brilliance by Whaley. He answered the phone and said yes.

[BertSquirtgum]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

I think he's a great GM. Don't understand why some people hate him so much. It's Russ Brandon that's the real problem.

[WagonCircler]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

I think he's a great GM. Don't understand why some people hate him so much. It's Russ Brandon that's the real problem.

Really?

What section are your playoff tickets in?

Oh, wait...they're not going to the playoffs.

How about last year? No? The year before? The year before? The year before? No?

That's weird. Because a great GM would surely have a team in the playoffs after 5 years.

[The Jokeman]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

It's a little easier to add up the free agent finds and overlook the misses just because of the sheer numbers that are brought in on a regular basis. The draft is a bigger target for criticism for the opposite reason. That being said, he does appear to have far more success with the pros than the rookies he brings in.

and most drafts take three or four years to evaluate, how many drafts has Whaley been the GM on? Oh yeah just two.

[swiper]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

In his first draft as GM, Whaley landed Watkins, Kouandjio, Preston Brown, and Seantrel Henderson.

In 2015, Whaley drafted Nick O'Leary, Karlos Williams, John Miller and Ronald Darby.

In 2016, Whaley drafted Shaq Lawson, Reggie Ragland, Adolphus Washington, Cardale Jones, Jonathan Williams, Kolby Listenbee, and Kevon Seymour.

What more do you want?

Nick O'Leary is a hot pile of crap. You lose again.

[The Jokeman]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

Nick O'Leary is a hot pile of crap. You lose again.

O'Leary is what he is, a depth TE. Tell me which TE drafted after him that's performed significantly better that we passed on?


11 6 18 194 Nick O'Leary Bills Florida State
12 6 19 195 Malcolm Johnson Browns Mississippi State
13 6 22 198 Randall Telfer Browns USC
14 6 26 202 A.J. Derby Patriots Arkansas
15 6 37 213 Kennard Backman Packers Alabama-Birmingham
16 7 12 229 Ben Koyack Jaguars Notre Dame
17 7 29 246 Geoff Swaim Cowboys Texas
18 7 37 254 Rory 'Busta' Anderson 49ers South Carolina
19 7 39 256 Gerald Christian Cardinals Louisville

[swiper]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

Other than Alexander, this is a list of run-of-the-mill, below replacement level NFL players.

And the McCoy for Kiko deal was no stroke of brilliance by Whaley. He answered the phone and said yes.

This. Anyone who sees Whaley as being a competent GM is just plain lost. Those in this thread sum that up well.

[swiper]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

O'Leary is what he is, a depth TE. Tell me which TE drafted after him that's performed significantly better that we passed on?


11 6 18 194 Nick O'Leary Bills Florida State
12 6 19 195 Malcolm Johnson Browns Mississippi State
13 6 22 198 Randall Telfer Browns USC
14 6 26 202 A.J. Derby Patriots Arkansas
15 6 37 213 Kennard Backman Packers Alabama-Birmingham
16 7 12 229 Ben Koyack Jaguars Notre Dame
17 7 29 246 Geoff Swaim Cowboys Texas
18 7 37 254 Rory 'Busta' Anderson 49ers South Carolina
19 7 39 256 Gerald Christian Cardinals Louisville

That is an abjectly stupid reply. Are you ******ed? There are many, MANY, better free agent options available at low cost. Please. And the Patriots are still laughing at Whaley for not resigning Hogan.

Your argument is like the Bills waiting until they had lost Fitzpatrick and had NO Qb before they went out shopping for one. Stupid. Stupid. Stupid.

[Forward_Lateral]

Re: Give Doug Whaley Some Credit

Who's the starting safeties again? Who's the QB? TE? I could continue, if you want.

So, no, Whaley doesn't get any credit from me, because he gets zero blame for the state of the franchise. He wears Teflon underwear, and it makes me sick.