Tyrod Taylor having surgery

[Strongman]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/05/tyrod-taylor-having-groin-surgery-which-could-be-bad-for-bills/

If you think Obamacare is expensive, wait until you see the hospital bill the Bills may be about to get.

Via Nick Veronica of the Buffalo News, Taylor posted pictures on himself in a surgical gown on a hospital bed on his Snapchat account this morning.

That’s a pretty clear signal he’s having some degree of groin surgery, which could complicate many things for the Bills as they look for a new head coach.

*Sorry for the typo in the title. Dang autocorrect. Would a mod please fix.

[Bill Cody]

omg

[Forward_Lateral]

LOL.

This is awesome. I am actually hoping the Bills are on the hook for 30 million. Then maybe things will change.

[Zero]

Grabbing my popcorn cuz this is gonna get real good

[BertSquirtgum]

Stupid. He wouldn't have been able to run the way he ran if he was injured. What a liar.

[DraftBoy]

Wait a second...Per "real sources" this can't possibly happen...

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/236027-Tyrod-can-t-have-random-surgeries-amp-Bills-will-trade-for-Romo

[DraftBoy]

Taylor will need to pass a physical by March 10th in order for the Bills to avoid his injury guarantee. Any move to release him before them without a passed physical would automatically trigger the injury clause.

[Bill Cody]

Amazing. So the Bills figured out that they want to walk away from Taylor, Taylor knows he won't get that deal anywhere else so he's going to fail the physical. This tells you all you need to know about the Buffalo Bills. This team is DOOMED.

[Zero]

Wait as second...Per "real sources" this can't possibly happen...

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/236027-Tyrod-can-t-have-random-surgeries-amp-Bills-will-trade-for-Romo



Does ESPN count as a real source?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18413003/buffalo-bills-say-qb-tyrod-taylor-elected-groin-surgery

[Scumbag College]

If he can't pass a physical on 3/10, does this mean that his contract is null and void and the Bills are on the hook for all that money?

Or is it a "you break it, you buy it" situation and he's automatically a Bill for the next few years once he passes a physical after 3/10?

Either way, this is a cluster**** of a situation for an organization that's already a joke.

[Forward_Lateral]

Amazing. So the Bills figured out that they want to walk away from Taylor, Taylor knows he won't get that deal anywhere else so he's going to fail the physical. This tells you all you need to know about the Buffalo Bills. This team is DOOMED.
Doomed by it's own hand.

[DraftBoy]

Does ESPN count as a real source?

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18413003/buffalo-bills-say-qb-tyrod-taylor-elected-groin-surgery

I was being tongue in cheek, since the poster who made that thread said Taylor couldn't have elective surgery per his "real sources".

[Victor7]

The Bills were informed late last night about the procedure that was going to take place in the morning. That is some organized team ins't it ??? .... Dudes didn't even know what was happening. I also found the wording on the Bills official statement to be interesting. Anybody else ?? .... It says Taylor ELECTED to have the surgery. Elected. Not needed, elected. Seems to me like the team is trying to distance itself from the decision.

I also wonder how that physical on March 10 is conducted. I mean for starters our ******ed bush league medical/athletic staff will be conducting it. Then how do we know that Taylor won't be dogging it to get paid ? He sure as **** never looked injured running all the time.

I ****ing hate how poorly run this team is.

[DraftBoy]

If he can't pass a physical on 3/10, does this mean that his contract is null and void and the Bills are on the hook for all that money?

Or is it a "you break it, you buy it" situation and he's automatically a Bill for the next few years once he passes a physical after 3/10?

Either way, this is a cluster**** of a situation for an organization that's already a joke.

There seems to be some confusion on this. Based on Buffalo Rumblings: If he fails the physical and the Bills cut him they owe him $27.5 million. If he fails the physical but they keep him they only owe him what his 2017 option was worth (roughly $15 million).

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2016/12/29/14116866/tyrod-taylor-injury-understanding-the-injury-only-guarantee-clause-in-buffalo-bills-contract

[DraftBoy]

The Bills were informed late last night about the procedure that was going to take place in the morning. That is some organized team ins't it ??? .... Dudes didn't even know what was happening. I also found the wording on the Bills official statement to be interesting. Anybody else ?? .... It says Taylor ELECTED to have the surgery. Elected. Not needed, elected. Seems to me like the team is trying to distance itself from the decision.

I also wonder how that physical on March 10 is conducted. I mean for starters our ******ed bush league medical/athletic staff will be conducting it. Then how do we know that Taylor won't be dogging it to get paid ? He sure as **** never looked injured running all the time.

I ****ing hate how poorly run this team is.

Is the team saying that? It was reported last week that he was going to see this specialist about possibly needing core muscle surgery. So they may not have known the dates until now, but they certainly knew it was a possibility.

[Victor7]

Is the team saying that? It was reported last week that he was going to see this specialist about possibly needing core muscle surgery. So they may not have known the dates until now, but they certainly knew it was a possibility.

I'm going by a Joe Buscaglia tweet. He's the one that said the team was informed late last night.

[Mahdi]

Amazing. So the Bills figured out that they want to walk away from Taylor, Taylor knows he won't get that deal anywhere else so he's going to fail the physical. This tells you all you need to know about the Buffalo Bills. This team is DOOMED.

I don't think Taylor is trying to cheat his way to the injury clause.

If he wanted to do that he would have delayed the surgery a few weeks to ensure he had no chance at passing a physical in March.

If he really wanted to be a snake about it, he could have started rehab in hopes of fixing his groin, then opted for surgery after a few weeks of rehab. Then he would surely not pass a physical until April at the earliest.

Tyrod is doing what he should do, take care of his body and ensure that he is healthy enough to pass a physical when he enters FA, if Buffalo is dumb enough to cut him loose that is.

[djjimkelly]

Stupid. He wouldn't have been able to run the way he ran if he was injured. What a liar.

ive had core muscle surgery it only effects heavy lifting if its a small tear running isnt effected.

[Mahdi]

The Bills were informed late last night about the procedure that was going to take place in the morning. That is some organized team ins't it ??? .... Dudes didn't even know what was happening. I also found the wording on the Bills official statement to be interesting. Anybody else ?? .... It says Taylor ELECTED to have the surgery. Elected. Not needed, elected. Seems to me like the team is trying to distance itself from the decision.

I also wonder how that physical on March 10 is conducted. I mean for starters our ******ed bush league medical/athletic staff will be conducting it. Then how do we know that Taylor won't be dogging it to get paid ? He sure as **** never looked injured running all the time.

I ****ing hate how poorly run this team is.

The wording is irrelevant. Tyrod was given a recommendation from a notable doctor that he needed surgery to repair his groin/hernia.

Elected only means that he opted for surgery rather than a lengthy and possibly ineffective rehab process. And my experience with this type of injury is that it typically requires surgery prior to rehab.

[Victor7]

The wording is irrelevant. Tyrod was given a recommendation from a notable doctor that he needed surgery to repair his groin/hernia.

Elected only means that he opted for surgery rather than a lengthy and possibly ineffective rehab process. And my experience with this type of injury is that it typically requires surgery prior to rehab.

To each their own mahdi .... I think the word elected was put there completely on purpose to make it seem like the team wasn't 100% on board.

Some of the Buffalo reporters I follow on twitter seem to think so as well.

[The Jokeman]

Stupid. He wouldn't have been able to run the way he ran if he was injured. What a liar.

and "the job was taken away from me" comments don't help his case either. He might be injured but not injured enough that couldn't play am sure that's why the Bills went on record to say he was sitting as a "business decision" and not because of injury. The Bills know what they are doing on this one.

[Mahdi]

To each their own mahdi .... I think the word elected was put there completely on purpose to make it seem like the team wasn't 100% on board.

Some of the Buffalo reporters I follow on twitter seem to think so as well.

I agree that the wording is not great but contractually I don't think it matters.

Taylor either passes or doesn't pass a physical in March.

[Victor7]

I agree that the wording is not great but contractually I don't think it matters.
Agreed.

Taylor either passes or doesn't pass a physical in March.
I still wonder about that one ..... Can Taylor fake it ? Do we really trust our inept staff ?

[Mr. Pink]

There seems to be some confusion on this. Based on Buffalo Rumblings: If he fails the physical and the Bills cut him they owe him $27.5 million. If he fails the physical but they keep him they only owe him what his 2017 option was worth (roughly $15 million).

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2016/12/29/14116866/tyrod-taylor-injury-understanding-the-injury-only-guarantee-clause-in-buffalo-bills-contract

According to Sportrac 30.25m of his contract is guaranteed if he's still on the roster as of the third league day of 2017. His base of 12m, the bonus of 15.5m and then 3.25m of his 2018 contract.

If he fails the physical, he'd still be on the roster then, so I'd say that 30.25m would be due to him.

[The Jokeman]

According to Sportrac 30.25m of his contract is guaranteed if he's still on the roster as of the third league day of 2017. His base of 12m, the bonus of 15.5m and then 3.25m of his 2018 contract.

If he fails the physical, he'd still be on the roster then, so I'd say that 30.25m would be due to him.

If Shaq Lawson's shoulder passed our initial physical am sure we can "make sure" Tyrod passes his. Again people are making a story about nothing.

[Buffalogic]

The elected versus required surgery is a fun wrinkle. None of this matters if he passes the physical though. The problem is the uncertainty with this is not exactly appealing to coaching candidates.

[DraftBoy]

According to Sportrac 30.25m of his contract is guaranteed if he's still on the roster as of the third league day of 2017. His base of 12m, the bonus of 15.5m and then 3.25m of his 2018 contract.

If he fails the physical, he'd still be on the roster then, so I'd say that 30.25m would be due to him.

Sorry I was using the cap hit numbers, the total amount is $30.25 but the roster bonus is amortized over multiple years.

[Mr. Pink]

Sorry I was using the cap hit numbers, the total amount is $30.25 but the roster bonus is amortized over multiple years.

Yeah, he'd count for 15.9 against the cap in 2017.

I'm unsure what would happen for 2018 as 3.25 of his contract will actually get paid to him if he fails the physical and has a cap hit of 16.7m but shows nothing as far as dead cap. So maybe his cap hit in 2018, if the Bills end up on the hook for the 15.9m, only ends up being the 3.25? Or maybe nothing? I dunno how that will all play out.

[Jimkelly12203]

The mismanagement of this franchise is truly something to behold.

We are a stupid team run by stupid people. To borrow from the president elect.

[DraftBoy]

Yeah, he'd count for 15.9 against the cap in 2017.

I'm unsure what would happen for 2018 as 3.25 of his contract will actually get paid to him if he fails the physical and has a cap hit of 16.7m but shows nothing as far as dead cap. So maybe his cap hit in 2018, if the Bills end up on the hook for the 15.9m, only ends up being the 3.25? Or maybe nothing? I dunno how that will all play out.

His contract contains two options, one for 2017 and one for 2018-2021. If the Bills pick up his option for 17 but cut him before the 18 option they only owe him the $3.25 guaranteed plus the prorated bonus number. If they pick up his option for 18 then his entire 18 salary becomes guaranteed.

There is no provision in the contract where Taylor has any guaranteed salary after 2018.

At least that is my understanding of the contract.

[Night Train]

Best of luck in his recovery and his next team.

Don't want him or Manuel back at all.