Player opens up about Rob Ryan

[Victor7]

Like I told everyone on this board the moment we signed that fat useless ****. Rob Ryan is a ****ing loser. Him being a good "defensive mind" is nothing short of complete and absolute bull****. His numbers are out for everyone to see. He has been a complete disaster most of his career. I still remember all the posters that called it a good move because and I quote ..... "It can't hurt to have another defensive mind"

**** the Ryan family

This #Bills player said that Rob Ryan -- not Rex -- was the problem. Rob was basically the team's DC in 2016. "He changed everything."

— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) January 6, 2017

Bills defensive player on Rob Ryan's D: "Players hated it. Everything we played was dictated off the offense. We had no identity."

— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) January 6, 2017

More from this #Bills player on D: "Rob ruined our whole defense. He took over everything. ... He confused us." Called it a "disaster."

— Tyler Dunne (@TyDunne) January 6, 2017

[YardRat]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Please choose from the following responses...

A) No ****
B) Duh
C) Yes, water is wet
D) I told you so

[Victor7]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Please choose from the following responses...

A) No ****
B) Duh
C) Yes, water is wet
D) I told you so

It may seem obvious to you but it wasn't for many. I'm too lazy to search and bring back the old thread but you'd be surprised as to how many thought it was a bright move.

[John Doe]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Was there that much difference in the results before and after Rob?

He ruined the defense? It was ruined the year before as well.

[Turf]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Meanwhile our front office can't say anything, just that we will spin it anyway we want to.

[Mace]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

It may seem obvious to you but it wasn't for many. I'm too lazy to search and bring back the old thread but you'd be surprised as to how many thought it was a bright move.

Nuance, hombre.

I despised Rob Ryan, but figured Rex might as well go all in with anything that might help his futile concept, so I thought it was a good idea because it gave the best chance for a bad scheme to work, without thinking it would really work.

[swiper]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Rob Ryan has failed everywhere.

[YardRat]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/232107-Rob-Ryan-to-join-Bills-staff

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/232134-Rob-is-Rex-Rex-is-Rob-We-re-doomed

One of my better posts, if I do say so myself...

Help me out here...

Barnum and Bailey?
Tweedle-Dee and Tweedle-Dumass?
Pinkie and The Brain?
The Ambiguously Meh Duo?

[kingJofNYC]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Why was it bad in 2015?

I mean, I'm sure Rob had his hand in this **** show, but D was **** for two years. Mike Pettine was Rex's glue on D.

[YardRat]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Pettine's defense wasn't much better than Wrecks', especially against the run. It was Wrecks-Lite.

[ICRockets]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

Pettine's defense wasn't much better than Wrecks', especially against the run. It was Wrecks-Lite.

It was significantly better against the pass, I'd argue. And that's been the knock on Rob's defense his entire career. Dallas' weakness? Their secondary. Saints' weakness? Their secondary. Our weakness? Well, the Ryan brothers together proved there's nothing you can't make worse when you combine the forces of stupid.

On the bright side, if you buy into the credo of Spaceballs, Rob and Rex Ryan are really, really good people.

[YardRat]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

It was significantly better against the pass, I'd argue. And that's been the knock on Rob's defense his entire career. Dallas' weakness? Their secondary. Saints' weakness? Their secondary. Our weakness? Well, the Ryan brothers together proved there's nothing you can't make worse when you combine the forces of stupid.

On the bright side, if you buy into the credo of Spaceballs, Rob and Rex Ryan are really, really good people.

It was 'better' against the pass, because teams didn't have to throw the ball they just ran it down our throats.

[Mace]

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Pettine's defense wasn't much better than Wrecks', especially against the run. It was Wrecks-Lite.

Pettine had them on a better track after 1 year of conversion to scheme than Pops Ryan did in 2. If you remember also they were more aggressive and unpredictable, and, they still had Donnie Henderson coaching DB's. Doesn't mean they were on par with Schwartz, but means Pettine even had more adaptability than Ryans did.

[kingJofNYC]

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Pettine's defense wasn't much better than Wrecks', especially against the run. It was Wrecks-Lite.

Bills D was #4 overall in DVOA under Pettine, so you're wrong. Sacked the qb, created turnovers, run D wasnt great but it was a top unit overall. You don't need to be that strong against the run to be a good unit, good teams pass the ball more than they run. Schwartz got the D to number#2 in dvoa.

[Mahdi]

Re: Player opens up about Rob Ryan

I actually thought at the time that bringing in Rob who was familiar with the system was a good move after the lack of understanding of the system in year 1.