then there's this... Leslie Frazier

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/01/12/leslie-frazier-linked-to-bills-defensive-coordinator-job/

[Mace]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ordinator-job/

Oh no no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Mace]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Oh the pain the pain...

In a world where more and more coordinators are moving to hybrid schemes like the one employed by Mike Zimmer, Frazier’s loyalty to the old Tampa-2 makes him appear increasingly prehistoric.

http://thevikingage.com/2015/01/12/leslie-frazier-may-already-done-dc-tampa-bay/

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

You can't teach a move to hybrid schemes.

[Mace]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Oh...the agony ....we just hired a disciple of a defense that went obsolete way before Ryan's obsolete defense.

[justasportsfan]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Dick Jaurons cover 2.

Bellicheat will be smiling in the inside as usual

[Mace]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Dick Jaurons cover 2.

Bellicheat will be smiling in the inside as usual

6 years dead and unmourned, back again for more frolic.

[paladin warrior]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Oh no no NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Ingtar33]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

I'm not surprised, McDermott's defense was always a Tampa-2 style defense (not a pure t-2, but it used the same basic ideas).

[Mace]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

I'm not surprised, McDermott's defense was always a Tampa-2 style defense (not a pure t-2, but it used the same basic ideas).

Tampa-2 (the base) uses small lb's to swarm to the ball as philosophy with DB's providing run support if you remember Jauron's, McDermott's defense was not like that at all. It used cover-2 (coverage package) formations, but all teams do. McDermott actually varied his base scheme to available players.

[Goobylal]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Tampa-2 (the base) uses small lb's to swarm to the ball as philosophy with DB's providing run support if you remember Jauron's, McDermott's defense was not like that at all. It used cover-2 (coverage package) formations, but all teams do. McDermott actually varied his base scheme to available players.

And that's what he'll do in Buffalo.

[POTLAND PSILBYLO]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Aaron F. Maybin

[Mace]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

And that's what he'll do in Buffalo.

Jauron ? Did you even vaguely notice no teams use Tampa-2 anymore ? Like I said, or maybe you weren't paying attention, McDermott wasn't hired as DC, he hired a Tampa-2 guy to do this, yes ? You seem to get confused awful easy in your "points".

[Goobylal]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Jauron ? Did you even vaguely notice no teams use Tampa-2 anymore ? Like I said, or maybe you weren't paying attention, McDermott wasn't hired as DC, he hired a Tampa-2 guy to do this, yes ? You seem to get confused awful easy in your "points".

Yes I've noticed no teams use the Tampa-2 anymore. Neither will the Bills. I mean, can you point to anyone or anywhere (besides you) talking about the Bills playing a Tampa-2 now? Don't worry, I'll wait.

[Night Train]

Re: then there's this... Leslie Frazier

Yes I've noticed no teams use the Tampa-2 anymore. Neither will the Bills. I mean, can you point to anyone or anywhere (besides you) talking about the Bills playing a Tampa-2 now? Don't worry, I'll wait.

This

My guess is McDermott hired someone he worked with and respects on and off the field to run his Carolina D. Easy and I guess lazy to connect the dots with Frazier and the Tampa 2.

Frazier played in the 46 D under Buddy Ryan. He then coached in a different D under Jim Johnson in Philly, while McDermott was there. That was the 4-3 set with the wide 9 look. Ring a bell, Schwartz lovers ? Frazier then learned the Tampa 2 and that ran it's course.

McDermott isn't some Offense oriented coach who is clueless about defense and looking for some DC to run their scheme and pray for the best. The Tampa 2 isn't all Frazier knows. History shows he knows the 4-3 Wide 9 and plenty more. McDermott is the HC and has a D he runs.

Let's give this a chance before playing taps in mid-January. Insane.