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  • jamze132
    Registered User
    • Jun 2003
    • 29290

    First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

    I'm praying that we don't run a Tampa 2 but it's looking like it...

    What could possibly go wrong?
  • sudzy
    Registered User
    • Apr 2013
    • 2802

    #2
    Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

    I feel like we've been here before.

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    • Swiper
      Registered User
      • Sep 2010
      • 33105

      #3
      Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

      It's Jauron repeat until it's not.

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      • Night Train
        Retired - On Several Levels
        • Jul 2005
        • 33117

        #4
        Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

        Leslie Frazier has said that his defensive philosophy for the Buccaneers is very much in line with the Lovie Smith defense. But what does Frazier's Minnesota defense tell us about his defensive schemes and ideals?


        I believe McDermott hired someone he knew from his Philly days and stayed close to over the years. Assuming he's tossing away his D scheme and handing it to Frazier to run a base Tampa 2 doesn't seem realistic at all. Rushing to connect dots that might not be happening.

        I'm guessing Frazier remembers the Jim Johnson era of Defense in Philly like our HC and will know what McDermott wants. That's probably more or the reasoning for his hire. They trust their line of communication as friends who respect each other.

        McDermott is not some lost soul on D looking for a scheme. He has one. The Tampa 2 is not the only D Frazier has ever known. He ran with it for a while and will take orders from his new coach.
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        • Goobylal
          Registered User
          • Jan 2004
          • 19367

          #5
          Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

          Did the Ravens run a Tampa-2 with Frazier there? Did the Jags run a Tampa-2 with Babich there? Use your brains people!

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          • OpIv37
            Acid Douching Asswipe
            • Sep 2002
            • 101230

            #6
            Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

            Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
            Did the Ravens run a Tampa-2 with Frazier there? Did the Jags run a Tampa-2 with Babich there? Use your brains people!
            You can't blame people for being skeptical. This organization hasn't earned the benefit of the doubt.
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            • DesertFox24
              Registered User
              • Jul 2005
              • 2129

              #7
              Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

              He said players dictate the scheme. I like hearing that as that is the first coach to say that since I do not know when. All of the previous coaches wanted to run their system but not let the players dictate it.

              That At said it is just words so until we see it next season we will
              ever know

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              • Mace
                Haha...yeah you think so ?
                • Mar 2013
                • 20315

                #8
                Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                Did the Ravens run a Tampa-2 with Frazier there? Did the Jags run a Tampa-2 with Babich there? Use your brains people!
                Try using yours. Frazier wasn't the DC like he will be here, and Babich wasn't working under a Tampa-2 guy like he will be here.

                Anyway, it will become more obvious, or not, if they hire more assistants from the Lovie Smith coaching tree,

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                • Goobylal
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 19367

                  #9
                  Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                  Originally posted by Mace View Post
                  Try using yours. Frazier wasn't the DC like he will be here, and Babich wasn't working under a Tampa-2 guy like he will be here.

                  Anyway, it will become more obvious, or not, if they hire more assistants from the Lovie Smith coaching tree,
                  They can hire all the assistants from the Lovie Smith coaching tree they want. Unless and until I hear them say they're moving to Tampa-2, they're not moving to a Tampa-2.

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                  • Mace
                    Haha...yeah you think so ?
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 20315

                    #10
                    Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                    Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                    They can hire all the assistants from the Lovie Smith coaching tree they want. Unless and until I hear them say they're moving to Tampa-2, they're not moving to a Tampa-2.
                    Fair enough. But if they say they are you can at least try to keep telling me maybe they won't because I'll be pretty upset.

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                    • BertSquirtgum
                      Registered User
                      • May 2009
                      • 13379

                      #11
                      Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                      My god. They are not going to be running the tampa-2 defense people. Get a grip.

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                      • Mace
                        Haha...yeah you think so ?
                        • Mar 2013
                        • 20315

                        #12
                        Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                        Originally posted by BertSquirtgum View Post
                        My god. They are not going to be running the tampa-2 defense people. Get a grip.
                        As soon as they don't hire a Lovie Smith DB coach and say they won't be running a Tampa-2 defense.

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                        • Goobylal
                          Registered User
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 19367

                          #13
                          Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                          Originally posted by Mace View Post
                          Fair enough. But if they say they are you can at least try to keep telling me maybe they won't because I'll be pretty upset.
                          Hey, if they say they're moving to a Tampa-2, I'll get out 2 pitchforks.

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                          • jamze132
                            Registered User
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 29290

                            #14
                            Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                            Just sayin'...

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                            • Ingtar33
                              Dances With Buffaloes
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 15469

                              #15
                              Re: First Time HC And An Obsolete Defense...

                              well McD's defense is just a modified version of the T-2 anyway.
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