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Buffalogic
01-15-2017, 08:38 AM
https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/820636979251515392

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swiper
01-15-2017, 08:47 AM
GeminiGirl ❤️Sports ‏@sara_larson 12m12 minutes ago

@RapSheet ugh. Childress doesn't even call plays in KC and Olson. Sorry but why hire ANY1 from Jags? Their offense less consistent than ours

This response is interesting.

I don't care for either. Why would you when you have Musgrave floating around out there? But I kind of trust the new HC to make the choice. He's been around long enough to know these guys pluses and minuses.

Buffalogic
01-15-2017, 08:53 AM
This response is interesting.

I don't care for either. Why would you when you have Musgrave floating around out there? But I kind of trust the new HC to make the choice. He's been around long enough to know these guys pluses and minuses.

Musgrave was hired by broncos

swiper
01-15-2017, 08:54 AM
Musgrave was hired by broncos

I thought they hired McCoy???

Night Train
01-15-2017, 08:56 AM
Childress called a good O in Minny. Whatever.

Everyone will be drinking the haterade until opening day anyhow.

swiper
01-15-2017, 08:56 AM
Wow. Elway got them both! I didn't know that.

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/news/broncos-mccoy-musgrave-offensive-coordinator-qbs-coach-raiders-chargers/h2hggcpaklhu1hst3ciq7j5do

Night Train
01-15-2017, 08:57 AM
I thought they hire McCoy???

They did. Musgrave was also hired as the QB coach.

swiper
01-15-2017, 08:57 AM
Childress called a good O in Minny. Whatever.

Everyone will be drinking the haterade until opening day anyhow.

I specifically don't want him for his time in Minnesota. Homers will see what they want to see, I guess.

Buffalogic
01-15-2017, 08:59 AM
I like the experience of the staff if it's childress. It's not a bunch of the coaches homies like the rex staff.

Let's pull a broncos and get Olson as QB coach.

swiper
01-15-2017, 09:10 AM
Brad Childress was head coach in Minnesota from 2006 to 2010. Enough of a trial period?

2006: 6 - 10; #23 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2006/seasontype/2)

2007: 8 - 8; #13 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2007/seasontype/2)

2008: 10 - 6; #17 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2008/seasontype/2)

2009: 12 - 4; #5 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2008/seasontype/2)

2010: 6 - 10; #23 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2010/seasontype/2)

Ok. Maybe I am wrong. I would be willing to give the guy a chance (not that my opinion matters). A lot of his success came from having Brett Favre in 2009 - 2010. But not all. I remember the Vikings fans giving him a hassle.


Partly due to frustration with the development of quarterback Tarvaris Jackson, the Vikings signed Brett Favre for the 2009 season. Favre joined to the team after a controversial courtship which included Childress picking him up at the airport.[11] Favre led the Vikings to a 12-4 season, losing to the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Championship Game.

DraftBoy
01-15-2017, 09:18 AM
Childress would be my preference. He's done a good job in KC working on their passing attack and has made Alex Smith look like a top 15 QB.

Also another guy with previous HC experience.

YardRat
01-15-2017, 09:27 AM
I'd be OK with Childress, I like the idea of previous experience as coordinators and head coaching being brought in. Assembling the 'best' or 'most qualified' staff from what's available is a helluva lot better than loading all of your clowns in the car and bringing them with you.

Turf
01-15-2017, 09:33 AM
I think its a bit comforting to know that McDermott will have his hands all over both sides of the playbook, unlike our previous coach who was watching the clock all day long and couldn't wait to get out.

DraftBoy
01-15-2017, 09:39 AM
Another thing about Childress is how he likes to use both the TE and RB's in the passing attack.

TE Kelce - 85 Rec, 1125 Yards, 4 TD
RB Ware - 33 Rec, 447 Yards, 2 TD
RB West - 28 Rec, 188 Yards, 2 TD

Night Train
01-15-2017, 09:51 AM
Another thing about Childress is how he likes to use both the TE and RB's in the passing attack.

TE Kelce - 85 Rec, 1125 Yards, 4 TD
RB Ware - 33 Rec, 447 Yards, 2 TD
RB West - 28 Rec, 188 Yards, 2 TD

That would indicate a new QB for the Bills this coming fall. TT could not locate the TE with mapquest.

YardRat
01-15-2017, 10:56 AM
If it does end up being Childress, it'll be interesting to see if the next step is acquiring Foles.

cookie G
01-15-2017, 12:00 PM
When Childress actually runs an offense, as opposed to holding Andy Reid's water bottle...his only success was based on having Brett Favre and AP in the same backfield.

If Andy Reid is coming with him, I could see it..but since he isn't...

He's in KC right now because he goes way back with Andy Reid, back to their NE Arizona St. Tech days.

swiper
01-15-2017, 01:32 PM
When Childress actually runs an offense, as opposed to holding Andy Reid's water bottle...his only success was based on having Brett Favre and AP in the same backfield.

If Andy Reid is coming with him, I could see it..but since he isn't...

He's in KC right now because he goes way back with Andy Reid, back to their NE Arizona St. Tech days.

Thank you for getting out what I tried and failed to do in post #10.

DynaPaul
01-15-2017, 01:40 PM
Childress or some up and comer.

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Childress or some up and comer.

The Jokeman
01-15-2017, 01:55 PM
If it does end up being Childress, it'll be interesting to see if the next step is acquiring Foles.

To me Foles is a good bridge/backup QB if we elect to take someone like Mahomes in Round 2 to develop with Cardale. I'd sign him to a two year deal.

YardRat
01-15-2017, 02:28 PM
When Childress actually runs an offense, as opposed to holding Andy Reid's water bottle...his only success was based on having Brett Favre and AP in the same backfield.

If Andy Reid is coming with him, I could see it..but since he isn't...

He's in KC right now because he goes way back with Andy Reid, back to their NE Arizona St. Tech days.
So who do you think they should bring in?

X-Era
01-15-2017, 04:32 PM
I want experience and the wide scheme/spread. Single back, multiple option, primary short and intermediate routes. If he will run that fine.

DraftBoy
01-15-2017, 05:13 PM
I want experience and the wide scheme/spread. Single back, multiple option, primary short and intermediate routes. If he will run that fine.

That's Kansas City's entire offense.

cookie G
01-15-2017, 05:36 PM
So who do you think they should bring in?

McCoy or bringing back Lynn were my first choices.

Since we're talking about lateral moves..

Tom Clements-GB;
Rob Chudzinski- Ind;
Ken Whisenhunt-LA Bolts.

Clements is the solid, sane choice.
Chudzinski has shown the ability to run either a run based offense (Caronlina) or a passed based offense (IND). And even though Carolina was a run based offense, Newton still threw for 400 yards. And damn..the guy had a top 10 offense with Derek Anderson.
Whisenhunt is a better OC than HC.

for the up and comer, off the grid choice, Sonny Crombie, TCU. Forget this past year, they lost nearly everyone on offense, either through leaving school or injury.

But if people want a fast paced, passing offense, he'll bring it. In his 1st year at TCU (2014), he improved their PPG by 20.

cookie G
01-15-2017, 06:05 PM
Brad Childress was head coach in Minnesota from 2006 to 2010. Enough of a trial period?

2006: 6 - 10; #23 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2006/seasontype/2)

2007: 8 - 8; #13 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2007/seasontype/2)

2008: 10 - 6; #17 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2008/seasontype/2)

2009: 12 - 4; #5 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2008/seasontype/2)

2010: 6 - 10; #23 in total offense (http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/year/2010/seasontype/2)

Ok. Maybe I am wrong. I would be willing to give the guy a chance (not that my opinion matters). A lot of his success came from having Brett Favre in 2009 - 2010. But not all. I remember the Vikings fans giving him a hassle.

How bad of a hassle?

they actually gave him an Urban Dictionary entry..

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Brad%20Childress


Brad Childress


Cluelessly inept football coach who cannot accept critisism in any form. Usually typified by arrogant snippets and lack of original thought.


The game, season, and franchise were lost due to the Brad Childress like behavior of the coach.

Mace
01-15-2017, 08:23 PM
I mentioned Childress before, but I don't really much like how this is going. They're not going to fish for a young guy, imho.

swiper
01-16-2017, 04:32 AM
McCoy or bringing back Lynn were my first choices.

Since we're talking about lateral moves..

Tom Clements-GB;
Rob Chudzinski- Ind;
Ken Whisenhunt-LA Bolts.

Clements is the solid, sane choice.
Chudzinski has shown the ability to run either a run based offense (Caronlina) or a passed based offense (IND). And even though Carolina was a run based offense, Newton still threw for 400 yards. And damn..the guy had a top 10 offense with Derek Anderson.
Whisenhunt is a better OC than HC.


Wouldn't those be lateral moves for each of those guys?

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How bad of a hassle?

they actually gave him an Urban Dictionary entry..

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Brad%20Childress


Brad Childress


Cluelessly inept football coach who cannot accept critisism in any form. Usually typified by arrogant snippets and lack of original thought.


The game, season, and franchise were lost due to the Brad Childress like behavior of the coach.

LOL.

YardRat
01-16-2017, 02:25 PM
http://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/1/16/14285682/greg-olson-interview-buffalo-bills-offensive-coordinator-job

Jeff1220
01-17-2017, 05:19 PM
I know waiting is a gamble, and some of these teams are in the playoffs, but why not look at some of the top offenses and hire a bright up and comer position coach? Atlanta, Dallas, Pittsburgh, NO, GB, etc. Heck, how about trying to steal someone away from NE? Why Brad Childress or/and anybody that's been in Jax? 🤢

zone
01-17-2017, 06:39 PM
It's worse then just being in Jacksonville.

Chicago Bears (2003)
Quarterbacks coach

Detroit Lions (2004–2005)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach

St. Louis Rams (2006–2007)
Offensive coordinator

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2008–2011)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach

Jacksonville Jaguars (2012)
Assistant head coach & quarterbacks coach

Oakland Raiders (2013–2014)
Offensive coordinator

Jacksonville Jaguars (2015-2016)
Offensive coordinator

Mr. Miyagi
01-17-2017, 10:28 PM
It's worse then just being in Jacksonville.

Chicago Bears (2003)
Quarterbacks coach

Detroit Lions (2004–2005)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach

St. Louis Rams (2006–2007)
Offensive coordinator

Tampa Bay Buccaneers (2008–2011)
Offensive coordinator & quarterbacks coach

Jacksonville Jaguars (2012)
Assistant head coach & quarterbacks coach

Oakland Raiders (2013–2014)
Offensive coordinator

Jacksonville Jaguars (2015-2016)
Offensive coordinator
Everywhere he's gone the O sucked

BertSquirtgum
01-18-2017, 03:16 AM
Why would Childress leave a good Chiefs team? And why would they let him leave?

swiper
01-18-2017, 05:22 AM
Why would Childress leave a good Chiefs team? And why would they let him leave?

He doesn't actually do much there. He's co-OC, and doesn't call plays.

kscdogbillsfan1221
01-18-2017, 04:19 PM
Well it looks like neither as Olson is heading to la and brad is going nowhere.

YardRat
01-18-2017, 04:23 PM
I'm beginning to think it may be Clements and/or AVP from Green Bay...or else we're running out of options and are going to be screwed.

Mouldsie
01-18-2017, 04:24 PM
Foles is awful....

I would be going after Chip Kelly tbh. I like AVP too, but Packers O is def great due to Rodgers and not scheme... but AVP has now been around the block a bit and may be ready

YardRat
01-18-2017, 04:32 PM
I didn't realize Clement was already 'Associate head Coach' in Green Bay so that probably eliminates him.

DraftBoy
01-18-2017, 04:37 PM
I still think its a bit odd that the offensive staff is being hired without an OC in place.

YardRat
01-18-2017, 04:45 PM
I still think its a bit odd that the offensive staff is being hired without an OC in place.

Kinda makes you wonder...I'll be OK with it if they've already got a guy in place and are just waiting for him to become available, getting his input/choices as they move along. Not OK with it if they are filling out the position coaches without knowing who the OC is going to be.

The Jokeman
01-18-2017, 04:46 PM
I still think its a bit odd that the offensive staff is being hired without an OC in place.

Unless we secretly interviewed someone on a playoff team whose contract expires and he's given McDermott a list of guys to pursue.

swiper
01-18-2017, 05:52 PM
I still think its a bit odd that the offensive staff is being hired without an OC in place.

That's going to make it hard to get someone with experience. It certainly is odd.

Mace
01-18-2017, 07:52 PM
I still think its a bit odd that the offensive staff is being hired without an OC in place.

Latest rumor everyone has probably heard is Brian Daboll from NE who shares a vague William&Mary tie with McDermott.

Mr. Miyagi
01-18-2017, 08:42 PM
I just don't understand the raiding of the Jacksonville offensive staff. Their running game is horrible, why do we want their RB coach and now Olson?

Mace
01-18-2017, 08:45 PM
I just don't understand the raiding of the Jacksonville offensive staff. Their running game is horrible, why do we want their RB coach and now Olson?

To spite Marrone.

DraftBoy
01-19-2017, 05:41 AM
I just don't understand the raiding of the Jacksonville offensive staff. Their running game is horrible, why do we want their RB coach and now Olson?

I think it's a little unfair to grade Kelly on just the Jaguars results this year.

In 2015 he helped Yeldon to over 700 yards rushing and over 1,000 total yards from scrimmage in only 12 games. He also worked in Oakland and was the only NFL coach who was ever able to maximize McFadden's talents when he got him 1,100 rushing yards and 500 passing yards in 2013 while playing in only 13 games.

Buffalogic
01-19-2017, 09:41 AM
We have an OC, we just can't announce him. As more offensive assistants get added, the more that seems to be the case.