Sal Capaccio Thinks The Bills Will Roll With Cardale Jones In '17

[BillsImpossible]

Anybody else hear what he had to say about the Bills QB situation this morning on WGR?

Sal said he thinks the Bills are likely to start Cardale Jones next year.

Doug Whaley did not draft EJ Manuel, Buddy Nix did.

The first QB Doug Whaley drafted as GM of the Buffalo Bills was Cardale Jones, right after Dak Prescott went off the board.

The Bills have 4 choices: Resign Taylor, let it roll with Jones, spend big $ on a free agent like Romo, or make a trade for a 35 year old Philip Rivers.

Signing Romo or Rivers is out of the question because Whaley made it known that the Bills are more interested in having a QB that can win for the next 10-15 years.

Restructuring Tyrod Taylor's contract is enticing, but at the same time it's not exactly the kind of move I would make to make the Bills a perennial playoff contender for the next decade plus.

I would rather roll with Cardale Jones in 2017 instead of continually feeding the stop gap frenzy that hasn't worked for 17 years.

If Jones fails, call it a tank job and the Bills draft in the top 5 in 2018.

I don't think that will be necessary. The Bills already have their future franchise QB.

[bdutton]

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[Mace]

Well, he also "broke" the news the Bills were after Daboll as OC.

[Mouldsie]

If so, the tank is on!

http://www.uclabruins.com/roster.aspx?rp_id=4121

http://www.usctrojans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/sam_darnold_971855.html

[Mouldsie]

Seriously, if you start Cardale you might as well trade someone like Richie Incognito while he has value.... prob let Gilmore and Lorenzo Alexander walk. Let Dareus go to rehab again. Keep Sammy Watkins on a snap count, trade McCoy, etc b/c you're not serious about winning games. And that might not be a bad thing if you cant get a real player like Rivers at QB.

[jamze132]

makes me think twice about renewing DIRECTV Sunday Ticket.

[jamze132]

Seriously, if you start Cardale you might as well trade someone like Richie Incognito while he has value.... prob let Gilmore and Lorenzo Alexander walk. Let Dareus go to rehab again. Keep Sammy Watkins on a snap count, trade McCoy, etc b/c you're not serious about winning games. And that might not be a bad thing if you cant get a real player like Rivers at QB.
If they did a complete rebuild, the winds of relocation would pick up.

[The Beef]

I've said it before, I think thisbis the best move. Trading for Romo may make this a playoff team, but there's so many holes you're praying Romo stays healthy and sacrificing picks to do it.

Tyrod, Foles, Glennon, Hoyer, Cutler etc. you're looking at 8-8.

Cardale is probably not the answer and you're looking at probably 3 - 5 wins. Unless you reallyblike a QB (I would prefer Mahomes in a trade down if they go that route) roll with Cardale.

You're likely sitting in the top 5 of the draft next year in a legit spot to land a Franchise QB.

You've gor about a 3% chance Cardale catches lightning in a bottle and this team miraculously wins 8-10 games. If that is the case, perhaps he's the right guy.

Shady does deserve better but it's mostly dead cap if you move him and I wouldn't move him for anything less than a 2nd. If it's a full on tank though, selling him for a couple of 4ths could happen. I don't think Pegs would sign off on that. Trading the best player since the Super Bowl uears isn't the message they are trying to sell to the fan base.

[k-oneputt]

Cardale won't last the season. If he thinks he's going to run over people like he did in college he won't make it to Oct.

[Night Train]

It's just " Coach Sal " talking.

It's January. Blind Lemming month.

[TacklingDummy]

makes me think twice about renewing DIRECTV Sunday Ticket.

Just get a firestick that's jail broke. Don't need cable, directv, Sunday ticket, just the internet.

[YardRat]

IMO they bring back Taylor, swing a trade/renegotiated contract for Cutler, or bring in a street free agent like Landry Jones or Brian Hoyer. Regardless I believe they draft another one to replace EJ.

[DynaPaul]

He must have been high when he said that. We're going to keep Tyrod and, YES, Whaley DID draft EJ Manuel!

[sukie]

Cardale won't last the season. If he thinks he's going to run over people like he did in college he won't make it to Oct.
How do you know he thinks that?

[kscdogbillsfan1221]

How do you know he thinks that?

Because he doesn't seem like the sharpest tool in the shed.

[jamze132]

Just get a firestick that's jail broke. Don't need cable, directv, Sunday ticket, just the internet.

Unfortunately I'll be working just about every Sunday afternoon next season so if I'm going to watch the game at work on my phone, I'll need to pay for DIRECTV ticket since I can stream it. They're supposed to add DVR functionality to mobile this season so we'll see.

[Mace]

Sure will be nice to see what QB coach they hire to work with QB's.

[djjimkelly]

Cardale won't last the season. If he thinks he's going to run over people like he did in college he won't make it to Oct.

good then we will ony win 2 games lol

the tank would truly be on

[swiper]

Cardale Jones is horrid.

[BertSquirtgum]

He must have been high when he said that. We're going to keep Tyrod and, YES, Whaley DID draft EJ Manuel!
Buddy Nix did.

[Mace]

Buddy Nix did.


"I was an integral part in the drafting process (http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-network-total-access/0ap2000000202160/Doug-Whaley-s-vision-for-Bills-future) of EJ Manuel," Whaley said on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access" on Thursday. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000204027/article/new-bills-gm-doug-whaley-integral-in-ej-manuel-pick

Or is he just a shameless liar ? Doesn't really matter, both results are woeful.

[coastal]

Buddy Nix did.
Sweater vest wearing child molester looking creep that he was...

[Mace]

Sweater vest wearing child molester looking creep that he was...

I noticed that too. Or, he was the folksy guy you bought your fresh produce from while he was giving you the best he voided his wastes on.

"Why, this is the best crop of tomatoes ! (I ever urinated on you jerk) "They remind me of down home !" (where I was arrested many times among the crops)

[swiper]

Buddy Nix did.

No he didn't.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000204027/article/new-bills-gm-doug-whaley-integral-in-ej-manuel-pick

Nix had one foot out the door at that point. What was he going to do? Publicly question the pick? No. The pick was 100% Whaley.

Marrone went along b/c he had no choice. He was new and knew he needed a QB.

Pick was 100% Whaley.

[DynaPaul]

Nix still officially held the GM spot but had passed the torch already to Whaley who, in his own words, is responsible for Manuel. I'm not sure what people aren't understanding about that.

[Night Train]

Nix still officially held the GM spot but had passed the torch already to Whaley who, in his own words, is responsible for Manuel. I'm not sure what people aren't understanding about that.

Not defending Whaley at al. Wish him gone. But Ralph told Nix to pick his QB before leaving and he selected Manuel. That was well known.

[swiper]

Not defending Whaley at al. Wish him gone. But Ralph told Nix to pick his QB before leaving and he selected Manuel. That was well known.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000204027/article/new-bills-gm-doug-whaley-integral-in-ej-manuel-pick

[DynaPaul]

Not defending Whaley at al. Wish him gone. But Ralph told Nix to pick his QB before leaving and he selected Manuel. That was well known.

That's fine but Whaley still scouted him and ranked him highest on the board.

The Buffalo Bills raised plenty of eyebrows after taking EJ Manuel with the No. 16 pick in the 2013 NFL Draft, making him the first quarterback to go off the board. New general manager Doug Whaley isn't shy about taking ownership of the pick, even if he was second-in-command to Buddy Nix at the time.

"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said on NFL Network's "NFL Total Access" on Thursday. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

[BertSquirtgum]

No he didn't.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000204027/article/new-bills-gm-doug-whaley-integral-in-ej-manuel-pick

Nix had one foot out the door at that point. What was he going to do? Publicly question the pick? No. The pick was 100% Whaley.

Marrone went along b/c he had no choice. He was new and knew he needed a QB.

Pick was 100% Whaley.
Buddy Nix drafted EJ Manuel

[sudzy]

I question everything Sal has said since the "Bill Cowher will be the Bills HC story." But, it served it's purpose, he got a job out of that story. But, if this story does turn out to be true, Doug Whaley's GM career will be over and McDermott's time in Buffalo will be short.

[YardRat]

I'm OK with Whaley being strapped with the EJ pick regardless of whether or not it was he who actually pulled the trigger. I don't think it's as egregious an error to have whiffed on it as some do, however.

Show me a GM that didn't screw up a draft pick, trade, or FA signing on a QB and I'll show you a GM that never tried to get one.

[justasportsfan]

If Whaley scouted EJ ,thought he was the top qb in his class ,reflected that on their draft board, that would make him integral. Doesnt mean he made the decision to draft EJ with the bills' first pick. Nix still could have made that call and I beleive he did after that phone call about Fitz being a back up.

[BillsImpossible]

Nix/Whaley pulled the trigger on Manuel in 2013 and failed.

BUT...at least they did draft the best QB out of the entire field that year, which was a horrible crop of QBs.

Few people thought Dak Prescott would become a franchise QB after being drafted in the 4th round (135th pick) of the 2016 NFL Draft.

The Bills drafted Cardale Jones with the 139th pick.

In the last game of the season vs. the Jets, Cardale Jones outperformed EJ Manuel in a single quarter.

Given the situation, that should have never happened, but it did happen.

All the Jets had to do on defense was pin their ears back and go after Jones.

No rookie QB making their first appearance at the very last crap end of a season/football game (that was already won) had no business throwing for 96 yards against the Jets, but it happened.

Most of us were half in the bag by then, drowning in our 17 year drought full of sorrows...but I saw a glimpse of hope.

In 3 quarters of play against the Jets, EJ Manuel completed 9 out of 20 pass attempts for 86 yards.

In 1 quarter of play against the Jets, Cardale Jones completed 6 out of 11 pass attempts for 96 yards and the Bills only scoring drive that resulted in a TD.

Put Cardale's debut performance in context - rookie QB, 4th quarter in the last game of the season, down 23-3.

I don't think anyone expected him to play better than EJ Manuel and outperform him in 15 minutes, but it happened.

3rd string QB Cardale Jones beats Alabama?

Impossible.

But it happened.

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[Mouldsie]

I'm OK with Whaley being strapped with the EJ pick regardless of whether or not it was he who actually pulled the trigger. I don't think it's as egregious an error to have whiffed on it as some do, however.

Show me a GM that didn't screw up a draft pick, trade, or FA signing on a QB and I'll show you a GM that never tried to get one.

It changes things for me a bit. EJ was a 4th round player at best. It's a dreadful whiff.