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Jim Kelly at number 13, ahead of Staubach and Tarkenton.
I'm happy with seeing him in the top 15. Sure do miss seeing him out there.
I'm happy with seeing him in the top 15. Sure do miss seeing him out there.
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*sigh.
I remember at the end of Jimbo's career, thinking he had held on too long and probably should have retired a year or two before he did. What I wouldn't give to have seen him stick it out 2 or 3 more years....Comment
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13 is OK I guess...If it was me I'd put him top 10, but 13 is fair enough.
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I would put Kelly ahead of Young, Marino and definitely Starr, but he is the only guy on the list without an MVP or SB.YardRat Wall of Fame
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It's hard to compare once you start bouncing between eras, but I remember seeing Starr on the old black & white when I was a kid near the end of his career. He belongs, imho. They played a brutal game back then, in the weather with rushing oriented offense. Starr played 15 (to 37 years old) years in that era. Have to think in this one he could have played until he was 45.Originally posted by YardRat View Post
Would have loved to see how a lot of those guys would have done with this gentler version of the game, prevalent domes, and pass happy offenses.
Anyway though, I love seeing Kelly in that company.Comment
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As a Pats fan I'd say Marino is one or two.
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I was happy Kelly beat up Marino teams so often.Originally posted by upstart View Post
But you have to admit, the Pats have more than made up for those years.Comment
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Being an old salt, I'd say Staubach was better than Kelly and a few others ahead of him. The king of the 2 minute drive to win games. Uber clutch. He was amazing to watch.Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for witComment
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"But lets hold that against him anyway"Marino didn't have enough of a running game behind him to get to more than one Super Bowl.
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It should be held against him, the biggest reason Miami could never establish a complimentary running game is Marino would never allow it.Originally posted by Mike13 View PostYardRat Wall of Fame
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Bull****.Originally posted by YardRat View PostComment
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Hardly. Whenever their *******s started to pinch up a bit, Marino consistently abandoned the run in favor of his arm.Originally posted by Mike13 View PostYardRat Wall of Fame
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I am sorry, I know Brady has a **** load of rings and he is one of the greatest in history but I have to move Johny Unitas, Francis Tarkenton, Roger Staubach, Terry Bradshaw, and Bart Starr up. I have to put Unitas as the greatest of all time. There are two eras of pro football, before the 1958 NFL title game and after. Second, United would have over 100,000 yards if he enjoyed the pass protections of today and so would Tarkenton. If we played football by sixties and seventies rules on the other hand, Brady would be in bad trouble. Could you imagine Brady having to play the no name defense twice a year, and the Steel Curtain, and the Raider defense of the 1970s to get to the superbowl and then having to take on Doomsday I or II or the Purple People Eaters? Brady would have very pedestrian numbers.Comment
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Can't really argue the top 5 except maybe the order.
Sammy Baugh got the shaft though.Comment
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