Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

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  • stuckincincy
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    • Sep 2003
    • 15084

    Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

    Whether or not you think McCarron would be a worthwhile addition, here is some more info re his status.

    He is not a UFA after the 2017 season. Because he was drafted by CIN with a non-football-related-injury (NFI) status, and he hasn't accrued enough active games to qualify him for unrestricted free agency in 2018.

    A team trading for him gets him under current contract terms through 2018. His contract dollar amounts for 2017 is a base salary of $690,000 and a signing bonus of $45,413. Quite inexpensive.
    He is an RFA for the 2018 season.

    From an article by B'gals beat writer in the Cinci Enquirer on 2/9/17 (JIM OWCZARSKI JOWCZARSKI@ENQUIRER.COM:

    "McCarron’s status, long known throughout the league, will likely keep him as an attractive target on the trade market since a team that acquires him has a mechanism in place to allow him to play out another year under their control"...

    If CIN trades him (and that's a big "if" - everybody knows about owner Brown, and his philosophy of keeping players to the bitter end of a contract regardless of performance), they would likely be looking for draft picks next year or beyond, because with the bolting of WRs Marvin Jones and Mo Sanu and FS Reggie Nelson in 2016, they were awarded 4 comp picks - two were 3rd rnd selections. That leaves them with 11 picks.

    Everybody wants more picks, but too many dilutes the rookie pool money in a given year.
    Last edited by stuckincincy; 02-16-2017, 11:18 AM.
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  • Mouldsie
    Registered User
    • Aug 2012
    • 5661

    #2
    Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

    no

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    • The last buffalo fan
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      • Sep 2004
      • 18204

      #3
      Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

      I woud take a long look at him, who knows.
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      • Turf
        Registered User
        • Jul 2002
        • 8377

        #4
        Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

        If we traded for him we'd be dumb enough to sign him to a 45mil/3 yr deal before he plays a snap.
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        • Bill Cody
          Registered User
          • Sep 2004
          • 11885

          #5
          Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

          The extra year of control does nothing to change the opinion I have from part 1 of the "Kick the McCarron Tires" series. And unless part 3 is "Bill Cody gets to bang McCarron's wife" my guess is that won't be persuasive either

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          • stuckincincy
            Buffalo Bills Fan
            • Sep 2003
            • 15084

            #6
            Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

            Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
            The extra year of control does nothing to change the opinion I have from part 1 of the "Kick the McCarron Tires" series. And unless part 3 is "Bill Cody gets to bang McCarron's wife" my guess is that won't be persuasive either
            OK for you, then. Other minds have interest.
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            • stuckincincy
              Buffalo Bills Fan
              • Sep 2003
              • 15084

              #7
              Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

              Originally posted by Bill Cody View Post
              The extra year of control does nothing to change the opinion I have from part 1 of the "Kick the McCarron Tires" series. And unless part 3 is "Bill Cody gets to bang McCarron's wife" my guess is that won't be persuasive either

              Noted. You don't like him.

              So Taylor is your man next season.eh?
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              • YardRat
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                • Dec 2004
                • 86147

                #8
                Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                I'd rather roll with McCarron than Tyrod this season, but I'm not real fond of giving up draft picks to get him.
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                • Night Train
                  Retired - On Several Levels
                  • Jul 2005
                  • 33117

                  #9
                  Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                  I bet they kick the tires on Nick Foles. Kyle Orton type.
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                  • Mace
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                    • Mar 2013
                    • 20314

                    #10
                    Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                    Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                    Everybody wants more picks, but too many dilutes the rookie pool money in a given year.
                    That doesn't even make sense. Longer term rookie picks are cheaper than endless short term vet fa's and build the younger foundation that sets your organization on a path to continued success without endlessly replugging the same holes with more expensive older guys.

                    There's absolutely no way you'd want to minimize your longer term, cheaper talent pool in favor of a shorter term more expensive pool of talent. You have to compete for vet fa's and Buffalo is not a desired location without overspending, you lock in your rookie picks within a scale.

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                    • Ingtar33
                      Dances With Buffaloes
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 15469

                      #11
                      Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                      well, if our goal is to roll up the 1st overall pick i guess we could go for AJ. Though I wouldn't give a dime for him, as we can just as easily compete for the no.1 pick if we start Cardale Jones.
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                      • stuckincincy
                        Buffalo Bills Fan
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 15084

                        #12
                        Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                        Originally posted by Ingtar33 View Post
                        well, if our goal is to roll up the 1st overall pick i guess we could go for AJ. Though I wouldn't give a dime for him, as we can just as easily compete for the no.1 pick if we start Cardale Jones.

                        What results do you expect from Taylor next season, for the nearly $16M he will get? Playoff berth thanks to his efforts?
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                        • djjimkelly
                          Registered User
                          • Apr 2003
                          • 7045

                          #13
                          Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                          Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                          I bet they kick the tires on Nick Foles. Kyle Orton type.
                          hes way better then orton . orton was near unwatchable

                          but i want to watch cardele and a 2-14 season so we get then best qb in the 2018 draft
                          Last edited by djjimkelly; 02-16-2017, 10:59 PM.

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                          • WagonCircler
                            Escaped Convict
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 5876

                            #14
                            Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                            Originally posted by djjimkelly View Post
                            hes way better then orton . orton was near unwatchable
                            No he wasn't. He may have been the best QB we've had here since Bledsoe's first year.

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                            • Bill Cody
                              Registered User
                              • Sep 2004
                              • 11885

                              #15
                              Re: Kicking the tires on AJ McCarron, Part 2:

                              Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                              Noted. You don't like him.

                              So Taylor is your man next season.eh?
                              no

                              As I've stated before I divide the Bills QB into 2 camps: a guy that could become a championship QB for us and everyone else. I don't give an F who the QB is if he's from the "everyone else" camp and that includes Tie Rod. Ok?

                              In a nutshell my take is draft Trubisky at 10 and let him take his lumps or let him sit for a year, fine either way. If he's gone, trade down until you have about 10 draft choices, bolster the team's depth, start Jones and be content with 2-14, pick the QB the following year. I am so so done with the 6-10 to 9-7 train. And that's the train your boy McCarron is on. It's nothing personal, seems like a nice kid. Just not good enough, period.

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