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DraftBoy
02-21-2017, 06:42 AM
I think we have about 4,567 different threads on QB's, so let's just get everybody on the record right now. The options are pretty self-explanatory, so take your pick.

If you pick other then please list who you would rather trade for or sign below.

Skooby
02-21-2017, 06:48 AM
Draft 2 QB's this year, one with our first and Chad Kelly.

k-oneputt
02-21-2017, 08:00 AM
I want Cutler and draft Mahomes.
If not Cutler, I'll take Glennon.

HHURRICANE
02-21-2017, 08:01 AM
Romo, draft Chad

k-oneputt
02-21-2017, 08:06 AM
Romo's not coming to Buffalo so I'm not even considering him.
He would be my first choice.

TacklingDummy
02-21-2017, 08:55 AM
Tank and draft Darnold.

djjimkelly
02-21-2017, 09:34 AM
FA and draft chad

or

i like TD's thoughts tank and grab darnold

Night Train
02-21-2017, 09:43 AM
Why are we held to 1 choice ?

A vet FA and a draft pick, to go with C. Jones.

jimmifli
02-21-2017, 09:48 AM
I voted for Tyrod. But I also want to see a "vet" backup and draft pick or two draft picks.

Bring in a practice squad or 2nd/3rd stringer from another team and draft Kelly. Or draft two QBs.

Skooby
02-21-2017, 10:05 AM
Tyrod won't take a cut & we won't pay him, so let's just get that out of the mix now.

Mr. Pink
02-21-2017, 10:06 AM
Brian Hoyer and a draft pick. Either Mahomes in Round 2 or a late round flier on Kelly.

Let Hoyer play til he gets hurt, because he never stays healthy for a full season, and then go with the rookie.

OpIv37
02-21-2017, 10:25 AM
Lmao that people think a headcase like Cutler or a glass jaw choke artist like Romo would get us to the playoffs. Both would be a huge waste of money.

I hate the idea of Chad Kelly, not because of Chad himself, but because I don't trust them to make the call solely on his football merit. Russ Brandon knows he'd sell a ****-ton of jerseys with Kelly on the back and that will influence the decision.

Might as well pull one of those options out of a hat because none of them will result in us making the playoffs. Once again, we need a QB, and once again, no one who can solve the problem is realistically available to us.

k-oneputt
02-21-2017, 10:46 AM
No the "huge waste of money" would be to pay Tyrod that contract.
If he is open to renegotiating then lets talk, if not, see ya.
If the plan is winning the Super Bowl then Tyrod goes.

The last buffalo fan
02-21-2017, 11:02 AM
Lmao that people think a headcase like Cutler or a glass jaw choke artist like Romo would get us to the playoffs. Both would be a huge waste of money.

I hate the idea of Chad Kelly, not because of Chad himself, but because I don't trust them to make the call solely on his football merit. Russ Brandon knows he'd sell a ****-ton of jerseys with Kelly on the back and that will influence the decision.

Might as well pull one of those options out of a hat because none of them will result in us making the playoffs. Once again, we need a QB, and once again, no one who can solve the problem is realistically available to us.

Y su opcion de solucion, es ..............

Ed
02-21-2017, 11:26 AM
My first choice is to keep Tyrod for another year or two and see what he can do with healthy/better WRs and different coaching.

If they do end up getting rid of Tyrod, my next choice would be to start Cardale Jones and focus on getting a top qb prospect in the 2018 draft if Jones looks terrible.

WagonCircler
02-21-2017, 11:41 AM
Romo, draft Chad

This would be my first choice, but there's zero chance Romo comes here.

Joe Fo Sho
02-21-2017, 12:31 PM
How is signing Kirk Cousins as a free agent even an option and why isn't it what everyone voted for? We have a better chance at landing Romo, and we all know that's not happening.

Yasgur's Farm
02-21-2017, 12:35 PM
I'd love (and voted for) Cousins... But how realistic is that? Would still want Chad Kelly in the 3rd round
I'd be OK drafting Deshaun Watson at 10. But I'd also be OK trading down a couple times to pick 2 or 3 additional 2nd and 3rd rounders (we have 25 roster spots to fill).

So... I guess I'd go bridge QB and draft Chad Kelly.

HHURRICANE
02-21-2017, 01:16 PM
Not sure I post this in this thread but we can't trade Tyrod? I gotta believe we can trade this guy, and maybe for a 1st rounder based on some of the desperation out there.

Joe Fo Sho
02-21-2017, 01:31 PM
Not sure I post this in this thread but we can't trade Tyrod? I gotta believe we can trade this guy, and maybe for a 1st rounder based on some of the desperation out there.

In order to trade him, we have to pick up his option, at which point we'd have about $16MM in dead cap after we traded him. No thanks, just cut ties with him now. What a stupid contract we offered him.

Bill Cody
02-21-2017, 01:35 PM
Let Tie walk
Sign Manuel to a one year vet min deal
Draft Trubisky at 10
start whoever looks best of Manuel, Jones and Trub with Trub hopefully the QB of the future

EDS
02-21-2017, 01:41 PM
Kirk Cousins is the easy choice. That said, he is unlikely to be available and the Bills have mismanaged their cap space so signing him as a free agent is unrealistic

Novacane
02-21-2017, 01:43 PM
Not sure I post this in this thread but we can't trade Tyrod? I gotta believe we can trade this guy, and maybe for a 1st rounder based on some of the desperation out there.



lmao!

DraftBoy
02-21-2017, 01:52 PM
Why are we held to 1 choice ?

A vet FA and a draft pick, to go with C. Jones.

Because all I want is your first option. I think everybody agrees we're likely bringing in multiple QB's.

YardRat
02-21-2017, 04:39 PM
Considering we are restricted to one choice, the 'top, #1 option' is pretty easy---draft a QB. I still think Kelly is the best QB in this draft so that would be my wish.

Adding to the above...we still need to bring in a vet FA. I like McCarron, but am loathe to give up picks for him, and he isn't coming for free. Romo isn't coming, and Cousins is too much risk for the money. I'd be OK bringing in Foles or even Cutler, but only if he gets released by Chicago. I've bounced from side to side on Tyrod, and to be honest don't care if he's re-signed or not. If he is, OK...Taylor, FA, draft pick, Jones and UDFA come to camp. If he isn't, FA, another FA, draft pick, Jones and UDFA is fine by me.

Mace
02-21-2017, 05:34 PM
Well, distastefully I went with least worse Taylor.

My reasoning :
-can't start a rookie with two WR coaches in charge of QB's, just can't. Signing Hoyer or Schaub will get them hurt, and you end up starting an unprepared rookie being taught by WR coaches.
-we can't afford to spend picks on a trade, we just can't imho, we don't have enough of them already.
-I don't think Glennon or Fitzpatrick are more than backups.
-I wouldn't want to get stuck committing to Cousins (pricey) or Foles (not so pricey but probably wanting a chance to become pricey), who I don't think are all that anyway.

That leaves me unhappily stuck with Taylor, an inadequate passer who at least won't be catastrophic to continue the endless middlin' tradition.

Night Train
02-21-2017, 06:41 PM
TT is a bridge QB and his time is up.

Keeping him tells the rest of the NFL " We have zero interest in a passing game "...when the NFL is ALL about the passing game.

Then we finish 2-3 games out of the playoff spot again and blame the kicker. The definition of insanity.

You have to at least try to get a passing game going.

Mace
02-21-2017, 07:38 PM
TT is a bridge QB and his time is up.

Keeping him tells the rest of the NFL " We have zero interest in a passing game "...when the NFL is ALL about the passing game.

Then we finish 2-3 games out of the playoff spot again and blame the kicker. The definition of insanity.

You have to at least try to get a passing game going.

It's not hard to convince me, you're right. Ok, someone else. Whoever. I have no passion for this debate because I can't see it ending well in any case.

Has to be an FA then, don't spend picks or send a developmental guy out there with WR QB coaches. That leaves the brittle Hoyer, the overpriced Cousins, the aging Schaub or the underwhelming Glennon/Foles.

Thurmal
02-21-2017, 08:15 PM
For the DeShaun Watson fans, here is a scouting report I read:

Weaknesses:
Can be inaccurate
Poor ball placement
Ball security; throws too many interceptions
Field vision
Working through progressions
Will need to learn working under center
Will need to learn working a NFL huddle
Will need to improve footwork
Prone to throwing too high
Can stare down his primary read
Needs development for a pro-style offense
College offense inflated his stats
College offense ran lot of plays he won't run in the NFL

AKA -- A RECIPE FOR DISASTER

Mouldsie
02-21-2017, 09:29 PM
Where is "tank?"

djjimkelly
02-21-2017, 11:15 PM
For the DeShaun Watson fans, here is a scouting report I read:

Weaknesses:
Can be inaccurate
Poor ball placement
Ball security; throws too many interceptions
Field vision
Working through progressions
Will need to learn working under center
Will need to learn working a NFL huddle
Will need to improve footwork
Prone to throwing too high
Can stare down his primary read
Needs development for a pro-style offense
College offense inflated his stats
College offense ran lot of plays he won't run in the NFL

AKA -- A RECIPE FOR DISASTER

sounds like a combo of EJ and tyrod NO TY

The Jokeman
02-25-2017, 05:59 AM
I voted for Nick Files but would also like us to draft Nathan Peterman in the 3rd Round to develop with Cardale.

The Natrix
02-25-2017, 11:19 AM
Hoyer, Trubisky, Cardale Jones.

ticatfan
02-27-2017, 12:30 PM
Keep Tyrod and draft Deshaun Watson.

Kenny
02-27-2017, 12:50 PM
Keep Tyrod and draft Deshaun Watson.

ugh... this would be the last thing I want. Keep Tyrod for another year or two, only to start Tyrod 2.0 in the near future?

ticatfan
02-28-2017, 11:32 AM
ugh... this would be the last thing I want. Keep Tyrod for another year or two, only to start Tyrod 2.0 in the near future?We will see on Watson. Tyrod ,well who else is out there with at least some experience and if given a little more time IMO he can get better.

Historian
02-28-2017, 12:53 PM
Keep Tyrod and draft Kelly

Yasgur's Farm
02-28-2017, 01:34 PM
Exclusive tag was placed on Cousins... I believe he said he wouldn't play under a tag. So he's still on the table... We can offer him a contract.

Joe Fo Sho
02-28-2017, 01:40 PM
Exclusive tag was placed on Cousins... I believe he said he wouldn't play under a tag. So he's still on the table... We can offer him a contract.

He reportedly also said that the only team he was sign an extension with is San Francisco. Even though other reports are coming out now that he'd be open to other teams and apparently he finds Cleveland intriguing. It's a bizarre situation they have over there in Washington.

jwenger
03-01-2017, 01:24 PM
Keep Tyrod and draft Deshaun Watson.

This is the way to go. You would soon see Watson outplaying Tyrod and
sending Tyrod to the pine. Make the move Whaley and get a winner at
QB for a change -----

k-oneputt
03-01-2017, 01:28 PM
This is the way to go. You would soon see Watson outplaying Tyrod and
sending Tyrod to the pine. Make the move Whaley and get a winner at
QB for a change -----

Are you related to him ??? I see your from his hometown.

jwenger
03-01-2017, 01:29 PM
Draft Watson, the kid is a pure bred winner from grade school on up.
He has won on ALL levels and says his next goal is to win in the Super Bowl.
I believe he can and will do it no matter what team he plays for.

jwenger
03-01-2017, 01:42 PM
Are you related to him ??? I see your from his hometown.
I have known him since he was 8 years old. He took Gainesville High to a State Championship
in AAAAAA division. He almost went to Georgia but they wanted him as a CB and not a QB.
He has lived in a HUD house and he said his 1st move is to buy his mom a new house.
Dabo Swinney (Clemson coach) grabbed him and put him in as QB. He was a AAAAA recruit.
The Atlanta Falcons complex(Flowery Branch) is just about 15 miles down the road (985) from
us and he goes there on open practice and throws it with Matt Ryan the NFL "Player of the Year"
I have seen that and he matches Ryan throw for throw. (You will see at the combine) If that all
isn't enough for the Bills to seriously pursue him I don't know what is.

Joe Fo Sho
03-01-2017, 01:58 PM
I have known him since he was 8 years old. He took Gainesville High to a State Championship
in AAAAAA division. He almost went to Georgia but they wanted him as a CB and not a QB.
He has lived in a HUD house and he said his 1st move is to buy his mom a new house.
Dabo Swinney (Clemson coach) grabbed him and put him in as QB. He was a AAAAA recruit.
The Atlanta Falcons complex(Flowery Branch) is just about 15 miles down the road (985) from
us and he goes there on open practice and throws it with Matt Ryan the NFL "Player of the Year"
I have seen that and he matches Ryan throw for throw. (You will see at the combine) If that all
isn't enough for the Bills to seriously pursue him I don't know what is.

You sound like his agent. There's only one thing that you said that's related to his actual football ability, and that's how you noticed he was matching Matt Ryan throw for throw one time. If he was actually able to do that, he'd be long gone before we had a chance to draft him.

Bill Cody
03-01-2017, 04:27 PM
Draft Watson, the kid is a pure bred winner from grade school on up.
He has won on ALL levels and says his next goal is to win in the Super Bowl.
I believe he can and will do it no matter what team he plays for.

I don't know what a pure bred winner is, at least for people. I saw some on TV last week but that was the Westminster Dog Show.

kishoph
03-02-2017, 02:24 AM
I voted for Nick Files but would also like us to draft Nathan Peterman in the 3rd Round to develop with Cardale.

If the Chiefs don't pick up his option I would be happy for the Bills to sign Foles. I still would draft a QB and I really think Peterman would thrive in a West Coast Offense. One question though, is when do you draft him ?

The Jokeman
03-02-2017, 04:21 AM
If the Chiefs don't pick up his option I would be happy for the Bills to sign Foles. I still would draft a QB and I really think Peterman would thrive in a West Coast Offense. One question though, is when do you draft him ?

I would think Peterman be available with our 3rd Round pick and that's where I'd take him.

Skooby
03-02-2017, 04:42 AM
I would think Peterman be available with our 3rd Round pick and that's where I'd take him.

This is after we drop back twice and pick up a extra late 3rd round pick.

BertSquirtgum
03-02-2017, 12:17 PM
Kirk Cousins but the Redskins will never let him go. Sooo, the Bills should stick with Tyrod and draft a qb somewhere they feel comfortable drafting one. Hopefully Chad Kelly in the 3rd.

swiper
03-02-2017, 12:24 PM
Kirk Cousins but the Redskins will never let him go. Sooo,

So, that makes anyone voting for Cousins in this poll look like the stupid dopes that they are.

TigerJ
03-02-2017, 09:33 PM
Shocking as it may seem, I don't have real strong feelings about the Bills' decision at QB. I'm OK with Tyrod being retained, but I don't have any illusions about him being a long term solution at QB. The one thing I don't want to see happen is a trade for a journeyman quality QB (which is all you're going to get in a trade). If Buffalo decides the way to go is to cut bait with Tyrod and sign a band aid veteran, I'm OK with that too, understanding the Bills don't stand much chance of breaking the playoff drought under those circumstances. Buffalo' future hope at the moment is that eventually Cardale develops or the QB Buffalo drafts this year develops and one of them turns out having the ability to be a winner perhaps in 2018.

djjimkelly
03-02-2017, 11:08 PM
http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/02/report-bills-interest-denver-qb-trevor-siemian/

trevor siemian now in the mix

SpikedLemonade
03-02-2017, 11:32 PM
http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/02/report-bills-interest-denver-qb-trevor-siemian/

trevor siemian now in the mix

Would not be the worst idea and he would be cheap.

YardRat
03-03-2017, 06:10 AM
http://buffalonews.com/2017/03/02/report-bills-interest-denver-qb-trevor-siemian/

trevor siemian now in the mix

Legit or just another talking head connecting dots with Dennison?

daryls61
03-03-2017, 08:18 AM
I would be on board with Siemian

djjimkelly
03-03-2017, 09:52 AM
Legit or just another talking head connecting dots with Dennison?

not sure but the next week to 10 days should be interesting

mdcas22
03-04-2017, 12:45 PM
starting ti like Davis Webb as QB, if we can get him in the 2nd rnd.