Are the Bills keeping EJ Manuel?!

[HHURRICANE]

Please tell me that the Bills aren't keeping EJ?

[Dr. Lecter]

What are you basing this on?

[swiper]

Trump tweeted in at 4 am.

[feldspar]

Manuel is an unrestricted free agent.

No way the Bills retain him at all

[kishoph]

Please tell me that the Bills aren't keeping EJ?

They're going to try him out at Fullback.

[justasportsfan]

What are you basing this on?

HH has unamed inside sources.

[Night Train]

HH has unamed inside sources.

BiPolar Bob ?

[Albany,n.y.]

They need EJ to start the last game of the season to improve the draft position again.

[Cali512]

EJ is the worst QB I have ever seen. I've never seen a QB who mixed inaccuracies, fumbling, bad decision making, staring down his WR, and horrible passing range, all in the same form

If Whaley drafted Edwards, Losman, and Fitzpatrick, I would feel better about him picking our QB. How the hell did EJ get drafted!?

[Dr. Lecter]

EJ is the worst QB I have ever seen. I've never seen a QB who mixed inaccuracies, fumbling, bad decision making, staring down his WR, and horrible passing range, all in the same form

If Whaley drafted Edwards, Losman, and Fitzpatrick, I would feel better about him picking our QB. How the hell did EJ get drafted!?

You haven't seen many QBs if you think he's the worst.

hell, he isn't close to the worst in Bills history. Or in the last ten years of the team even

[Cali512]

You haven't seen many QBs if you think he's the worst.

hell, he isn't close to the worst in Bills history. Or in the last ten years of the team even


So name one good trait he has other than arm strength?


I have never seen a QB routinely overthrow and underthrow 3-5 yard passes. That Clay pass, that Watkins pass that got him injured, the TJ Graham TD (horrific decision). The Stevie miss his first game vs the pats. I have never seen a QB miss routine throws as bad as he does, ever. That 3 drive sequence vs the Jags was the worst I have ever seen in my history of watching sports.

[justasportsfan]

BiPolar Bob ?

Suicidal Jane

[k-oneputt]

EJ is without doubt one of the worst qb's I've seen in a Bills uniform.
As already stated I really can't think of one positive qb quality he has.

[Cali512]

EJ is without doubt one of the worst qb's I've seen in a Bills uniform.
As already stated I really can't think of one positive qb quality he has.



Lol Edwards and Anderson showed more promise, and they played a game where they combined for 3 completions. Lol

[k-oneputt]

I would take Edwards all day over EJ and that's not saying much.

[Cali512]

I would take Edwards all day over EJ and that's not saying much.


I would take Holcomb, JP, and Collins over him. JP at least would throw darts in coverage at times, Collins was just average, and Holcomb played within his limitations.

[swiper]

You haven't seen many QBs if you think he's the worst.

hell, he isn't close to the worst in Bills history. Or in the last ten years of the team even

Oh yes he is the worst. And I've seen them all. Dennis Shaw was high on the list, but EJ blows him out of the water.

[Dr. Lecter]

Oh yes he is the worst. And I've seen them all. Dennis Shaw was high on the list, but EJ blows him out of the water.
Please.
Ferragamo, Dufek and Mathiason make him look like a mix of Brady, Manning and Elway.

[Cali512]

Omg please please don't bring up QBs from the ****in 70s. That's just ignorant. Back then QB was still a newer position, there were only 2-5 decent QBs each year. WRs could get manhandled by CBs and no one was as athletic as the players are now. Now there is no, no, excuse to be as bad as EJ is.


Wow I can't believe you brought up the 70s to defend your statement

[Dr. Lecter]

Omg please please don't bring up QBs from the ****in 70s. That's just ignorant. Back then QB was still a newer position, there were only 2-5 decent QBs each year. WRs could get manhandled by CBs and no one was as athletic as the players are now. Now there is no, no, excuse to be as bad as EJ is.


Wow I can't believe you brought up the 70s to defend your statement
It's kinda funny that you call me ignorant while saying I brought up the QBs from the 70's for those three QBs.

I am guessing you never saw them play and you certainly did not see them in the 70s.

But hey - I am the ignorant one.

[Forward_Lateral]

It's kinda funny that you call me ignorant while saying I brought up the QBs from the 70's for those three QBs.

I am guessing you never saw them play and you certainly did not see them in the 70s.

But hey - I am the ignorant one.

You should literally not try to reason with complete morons. Literally

[Cali512]

It's kinda funny that you call me ignorant while saying I brought up the QBs from the 70's for those three QBs.

I am guessing you never saw them play and you certainly did not see them in the 70s.

But hey - I am the ignorant one.



ITS IGNORANT

The game was totally different. Fundamentals weren't fundamentals yet! The freakin west coast offense, and spread offense weren't even in the NFL yet!

I understand you are stuck mentally in the 70s but damn, to compare a QB from back then, to now is just ignorant. That's like bashing on a 1970s goaltender to make Lehnrr seem elite.

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You should literally not try to reason with complete morons. Literally


So what's your stance in all this?

[Forward_Lateral]

Literally.

[Dr. Lecter]

I could also mention Brian Brohm and Jeff Tuel.

But I think I will keep on laughing at the entire line of reasoning that I am stuck in the 70s with my comparison.

[BOBM253]

EJ was pretty good at the hard count........so there's one good attribute.....

[Forward_Lateral]

I could also mention Brian Brohm and Jeff Tuel.

But I think I will keep on laughing at the entire line of reasoning that I am stuck in the 70s with my comparison.

I was going to mention those two as well, but decided not to waste my time. Rob Johnson too.

[Cali512]

Actually both of them showed a lot more promise than EJ. Tuel has a very weak arm, but was very accurate and made quick decisions. Brohms career is just a mystery. He had the arm, and very good accuracy, yet never panned out. But a team lead by Tuel and Brohm would beat one lead by EJ

[Forward_Lateral]

Actually both of them showed a lot more promise than EJ. Tuel has a very weak arm, but was very accurate and made quick decisions. Brohms career is just a mystery. He had the arm, and very good accuracy, yet never panned out. But a team lead by Tuel and Brohm would beat one lead by EJ


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[Cali512]

I was going to mention those two as well, but decided not to waste my time. Rob Johnson too.



I think yall are just enamored by EJs body. Because there is nothing that EJ has done that proves he is better than any of these 3

[Forward_Lateral]

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[jimmifli]

I could also mention Brian Brohm and Jeff Tuel.

But I think I will keep on laughing at the entire line of reasoning that I am stuck in the 70s with my comparison.

Thad Lewis when not playing the Phins.

[Cali512]

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Fact is fact. Just because EJ was 6-5, and had all the physical tools to be successful doesn't mean he's a good QB. Brohm in college was light years above EJ, and Tuel was solid in his KC start

[Dr. Lecter]

Thad Lewis when not playing the Phins.

Clearly you are stuck in the 1950's when you say that!!!!!

[Dr. Lecter]

Fact is fact. Just because EJ was 6-5, and had all the physical tools to be successful doesn't mean he's a good QB. Brohm in college was light years above EJ, and Tuel was solid in his KC start
Tuel is the reason they lost to KC.

[Forward_Lateral]

Tuel is the reason they lost to KC.
LITERALLY

[swiper]

Please.
Ferragamo, Dufek and Mathiason make him look like a mix of Brady, Manning and Elway.

No. Not at all.

[Cali512]

I think a QB who was born physically gifted, and played in the modern era, should be judged differently than undrafted QBs who was born undersized or with very little to work with, or a QB who played at the most difficult time ever to be a QB

[WagonCircler]

Please.
Ferragamo, Dufek and Mathiason make him look like a mix of Brady, Manning and Elway.

Ferragamo almost won a freaking Super Bowl for the Rams! He was 10X better than EJ!

[Dr. Lecter]

Ferragamo almost won a freaking Super Bowl for the Rams! He was 10X better than EJ!

Not when he was with the Bills.

[swiper]

Not when he was with the Bills.

He had ups and downs, but was far better than Manuel. No one. No one is as bad as Manuel is. Period. End of discussion.

[Cali512]

Shouldn't we judge a 6-5 physically gifted 1st round pic, in the easiest era ever to play QB, harder then a undrafted undersized QB? Or a QB who played in by far the most difficult era to play QB? I think so

[Dr. Lecter]

Shouldn't we judge a 6-5 physically gifted 1st round pic, in the easiest era ever to play QB, harder then a undrafted undersized QB? Or a QB who played in by far the most difficult era to play QB? I think so
What era would that be?

And, if you saying the worst ever that is different than the most disappointing ever.

[kishoph]

Actually both of them showed a lot more promise than EJ. Tuel has a very weak arm, but was very accurate and made quick decisions. Brohms career is just a mystery. He had the arm, and very good accuracy, yet never panned out. But a team lead by Tuel and Brohm would beat one lead by EJ

Tuel's 44.1 accuracy percentage doesn't really scream pin point accuracy.
Seeing how Brohm never completed a pass over 20 yds and had a 4.85 average per pass, it's hard to say "he had the arm." Fact is Brohm completed a total of 3 passes that went more than 11 yds. in 52 attempts at QB.
The 2 of them together have 1 TD and 8 ints. for their career. Where as Manuel completed 58.3 % of his passes with a 6.40 ypp. and finished with 19 TD's to 15 ints.
Manuel may not be starter material, but he doesn't really come close to the worst QB in Bills history.

[Historian]

Dennis Shaw was rookie of the Year in 1970, two years before the Bills had any semblance of an O line.

[TacklingDummy]

I hated the EJ pick, had some hope for him last season, the Jets games proved all hope was foolish.

Goodbye

[Night Train]

EJ was a cricket player that was redirected to the wrong sports field.

[swiper]

EJ Manuel is the worst Bills draft pick ever. Mike Williams is feeling good about himself.

[Dr. Lecter]

EJ Manuel is the worst Bills draft pick ever. Mike Williams is feeling good about himself.
Aaron Maybin is laughing at this absurd claim

[swiper]

LOL. You are some whole lotta confused about life.

[YardRat]

When the hell did JP Losman ever 'throw darts into coverage'? Ever??

[swiper]

JP >>> EJ

[The Jokeman]

Please.
Ferragamo, Dufek and Mathiason make him look like a mix of Brady, Manning and Elway.

Don't forget Jeff Teuhl against KC.

[Night Train]

Aaron Maybin is laughing at this absurd claim

Booker Moore, Al Cowlings, Phil Dokes, Walt Patalski, Ton Rudd, Perry Tuttle, James Williams, Eric Flowers, John McCargo, Tony Hunter..

Sucks being old and actually remembering all this..

[swiper]

And yet Manuel worse than all of them. A guy who never belonged in the NFL in the first place.

[Dr. Lecter]

Booker Moore, Al Cowlings, Phil Dokes, Walt Patalski, Ton Rudd, Perry Tuttle, James Williams, Eric Flowers, John McCargo, Tony Hunter..

Sucks being old and actually remembering all this..

better than Swiper.

He's old and apparently forgets it all.

[swiper]

better than Swiper.

He's old and apparently forgets it all.

I haven't forgotten a bit of it son. Tough when you can't admit what a waste EJ Manuel is. Worst Bill ever.

[sudzy]

Omg please please don't bring up QBs from the ****in 70s. That's just ignorant. Back then QB was still a newer position, there were only 2-5 decent QBs each year. WRs could get manhandled by CBs and no one was as athletic as the players are now. Now there is no, no, excuse to be as bad as EJ is.


Wow I can't believe you brought up the 70s to defend your statement

Or 80s. They all played in the mid 80s

[Mouldsie]

EJ is awful. Tuel and Brohm were awfuler. We shouldn't aim for awful.... Is that fair, everyone?

[feldspar]

EJ Manuel is the worst Bills draft pick ever.

Not really, when you take the trade-down into the equation.

We got Manuel and Kiko Alonso with the same pick after the trade-down, basically. The whole deal got us McCoy in the long run, if you follow the series of events. I'll take that.

Manuel really only cost us one year practically, and we have 17 of them notched under our belt in a row so far. Terrible QB draft class, really. The moral? Don't force a draft pick based on need...

[swiper]

Not really, when you take the trade-down into the equation.

We got Manuel and Kiko Alonso with the same pick after the trade-down, basically. The whole deal got us McCoy in the long run, if you follow the series of events. I'll take that.

Manuel really only cost us one year practically, and we have 17 of them notched under our belt in a row so far. Terrible QB draft class, really. The moral? Don't force a draft pick based on need...

Whaley & Nix should have known that and not let themselves get pigeon-holed into that situation.

[TigerJ]

Don't the Bills need a hard count specialist? Seriously, since Manuel is a UFA, it will take a contract offer from the Bills to retain him. Does anyone in their right mind think Buffalo wants to spend cap money to retain him?

[Novacane]

The back and forth in this thread is like arguing about which turd in the porta potty smells the worst.

[Dr. Lecter]

I haven't forgotten a bit of it son. Tough when you can't admit what a waste EJ Manuel is. Worst Bill ever.
I never said he wasn't a waste

[WagonCircler]

Not when he was with the Bills.

Even when he was with the Bills. Seriously Lecter, the EJ apologist act is a really bad look. He's horrendous, and proved it over and over and over again. Move on.

[Dr. Lecter]

Even when he was with the Bills. Seriously Lecter, the EJ apologist act is a really bad look. He's horrendous, and proved it over and over and over again. Move on.

Your reading comprehension leaves a lot to be desired.

I am not saying EJ is good.

he wasn't.

Those guys we worse.

Here are his game logs with the Bills

Tell which games were his high points

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FerrVi00/gamelog/1985/

[Dr. Lecter]

His stats for the year

149 comp
287 att
52%
1,677 yards
5 TDs
17 int
sacked 19 times

yes, EJ has sucked.
Ferragamo sucked more.