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Mr. Magoo
04-12-2017, 06:45 AM
Buffalo Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF) owner Terry Pegula made it three quarterbacks in three days on Monday. After witnessing private workouts by DeShone Kizer on Saturday and Mitchell Trubisky on Sunday, Pegula and a Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF) contingent, including head coach Sean McDermott, took in a private workout by Patrick Mahomes of Texas Tech, according to the Houston Chronicle (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/texans/article/Texas-Tech-QB-Patrick-Mahomes-works-out-for-11066466.php?t=54dbeecabb438d9cbb&cmpid=twitter-premium). The Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF) also scheduled Pitt QB Nathan Peterman for a pre-draft visit.

Pegula's presence certainly lends weight to the idea that the Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF) are serious about finding a young quarterback to develop behind starter Tyrod Taylor (http://www.nfl.com/player/tyrodtaylor/2495240/profile). The club drafted Cardale Jones (http://www.nfl.com/player/cardalejones/2555426/profile) out of Ohio State in the fourth round last year. Jones saw plenty of action in the preseason, but threw only 11 regular-season passes, all in the team's season finale.

The Bills (http://www.nfl.com/teams/buffalobills/profile?team=BUF) hold the No. 10 overall pick of the draft, and select again at No. 44 overall in the second round.
Mahomes has been a popular subject of pre-draft visits and workouts for NFL clubs, scheduling 18 teams for one or the other. He visited (http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000798358/article/2017-nfl-draft-patrick-mahomes-reportedly-visiting-browns) the Cleveland Browns (http://www.nfl.com/teams/clevelandbrowns/profile?team=CLE) on Friday, and is also known to have worked out for the Cardinals (http://www.nfl.com/teams/arizonacardinals/profile?team=ARI), Chargers (http://www.nfl.com/teams/losangeleschargers/profile?team=LAC), Browns (http://www.nfl.com/teams/clevelandbrowns/profile?team=CLE), Jets (http://www.nfl.com/teams/newyorkjets/profile?team=NYJ) and Saints (http://www.nfl.com/teams/neworleanssaints/profile?team=NO).

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000799213/article/report-bills-owner-among-team-officials-at-mahomes-workout

Forward_Lateral
04-12-2017, 06:57 AM
Sigh. What in the blue hell does Pegula know about scouting Quarterbacks? I really hope he has zero say in the draft, but I somehow doubt that.

TigerJ
04-12-2017, 07:15 AM
When Jerry Jones took over as owner for the Cowboys, he probably new squat, but now, acting as GM, he's built a pretty good team. I don't want Pegula making football positions, but I don't mind him taking an interest and learning the game on the inside.

Mr. Magoo
04-12-2017, 07:17 AM
If there was one QB that I would want it would be Mahomes. I just dont think us taking a QB this year is worth it, that is why I have us taking Kelly in the 6th round.

TacklingDummy
04-12-2017, 07:19 AM
Sigh. What in the blue hell does Pegula know about scouting Quarterbacks? I really hope he has zero say in the draft, but I somehow doubt that.

If I spent over a billion dollars on something I sure the hell would be involved in all decisions on running it.

Skooby
04-12-2017, 07:32 AM
If I spent over a billion dollars on something I sure the hell would be involved in all decisions on running it.
It's worked well for the Sabres for the past 6 years, lots of lottery chances.

TacklingDummy
04-12-2017, 07:46 AM
It's worked well for the Sabres for the past 6 years, lots of lottery chances.

It's not really about winning, winning is secondary, it's about making money.

If the Bills/Sabres happen to luck into some star players along the way that turn them into winners, that's great, even more money to be made.

kscdogbillsfan1221
04-12-2017, 08:15 AM
When Jerry Jones took over as owner for the Cowboys, he probably new squat, but now, acting as GM, he's built a pretty good team. I don't want Pegula making football positions, but I don't mind him taking an interest and learning the game on the inside.
I'm wondering (and this is pure speculation) if the recent success is more because of his son Stephen

WagonCircler
04-12-2017, 01:39 PM
The most interesting thing about this is the name that wasn't mentioned as being present at the workouts.

JoeMama
04-12-2017, 02:28 PM
The most interesting thing about this is the name that wasn't mentioned as being present at the workouts.

I was thinking the same thing and it concerns me.

The absence has been noticed and makes me wonder if other three workouts are a smokescreen for the real guy they want.

I don't care what anybody says, I do not see a happy NFL career for Deshaun Watson.

Wayyyyyy too many similarities to our most recent busts at the position.

JoeMama
04-12-2017, 02:50 PM
This.


4/8/17: I surveyed teams around the league to see where their initial draft grades were for Watson. Two playoff teams told me they had third-round grades on Watson. One said it was on the low end as a third- to fourth-rounder. Another playoff team told Walt that they had a third-round grade on Watson. Two other teams said they had second-round grades on Watson. However, a number of team sources think that Watson would still be a first-round quarterback, and similar to Teddy Bridgewater a team could trade back into the first round because of the dire need at the position across the NFL. Watson benefits from comparisons to Dak Prescott and also benefits from coaches getting involved in the draft process during the spring in draft meetings. Watson threw the ball well at the combine and did well in the team interviews - as expected.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2017QB.php#ARhvsAPAiZH18EO3.99

SpikedLemonade
04-12-2017, 02:52 PM
Sigh. What in the blue hell does Pegula know about scouting Quarterbacks? I really hope he has zero say in the draft, but I somehow doubt that.
Pegula is one dumb bastard when it comes to pro sports ownership.

Go "dig another hole" you idiot.

Otherwise, hire a professional to manage your teams.

YardRat
04-12-2017, 05:51 PM
If I was a billionaire with an NFL team I'd be flying around in my private jet to player's work-outs too. I might do more listening and watching then talking, and not get involved in the scouting process, but I'd be there.

OLDSRIP
04-12-2017, 06:05 PM
If I was a billionaire with an NFL team I'd be flying around in my private jet to player's work-outs too. I might do more listening and watching then talking, and not get involved in the scouting process, but I'd be there.
I agree. Why wouldn't he be trying to learn as much as he could. He owns the team.

Now if he comes out and tells us he alone is making all the draft decisions. That would be a problem.

Night Train
04-12-2017, 07:31 PM
I agree. Why wouldn't he be trying to learn as much as he could. He owns the team.Now if he comes out and tells us he alone is making all the draft decisions. That would be a problem.

He isn't.

He ID's the one guy who shares his views in the strongest sense and grants that person the supreme power.

With the Sabres , it's Murray and the jury is still out on that but at least he gives him a chance to sink or swim.

And now McDermott has obviously been granted that status with the Bills and he rides along to learn.

I'm sure the position of integrity and accountability that McDermott preaches plays well with Penn St alum Pegula, who watched that football program experience the worst scandal ever. It also tells me he stopped listening to marketing jackass Brandon, who pushed Ryan on him.

This draft will have McDermott as the final voice...little question. Time will tell if it works but I hate group decisions. They never work. Listen to the most balanced guy in the room that does his detective work.

WagonCircler
04-12-2017, 08:14 PM
I was thinking the same thing and it concerns me.

The absence has been noticed and makes me wonder if other three workouts are a smokescreen for the real guy they want.

I don't care what anybody says, I do not see a happy NFL career for Deshaun Watson.

Wayyyyyy too many similarities to our most recent busts at the position.

If you're trying to create a smokescreen, you send the GM.

I don't think that's what this is.

I think Whaley GMINO.

BertSquirtgum
04-12-2017, 08:30 PM
Pegula is one dumb bastard when it comes to pro sports ownership.

Go "dig another hole" you idiot.

Otherwise, hire a professional to manage your teams.

You sound like a jealous ex-girlfriend.

WagonCircler
04-12-2017, 08:49 PM
You sound like a jealous ex-girlfriend.

Nah. More like jilted. His home town was as sure it was going to steal the Bills as Hillary was that she was going to be president.

mdcas22
04-12-2017, 09:12 PM
When Jerry Jones took over as owner for the Cowboys, he probably new squat, but now, acting as GM, he's built a pretty good team. I don't want Pegula making football positions, but I don't mind him taking an interest and learning the game on the inside.


I'm wondering (and this is pure speculation) if the recent success is more because of his son Stephen

you do no Jerry Played football at Arkansas and was teammates with Jimmy Johnson so its not like he doesn't no anything about football.

Mace
04-12-2017, 10:19 PM
Well good. If Terry Pegula evaluates anyone, I can be confident it will turn out just as dandy as other people he's evaluated.

WagonCircler
04-13-2017, 06:29 AM
you do no Jerry Played football at Arkansas and was teammates with Jimmy Johnson so its not like he doesn't no anything about football.

He "no's" as much about scouting and personnel as you do about grammar.

Mr. Magoo
04-13-2017, 06:44 AM
I was thinking the same thing and it concerns me.

The absence has been noticed and makes me wonder if other three workouts are a smokescreen for the real guy they want.

I don't care what anybody says, I do not see a happy NFL career for Deshaun Watson.

Wayyyyyy too many similarities to our most recent busts at the position.

That is what I am thinking also. Smokescreen and then trade back a few spots and take Corey Davis......there is something about this kid that is really interesting me.

JoeMama
04-13-2017, 09:08 AM
Nah. More like jilted. His home town was as sure it was going to steal the Bills as Hillary was that she was going to be president.

Hillary is a great analogy for the Bills, she knows how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory just like us!

JoeMama
04-13-2017, 09:27 AM
That is what I am thinking also. Smokescreen and then trade back a few spots and take Corey Davis......there is something about this kid that is really interesting me.

Impossible to deny the kid's potential. He was a man amongst boys in the FBS.

What's odd is I've seen him compared to Eric Decker. That seems like it's selling him a bit short.

Mr. Magoo
04-13-2017, 09:30 AM
Impossible to deny the kid's potential. He was a man amongst boys in the FBS.

What's odd is I've seen him compared to Eric Decker. That seems like it's selling him a bit short.
You should watch this....Blindside 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyKRe5jtjwA

JoeMama
04-13-2017, 10:12 AM
You should watch this....Blindside 2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyKRe5jtjwA

Wow it's ****ed up how incredible some of those catches are. Talk about hands.

Cali512
04-13-2017, 10:14 AM
I think Mahomes will either be the next elite big thing, or a Johnny Manziel esque bust. It scares me to take that type of chance on a player in the first especially where we would probably have to get him.

Mr. Magoo
04-13-2017, 10:18 AM
I think Mahomes will either be the next elite big thing, or a Johnny Manziel esque bust. It scares me to take that type of chance on a player in the first especially where we would probably have to get him.
Mahomes played in a Air Raid system and most of the time it doesn't translate well to the NFL.

JoeMama
04-13-2017, 10:20 AM
I think Mahomes will either be the next elite big thing, or a Johnny Manziel esque bust. It scares me to take that type of chance on a player in the first especially where we would probably have to get him.

Yeah the only things that sucks about his highlight reel is how stupidly open all his receivers are. You don't get to see him make many NFL type throws. And that's something you absolutely need to see before you take a guy in the 1st or 2nd.

Forward_Lateral
04-13-2017, 02:14 PM
Jerry Jones didn't win squat until Jimmy Johnson came along and basically told him he wouldn't stay if Jerry didn't keep his nose out.

Skooby
04-14-2017, 12:04 AM
Hillary is a great analogy for the Bills, she knows how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory just like us!
She also took in a lot of money from fans who've got nothing in the long run.

PrimeTime
04-14-2017, 10:19 AM
He is learning the game from the inside out.. he is taking due diligence... As a fairly new NFL owner.. get over it.. nothing to read here.

JoeMama
04-14-2017, 11:24 AM
He is learning the game from the inside out.. he is taking due diligence... As a fairly new NFL owner.. get over it.. nothing to read here.

Yeah. I think his hesitancy to clean house and start over is an acknowledgement he knows what he doesn't know about running a franchise right now. It'll come in time.

I'm simply grateful we have an owner who will not relocate the team.

BertSquirtgum
04-15-2017, 03:06 AM
Yeah. I think his hesitancy to clean house and start over is an acknowledgement he knows what he doesn't know about running a franchise right now. It'll come in time.

I'm simply grateful we have an owner who will not relocate the team.

This is why I will never disrespect him. Man spent 1.5 million dollars to keep Bills fans from losing their team. Yes, it is a great investment for him. But I believe he purchased based on emotions as well as business plans for it.

JoeMama
04-15-2017, 12:32 PM
This is why I will never disrespect him. Man spent 1.5 million dollars to keep Bills fans from losing their team. Yes, it is a great investment for him. But I believe he purchased based on emotions as well as business plans for it.

Wait what did you say?

All I do when you post is stare at your avatar.