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TigerJ
04-14-2017, 01:42 PM
They have 4 QBs on the roster right now: Tyrod, Cardale, TJ Yates, and camp arm Josh Woodrum. I assume that if the Bills draft a QB, Woodrum gets bumped from the roster the next day. That will leave them with a standard camp contingent of 4. What then do you do when you decide on the makeup of your roster. I think that will depend on what they really think of Cardale. If they really don't like him that much, it is an easy decision. He gets cut. Suppose they still do like him. I think at that point they will opt to carry 3 QBs on the 53 man roster - easier to do now that they won't need a kickoff specialist. They will decide after training camp whether they like Cardale more, or their yet to be determined rookie. The loser may end up on the PS, but stands a good chance of being snapped up by another QB hungry team. Of course, the round in which they pick him will have a lot to do with who sticks. Disagree? What do you think happens.

JoeMama
04-14-2017, 01:49 PM
Cardale Jones has shown flashes. Even though I didn't like the draft pick, I have to concede he's a better player than I gave him credit for.

He's a project, a developmental guy. I'd give him another 2 years unless they believe he is not progressing.

Therefore I'd feel at least a little hesitant to cut him or place him on the PS.

Because you're right, Taylor and Yates ain't going nowhere.

sudzy
04-14-2017, 02:49 PM
Cardale Jones, please report to the practice squad. Cardale Jones, please report to the practice squad.

justasportsfan
04-14-2017, 03:33 PM
No one was given a starter contract so let the camp battle begin and may the best one start.

Wally The Barber
04-14-2017, 03:37 PM
Lets bring in a couple hundred, the guy on the bumper with read coat has a hell of an arm

17960

TigerJ
04-14-2017, 03:37 PM
Because you're right, Taylor and Yates ain't going nowhere. That's my assumption, that in 2017 Taylor and Yates are roster locks.

TigerJ
04-14-2017, 03:40 PM
No one was given a starter contract so let the camp battle begin and may the best one start.Technically, no, but I'll be more than a little surprised if come day one of the season Taylor is not the starter. I won't be surprised at all if he is not the starter in 2018.

YardRat
04-14-2017, 04:31 PM
They draft Chad Kelly in the third (or fourth if they pick one up via trade), put him on an injured list for the year, roll with Tyrod, Yates and Jones on the roster, figure out who to keep going forward next season.

Wally The Barber
04-14-2017, 04:39 PM
Another quarterback that the fans will LOVE for about 3 months

justasportsfan
04-14-2017, 04:49 PM
Technically, no, but I'll be more than a little surprised if come day one of the season Taylor is not the starter. I won't be surprised at all if he is not the starter in 2018.

Anyone is getting a fresh start under MCDermott. Taylor is not a great passer. If Cardale or anyone does a better job I dont think Taylor starts.

Night Train
04-14-2017, 05:40 PM
I could only see it if the Bills traded down and acquired additional picks to justify a QB selection.

Bills need players that can play a lot right away. No projects.

OLB, Secondary, WR seem to be the most needy positions if we have but 6 picks.

TigerJ
04-14-2017, 08:06 PM
On Path to the Draft (NFL Network) today they were doing a mock draft with trades. I had to leave before the first round was completed, but they had Buffalo dropping to 19 in a trade with the Buccaneers. That's a little low for my taste, but I'd consider it if Tampa offered enough picks. That might be a good spot for a QB not named EJ Manuel.

BertSquirtgum
04-15-2017, 03:01 AM
I think they draft a QB in the later rounds and whichever plays worse of the two(Cardale or rookie).....will be put on the practice squad. I'm hoping Chad Kelly drops to the fifth or sixth and the Bills draft him.

kishoph
04-15-2017, 03:26 AM
Anyone is getting a fresh start under MCDermott. Taylor is not a great passer. If Cardale or anyone does a better job I dont think Taylor starts.

When they signed Yates, I remember hearing they told him it was not to compete for the starting job, if that is true, it's a mistake IMO. I imagine it would be so they can establish that Taylor is going to get the majority of reps in camp, but why would you tell a backup, he has no chance to battle for the starting spot ?

BertSquirtgum
04-15-2017, 04:08 AM
When they signed Yates, I remember hearing they told him it was not to compete for the starting job, if that is true, it's a mistake IMO. I imagine it would be so they can establish that Taylor is going to get the majority of reps in camp, but why would you tell a backup, he has no chance to battle for the starting spot ?
Competition is good for everyone. Would be pretty stupid of the Bills if they told Yates he was the back up and tell Tyrod he's the guaranteed starter. A competition would make Tyrod play better in my opinion. He may even have gotten beat out by Yates because he's a way better passer.

SpikedLemonade
04-15-2017, 05:22 AM
They draft Chad Kelly in the third (or fourth if they pick one up via trade), put him on an injured list for the year, roll with Tyrod, Yates and Jones on the roster, figure out who to keep going forward next season.

That is a recipe to guaranteeing no play-off appearance until at least 2022.

Night Train
04-15-2017, 07:10 AM
On Path to the Draft (NFL Network) today they were doing a mock draft with trades. I had to leave before the first round was completed, but they had Buffalo dropping to 19 in a trade with the Buccaneers. That's a little low for my taste, but I'd consider it if Tampa offered enough picks. That might be a good spot for a QB not named EJ Manuel.

The other night, ESPN did a pretend draft where people on the panel played front office people. Lots of trades.

At #10, they had us taking OLB Hassan Reddick of Temple. I'd be more than fine with that.

Bill Cody
04-15-2017, 09:58 PM
I think we keep Cardale Jones another 2 years....and then cut him

Yates? Sigh. Jeff Tuel 2.0

None of it matters folks. We're looking at QB's because...we don't have the guy we need, that's it

stuckincincy
04-15-2017, 10:52 PM
I think we keep Cardale Jones another 2 years....and then cut him

Yates? Sigh. Jeff Tuel 2.0

None of it matters folks. We're looking at QB's because...we don't have the guy we need, that's it

Yep.

Generalissimus Gibby
04-16-2017, 02:16 AM
Well he will be a dud, but then again the earth won't crash into the sun so it all balances out in the end

Skooby
04-16-2017, 12:17 PM
Well he will be a dud, but then again the earth won't crash into the sun so it all balances out in the end
Lay off the drugs son.

Albany,n.y.
04-16-2017, 12:44 PM
If they draft a QB in the 1st 2 rounds, Cardale is gone. If they don't draft a QB early, they're not drafting one & Cardale's pre-season play determines whether he is either 3rd string or McD goes with 2 QBs opening day with a PS QB, who if he clears waivers, is Cardale.

Or...they draft a QB early and trade Tyrod and have a 3 way battle in camp between draftee, Cardale & Yates. .

YardRat
04-16-2017, 03:01 PM
I don't see McDermott jettisoning Taylor in favor of a QB battle between two unknowns and a 'meh'. Still like my idea best, draft a QB and stash him on an injured list for a season and clarify the position next year.

The Jokeman
04-17-2017, 03:45 PM
Anyone is getting a fresh start under MCDermott. Taylor is not a great passer. If Cardale or anyone does a better job I dont think Taylor starts.

Taylor's on a bridge deal. I think we build Cardale and might take a QB to compete with him yet wouldn't be shocked if wait on drafting a QB until next year.

Mouldsie
04-17-2017, 10:38 PM
They draft Chad Kelly in the third (or fourth if they pick one up via trade), put him on an injured list for the year, roll with Tyrod, Yates and Jones on the roster, figure out who to keep going forward next season.

This is the best QB idea I have seen yet.... because it doesn't take away our chance at one of the 2018 QB's and still gets us a solid prospect in the pipeline.

stuckincincy
04-17-2017, 10:53 PM
This is the best QB idea I have seen yet.... because it doesn't take away our chance at one of the 2018 QB's and still gets us a solid prospect in the pipeline.

It is a decent idea, but BUF has but 6 picks in the draft so far. Spending their 3rd for him could be a problem. Dunno.

Mouldsie
04-17-2017, 10:57 PM
It is a decent idea, but BUF has but 6 picks in the draft so far. Spending their 3rd for him could be a problem. Dunno.

IDK if he goes before the 5th...

stuckincincy
04-17-2017, 11:11 PM
IDK if he goes before the 5th...

So many lower round trades these days...my pure speculation is that some club with a fistful of picks may grab him in the 4th. Who knows?

I'm hoping you post more as draft time nears. I appreciate your views.

Mouldsie
04-17-2017, 11:34 PM
So many lower round trades these days...my pure speculation is that some club with a fistful of picks may grab him in the 4th. Who knows?

I'm hoping you post more as draft time nears. I appreciate your views.

Yeah. You never know with QB.... but given his 2 ACL's injuries, wrist injury, and off the field transgressions I would still be a little surprised to see him before the 5th.

If the media is on to anything then Trubisky, Kizer, Watson, Mahomes, Peterman, Webb, & Kaaya will all go before him as well as possibly Jerod Evans and Josh Dobbs.

That's 7-9 QB's off the board to QB needy teams and those teams will likely not take Kelly so that leaves us with 23-24 teams that still could take a flier on him so it def possible.

Of those teams you would think the Titans, Bucs, Panthers, Packers, Colts, Rams, Eagles, Ravens, Broncos, Falcons, & Cowboys would be unlikely to draft him early so that still leaves 11 teams besides the Bills that would be a risk to take him after the other 8-9 guys are off the board. That could def happen in the bottom of round 4 because that's when some teams start drafting without the expectation of getting year 1 starters. I suppose a good GM would have his pulse on how the board is falling and be on the phones with teams surrounding those that might be a risk to take him (Chiefs, Giants, Steelers, Cardinals, etc). Last year 9 QB's went in rounds 1-4 so if Kelly were the 8th-10th QB off the board he would be right in that bottom of the 4th to 5th round range.

The more I think about it the more I agree with you.
If he goes before the 5th then I hope Ragland was worth it.

Skooby
04-18-2017, 05:41 AM
UDFA, he's walking IR right now and there's no way he looks to hold up like Jimbo did.

JoeMama
04-18-2017, 09:20 AM
Blech. Chad Kelly.

I could see us maybe - MAYBE - using our final draft pick to draft Kelly as a courtesy to his family.

But I want nothing to do with the guy.

Injury prone sack machine with a poor attitude.

sukie
04-18-2017, 10:35 AM
Blech. Chad Kelly.

I could see us maybe - MAYBE - using our final draft pick to draft Kelly as a courtesy to his family.

But I want nothing to do with the guy.

Injury prone sack machine with a poor attitude.

There is no courtesy owed. Not one bit.

Now the GOOD thing about drafting a QB like Kelly or Peterman, or any other white QB is that it shows how close to powerless Doug has become.

jimmifli
04-18-2017, 01:10 PM
Injury prone sack machine with a poor attitude.

Hmmm, how does he throw with only one shoe?

JoeMama
04-18-2017, 02:29 PM
Hmmm, how does he throw with only one shoe?

Yeah and how hunky is he on a scale from 1-10? How does he look in a blue bandana?

These are make or break questions.

jimmifli
04-18-2017, 02:32 PM
Dude has ring. You've convinced me, we should draft Chad. Or better yet let someone else draft him in the 4th and then we can trade next year's 1st.