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Night Train
04-26-2017, 08:57 AM
His QB series is always a good watch on ESPN. Final comments.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/ESPNs-Jon-Gruden-Analyzes-2017-QB-Draft-Class/34fb81af-bc56-46d5-be7d-bf33e323bbcf

TigerJ
04-26-2017, 09:51 AM
A couple of questions for discussion: Suppose Buffalo doesn't draft a QB in the first couple rounds - is there any point drafting one later? Which one of the QBs in this article would you pick up if you did draft later. I'm starting to think Dobbs might be worth developing. You might get away with stashing him on your PS for a year.

justasportsfan
04-26-2017, 09:54 AM
Has Gruden ever said anything bad about any qb ever?

Cali512
04-26-2017, 11:05 AM
I can't watch Gruden. He is severely overrated as a QB evaluator. He never had a good QB on his roster, never developed a QB, and never even was a QB coach. He knows next to nothing about QBs

The last buffalo fan
04-26-2017, 11:38 AM
I can't watch Gruden. He is severely overrated as a QB evaluator. He never had a good QB on his roster, never developed a QB, and never even was a QB coach. He knows next to nothing about QBs
And yet he has more sb rings than the city of Buffalo.

swiper
04-26-2017, 01:14 PM
His QB series is always a good watch on ESPN. Final comments.

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2/ESPNs-Jon-Gruden-Analyzes-2017-QB-Draft-Class/34fb81af-bc56-46d5-be7d-bf33e323bbcf

I like Davis Webb the more I hear about him.

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I can't watch Gruden. He is severely overrated as a QB evaluator. He never had a good QB on his roster, never developed a QB, and never even was a QB coach. He knows next to nothing about QBs

Well he's way off on Peterman for certain.

jamze132
04-26-2017, 03:41 PM
A couple of questions for discussion: Suppose Buffalo doesn't draft a QB in the first couple rounds - is there any point drafting one later? Which one of the QBs in this article would you pick up if you did draft later. I'm starting to think Dobbs might be worth developing. You might get away with stashing him on your PS for a year.
I'd love to grab Dobbs and have him sit for a year or two. Love me some Kaya too.

Cali512
04-26-2017, 03:48 PM
And yet he has more sb rings than the city of Buffalo.


He has one thanks to having one of the best defenses in superbowl history. If the bills of the 90s faced any of Grudens teams, we would have won every game

Cali512
04-26-2017, 03:51 PM
I'd love to grab Dobbs and have him sit for a year or two. Love me some Kaya too.



Ehhh both are 7th round picks imo

Watson
Trubisky
Kelly
Mahomes
Davis
Kaya
Dobbs

The only player worthy of a first is Trubisky in an 10-15 (he reminds me of Tannehill)

Watson can be a Winston but also can be an EJ, he's so hard to evaluate


There is a good chance every player busts out and Mahomes and Kelly become steals

ParanoidAndroid
04-26-2017, 04:48 PM
Dobbs is actually a lot like Taylor. Smart with the ball, a good runner, and throws to receivers long after they uncover rather than anticipating.

Mace
04-26-2017, 06:42 PM
A couple of questions for discussion: Suppose Buffalo doesn't draft a QB in the first couple rounds - is there any point drafting one later? Which one of the QBs in this article would you pick up if you did draft later. I'm starting to think Dobbs might be worth developing. You might get away with stashing him on your PS for a year.

Peterman if he's there and you're looking for a more conventional QB. Dobbs if you want to stay Taylor-sh. Chad Kelly if you're ballsy and want to gamble all or nothing.

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Has Gruden ever said anything bad about any qb ever?

He did in the article, diplomatically.

kishoph
04-27-2017, 11:11 AM
Well he's way off on Peterman for certain.

I like Peterman, I think he'd be a great fit if the Bills are going to go with a West Coast Offense.

Forward_Lateral
04-27-2017, 11:14 AM
Just one time I want to hear Gruden say a QB sucks.

I don't think he's ever said those words publicly

ublinkwescore
04-29-2017, 04:42 AM
I can't watch Gruden. He is severely overrated as a QB evaluator. He never had a good QB on his roster, never developed a QB, and never even was a QB coach. He knows next to nothing about QBs

Rich Gannon was actually VERY good for him and the Raiders...

swiper
04-29-2017, 04:47 AM
Gruden's comments on QBs are 100% useless. He never is critical of any one of them.

TigerJ
04-29-2017, 07:59 PM
It's obvious why Gruden doesn't say anything overtly derogatory about any QB who participates in his QB camp. Participation in the camp is part of the pre-draft hype that QBs go through to increase their visibility and hopefully enhance their draft status. If there was a possibility of really critical stuff being said, QBs might start declining the invitation to participate. That decreases Gruden's value to ESPN. You have to look at the positive stuff he says, and decide if QB A's positives are a better fit for your team's needs than the positives of QBs B, C, or D. What you get with Peterman is pro readiness and the ability to digest an offense quickly. Someone else may give you the big arm, or athleticism an mobility, or improvisational ability.

stuckincincy
04-29-2017, 09:34 PM
there's no business like show business.