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  • whkfc
    Theres Fast Food, Then Theres KFC
    • May 2003
    • 283

    In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

    Picks on corners as the Bill's. Seems like every year they use the top pick on a dB. You think maybe that's why we suckered every year?
  • Novacane
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 42355

    #2
    Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

    If at first you don't succeed try try try try try try try try try try try try try again

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    • THE END OF ALL DAYS
      The Allen Era has begun.... no looking back now, come hell or high water!
      • Feb 2005
      • 4525

      #3
      Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

      Not many teams have to face tomfugginbrady two times a year. He forces us to draft corners
      In my day we did not have self-esteem... we had self-respect, and no more of it then we earned.

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      • MitchMurrayDowntown
        Skoobasaurus-Rex
        • Oct 2011
        • 22284

        #4
        Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

        Originally posted by Why so Serious? View Post
        Not many teams have to face tomfugginbrady two times a year. He forces us to draft corners
        We only faced her once last season.

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        • Historian
          2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
          • Dec 2002
          • 61779

          #5
          Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

          You have to draft to counter the teams in your division.

          That's why the Patriots drafted Armstrong, and the fish drafted Webb when we had Bruce steamrolling around the end.

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          • cookie G
            Registered User
            • Mar 2003
            • 7566

            #6
            Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

            Originally posted by Historian View Post
            You have to draft to counter the teams in your division.
            mmhmm..

            Its worked so well too.

            You'd kinda hope that after 10...15 years...they'd come around to realize that plan isn't working.

            But w/e... looking forward to the 20th anniversary gala of the last playoff appearance in a few years.

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            • Historian
              2020-2023 AFC East Champions!
              • Dec 2002
              • 61779

              #7
              Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

              I didn't say they made good player choices, only that there was probably a strategy.

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              • TacklingDummy
                Unreachable Douche
                • Jul 2002
                • 71725

                #8
                Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                Originally posted by whkfc View Post
                Picks on corners as the Bill's. Seems like every year they use the top pick on a dB. You think maybe that's why we suckered every year?
                The Bills have a patent on secondary training for the rest of NFL.

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                • Joe Fo Sho
                  Making Spirits Bright
                  • Mar 2006
                  • 6194

                  #9
                  Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                  Originally posted by Why so Serious? View Post
                  Not many teams have to face tomfugginbrady two times a year. He forces us to draft corners
                  You don't beat good quarterbacks with good cornerbacks, you beat them with your pass rush. Good QBs/Offensive systems can easily take a single CB out of their gameplan and take advantage of the other 10 guys on the field. Not to mention there isn't a single CB on the planet that can cover a Edelman/Welker type WR for longer than 5 seconds.

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                  • Jry44
                    Registered User
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 607

                    #10
                    Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                    Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                    You don't beat good quarterbacks with good cornerbacks, you beat them with your pass rush. Good QBs/Offensive systems can easily take a single CB out of their gameplan and take advantage of the other 10 guys on the field. Not to mention there isn't a single CB on the planet that can cover a Edelman/Welker type WR for longer than 5 seconds.
                    Unless you get in their face and press them (boggles my mind how more teams don't do this). White excels at that.

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                    • Joe Fo Sho
                      Making Spirits Bright
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 6194

                      #11
                      Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                      Originally posted by Jry44 View Post
                      Unless you get in their face and press them (boggles my mind how more teams don't do this). White excels at that.
                      I'd love to see how Edelman performs vs press, vs man, vs off man, vs zone. I can't say for sure, but I really think he's been successful against all of them. It's why he's so hard to stop, especially with Brady throwing him his soft balls.

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                      • Jry44
                        Registered User
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 607

                        #12
                        Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                        Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                        I'd love to see how Edelman performs vs press, vs man, vs off man, vs zone. I can't say for sure, but I really think he's been successful against all of them. It's why he's so hard to stop, especially with Brady throwing him his soft balls.
                        I made it a point to see how Rex was playing them last year. Edelman comes out of the slot, so I can see how it would be tough to get hands on him. But Rex avoided it and always played off. Maybe he was afraid of getting beat by it? Paying soft and giving Brady time, I feel, is a worse approach than getting in the face of smaller receivers and disrupting their timing. You've got 5 yards to beat those little bastards up, so I say take your chances. If you give up one or two big plays, then so beat it. It beats letting them nickel and dome you down the field every drive.

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                        • Thurmal
                          Registered User
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 2412

                          #13
                          Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                          The Bills are actually great at evaluating CB talent. Problem is, they always let them walk, hence the need to continue spending high picks on them.
                          "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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                          • Jry44
                            Registered User
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 607

                            #14
                            Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                            Originally posted by Thurmal View Post
                            The Bills are actually great at evaluating CB talent. Problem is, they always let them walk, hence the need to continue spending high picks on them.
                            Of the three good ones they have let walk, I would argue that two were justified (Clements and Gilmore).
                            I loved Winfield.

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                            • Joe Fo Sho
                              Making Spirits Bright
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 6194

                              #15
                              Re: In the last 20 years has any other team spent more of their top

                              Originally posted by Jry44 View Post
                              I made it a point to see how Rex was playing them last year. Edelman comes out of the slot, so I can see how it would be tough to get hands on him. But Rex avoided it and always played off. Maybe he was afraid of getting beat by it? Paying soft and giving Brady time, I feel, is a worse approach than getting in the face of smaller receivers and disrupting their timing. You've got 5 yards to beat those little bastards up, so I say take your chances. If you give up one or two big plays, then so beat it. It beats letting them nickel and dome you down the field every drive.
                              Brady's weakness has always been the pass rush, though. It's almost every QB's weakness. Sure, the press might win against Edelman initially, but after 5 seconds of man coverage, he'll be open. If you combine a good pass rush with your CB's taking away the quick stuff, it's very hard to beat. With that style of defense, the majority of CB starters in the NFL will succeed. No need to overpay/overdraft one. If that style of defense were easy to imitate everyone would be doing it, though.

                              I'm OK with the CB pick, but mostly because we moved down and got an extra 1st rounder. My least favorite positions for our pick at 10 were, in order, RB-->TE-->WR-->CB.

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