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  • Buffalogic
    Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
    • Feb 2006
    • 5345

    Lots fired

    The Bills announced that General Manager Doug Whaley has been fired early on Sunday and they confirmed more departures later in the day.


    Monos, Fisher. Overdorf possibly soon.
  • Buffalogic
    Rumblin' Stumblin' Bumblin'
    • Feb 2006
    • 5345

    #2
    Re: Lots fired

    Also mentions Whaley ran this draft, not McDermott.

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    • Manwiththeplan
      Registered User
      • Aug 2014
      • 46

      #3
      Re: Lots fired

      Line em up.

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      • Buddo
        Registered User
        • Mar 2007
        • 1864

        #4
        Re: Lots fired

        This is exactly what I feared would be the case. The Pro-Personnel/FA side of things, have pretty much consistently done good work, and we just throw that away, and have to start again. I'm not too sure wtf the Pegulas were evaluating, but it sure wasn't that.

        Just when we might have got the right guy as HC, we stuff things up by giving him the keys to the kingdom, and if he's not up to one part of the job, everyone loses out.

        The Pegulas would appear to be in one of those 'two steps forward, one step back' modes.

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        • Swiper
          Registered User
          • Sep 2010
          • 33105

          #5
          Re: Lots fired

          The pro personnel folks have done some good work. No more, no less than expected such a team should do. For every player they hit on you can name one if not two they missed on.

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          • Turf
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 8376

            #6
            Re: Lots fired

            Originally posted by Buddo View Post
            This is exactly what I feared would be the case. The Pro-Personnel/FA side of things, have pretty much consistently done good work, and we just throw that away, and have to start again. I'm not too sure wtf the Pegulas were evaluating, but it sure wasn't that.

            Just when we might have got the right guy as HC, we stuff things up by giving him the keys to the kingdom, and if he's not up to one part of the job, everyone loses out.

            The Pegulas would appear to be in one of those 'two steps forward, one step back' modes.
            I don't see why we should be enamored with mediocrity and failure. We're not losing anything valuable. I think Pegula finally knows what he's looking for.
            Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.

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            • SpikedLemonade
              • May 2024

              #7
              Re: Lots fired

              Originally posted by Turf View Post
              I don't see why we should be enamored with mediocrity and failure. We're not losing anything valuable. I think Pegula finally knows what he's looking for.
              Well, if that is true, the DP should be hiring an experienced NFL Football Executive/Guru/VP--Football/Whatever to run this thing because the DP is embarrassing himself.

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              • streetkings01
                Registered User
                • Jul 2006
                • 2980

                #8
                Re: Lots fired

                I highly doubt Whaley ran the draft..........the Pegulas just don't want to totally throw dirt on Whaley so clearly they're throwing him a small bone.
                You can call me streetkings

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                • SpikedLemonade
                  • May 2024

                  #9
                  Re: Lots fired

                  Originally posted by streetkings01 View Post
                  I highly doubt Whaley ran the draft..........the Pegulas just don't want to totally throw dirt on Whaley so clearly they're throwing him a small bone.

                  In return for all the big bone Doug threw in her.

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                  • EDS
                    Registered User
                    • Jan 2003
                    • 5216

                    #10
                    Re: Lots fired

                    This franchise is so backwards. Why wouldn't you do this after the season so you can get your new GM to hire the coach and draft the players he wants. Now all this does is give the franchise few years of additional excuses: (a) year 1 recovering from Whaley; (b) year two new GM getting feet wet/fixing prior mess; (c) new GM needs his coach; (d) year four new coach/new schemes need time; etc.

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                    • SpikedLemonade
                      • May 2024

                      #11
                      Re: Lots fired

                      WTF?

                      Who is Lots?

                      Is he the guy who removes the hair from the drains in the shower?

                      God Damn it!

                      He was THE best.

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                      • Manwiththeplan
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2014
                        • 46

                        #12
                        Re: Lots fired

                        Originally posted by EDS View Post
                        This franchise is so backwards. Why wouldn't you do this after the season so you can get your new GM to hire the coach and draft the players he wants. Now all this does is give the franchise few years of additional excuses: (a) year 1 recovering from Whaley; (b) year two new GM getting feet wet/fixing prior mess; (c) new GM needs his coach; (d) year four new coach/new schemes need time; etc.
                        if said gm comes from the same place the head coach came from, he already has his coach. I'm not saying it's not a bit backwards. Maybe after McD came in and talked to pegulas and pointed out certain obvious flaws with whaley and then they did some research, they came to the conclusion that in the long run Whaley just isnt helping the team or the coaches. seems to me that whaley has had friction with every coach that we have had.

                        You can say Whaley had a hand in the draft all you want but look at where players were drafted from under Nix and Whaley in previous years...now look at this draft...totally different.

                        Plus there is no year recovering from Whaley....draft is over... by next year new scouts and gm will be in place and life will go on.

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                        • Night Train
                          Retired - On Several Levels
                          • Jul 2005
                          • 33117

                          #13
                          Re: Lots fired

                          The presser is just a performance and nothing more.
                          Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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                          • EDS
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2003
                            • 5216

                            #14
                            Re: Lots fired

                            Originally posted by Manwiththeplan View Post
                            if said gm comes from the same place the head coach came from, he already has his coach. I'm not saying it's not a bit backwards. Maybe after McD came in and talked to pegulas and pointed out certain obvious flaws with whaley and then they did some research, they came to the conclusion that in the long run Whaley just isnt helping the team or the coaches. seems to me that whaley has had friction with every coach that we have had.

                            You can say Whaley had a hand in the draft all you want but look at where players were drafted from under Nix and Whaley in previous years...now look at this draft...totally different.

                            Plus there is no year recovering from Whaley....draft is over... by next year new scouts and gm will be in place and life will go on.
                            Top two picks were from the south east region, the Bills main draft stomping grounds from Nix through Whaley.

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                            • Manwiththeplan
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2014
                              • 46

                              #15
                              Re: Lots fired

                              Originally posted by EDS View Post
                              Top two picks were from the south east region, the Bills main draft stomping grounds from Nix through Whaley.
                              true...though no Clemson, no Alabama.

                              Interesting to see what the trend is next year.

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