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Mace
05-27-2017, 09:30 PM
Never saw this mentioned.

No secret I hate Tampa-2, which I felt was telegraphed by Frazier, LB, and DB coaches. bit when TBN talked to Frazier he said :


“We had a system that we talked about prior to getting here and it was based on a 4-3, not anything that has happened here in the past and we tried to really put that conceptually together and we feel good about the direction that it’s gone.”

http://buffalonews.com/2017/05/20/keep-simple-good-rallying-cry-bills-2017-defense/

Maybe...just maybe...could we be seeing the birth of a new defensive scheme ? Have to figure it will have heavy cover-2 influence no matter, but it caught my interest.

Turf
05-27-2017, 09:40 PM
Ahhh... za 6-2........ No one remembers Peters Sellers....

Manwiththeplan
05-27-2017, 10:28 PM
Hopefully it has new concepts like, tackling.

Cali512
05-27-2017, 11:40 PM
I always thought that a new defensive position should be made. Every player type has a position, but there is no position for a 6-5 210-230 lb defensive player. So we have TEs and big bodied wide receivers, we have no defensive position

Eventually teams will run more of a 4-2 with 3 safetys, one player being this stature. Think about it, RB/FB are also linebackers, OL are DL, small WRs are CBs and safeties. QBs are punters and kickers. There is no defensive player for the player type of a big TE, and big WR. With how much of an exploit TEs and big WRs are, we will eventually have a different position

kishoph
05-28-2017, 03:15 AM
I always thought that a new defensive position should be made. Every player type has a position, but there is no position for a 6-5 210-230 lb defensive player. So we have TEs and big bodied wide receivers, we have no defensive position


I'd guess the average size of a TE in today's game is probably about 250 lbs. You might be hard pressed to find a TE playing at 230 lbs. There are some pretty good DE's that play around 250 lbs. (maybe a little heavier). Jerry Hughes who most likely will be moved back to DE is just over 250 lbs.

Night Train
05-28-2017, 06:18 AM
With D minded HC McDermott obviously the boss here, the D was going to be his D.

He was never going to let Frazier do whatever he wanted. They worked together years back in a Jim Johnson D in Philly and it was strictly a guy he knew and trusted.

TAMPA 2 ! TAMPA 2 ! WOLF,WOLF,WOLF ! Sure played well upon his hire.

YardRat
05-28-2017, 07:31 AM
There's a special place for guys that are too small to play LBer, and too big to play safety...

http://www.halfassedproductions.com/articles/120105/4toys.jpg

DraftBoy
05-28-2017, 10:02 AM
There's a special place for guys that are too small to play LBer, and too big to play safety...

http://www.halfassedproductions.com/articles/120105/4toys.jpg

The Taylor Mays Retirement Home?

SpikedLemonade
05-28-2017, 10:25 AM
Ahhh... za 6-2........ No one remembers Peters Sellers....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFKJuzrCGj4

Mace
05-28-2017, 07:12 PM
Hopefully it has new concepts like, tackling.

Whoa lil' buckaroo ! It would be good if they have the right number of players on the field for a series first.

SpikedLemonade
05-28-2017, 07:19 PM
Whoa lil' buckaroo ! It would be good if they have the right number of players on the field for a series first.

That was such an embarrassment.

Did Rob Ryan NOT watch Sesame Street when he was growing up? That fat MF'er could not count to 11.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKBzmHcl-Cs

Mace
05-28-2017, 07:24 PM
With D minded HC McDermott obviously the boss here, the D was going to be his D.

He was never going to let Frazier do whatever he wanted. They worked together years back in a Jim Johnson D in Philly and it was strictly a guy he knew and trusted.

TAMPA 2 ! TAMPA 2 ! WOLF,WOLF,WOLF ! Sure played well upon his hire.

Dunno, you could probably also interpret his statement as Tampa-2, but I'm trying to be optimistic.

SpikedLemonade
05-28-2017, 07:27 PM
Dunno, you could probably also interpret his statement as Tampa-2, but I'm trying to be optimistic.

That is really all we can do at this point.

Mace
05-28-2017, 07:41 PM
That is really all we can do at this point.

Always and ever until the death rattle gets too loud to ignore. I mean, something has to work someday.

YardRat
05-28-2017, 08:35 PM
We've already got Mike, Sam and Will, maybe we can refer to the misfit tweener as 'Mace'.

"Yeah, but who are we going to start at Mace?" has a nice flow and sounds pretty cool.

SpikedLemonade
05-28-2017, 08:43 PM
We've already got Mike, Sam and Will, maybe we can refer to the misfit tweener as 'Mace'.

"Yeah, but who are we going to start at Mace?" has a nice flow and sounds pretty cool.

Mace already has a job....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8kPqAV_74M&t=1s

Mace
05-28-2017, 08:56 PM
We've already got Mike, Sam and Will, maybe we can refer to the misfit tweener as 'Mace'.

"Yeah, but who are we going to start at Mace?" has a nice flow and sounds pretty cool.

Mace probably wouldn't be the tweener though. Would be the early career Ndamukong Suh bludgeoning role we haven't been able to fill since cutting Jordan Gay after misusing him as a kicker.

Mace
05-28-2017, 08:57 PM
Mace already has a job....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8kPqAV_74M&t=1s

I don't run a pawn shop anymore though.

YardRat
05-28-2017, 08:58 PM
I'm gonna use it. Maybe it will catch on.

Mace
05-28-2017, 09:28 PM
I'm gonna use it. Maybe it will catch on.

Don't be too surprised then when the injured reserve rookies become known as the Yardrats.

TigerJ
05-28-2017, 09:57 PM
It is not going to be a clone of the Panthers' defense the last few years because Buffalo has nothing like a Luke Kuechly. He is a difference maker who allows you to do things that you couldn't do with ordinary athletes. I don't expect a pure "Tampa Two" per se, but the wrinkles are going to depend on the capabilities of the players we have.

Manwiththeplan
05-29-2017, 12:21 AM
Whoa lil' buckaroo ! It would be good if they have the right number of players on the field for a series first.

Aye...that would be another nice concept in its own right. Maybe, how to count to 11 should be a found in step chapter 1, step A in " Basics of being a head coach or sub servant to one"

SpikedLemonade
05-29-2017, 07:05 AM
Don't be too surprised then when the injured reserve rookies become known as the Yardrats.

LOL!!!!!!

The King
05-30-2017, 10:35 AM
I could never understand why a team with probably two of the best DT's would run a 3-4 it's just dumb beyond belief. The Cover 2 makes sense as we just invested in safeties, but I am most intrigued by letting Shaq and Hughes pressure consistently.