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  • The Toe Show
    Perfect Toes Everytime!
    • Sep 2012
    • 148

    Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)



    Fred Jackson is making waves trying to get back in the league. He plays in the Spring League Showcase game on July 15th.

    As the #1 Fred Jackson fan, I'll be rooting him on - bigly.

    I'd say we've signed 3 or 4 different players in an attempt to replace him: DiMarco (the pass-catcher), Tolbert (the pass-blocker), whatever Joe Banyard and Cedric can bring, he also has the goal-line / spell game we lost with Gil.

    So, to the Bills brass, here's how you rationalize it, assuming a passing-grade showcase:
    - locker-room leadership (fans don't actually know, but for #billsmafia it is unanimously accepted as a stone-cold fact)
    - karma (thanks Whaley - that move will go down as disturbingly petty, Reggie Bush had -17 yards rushing GOOD EYE, BRO!)
    - opening-day ticket sales, marketing (don't act like you don't know what i'm talking about, Russ)
    - save some cap while setting half our backfield free without upsetting a single fan
    - worst-case, going 6-10 becomes more palatable with a farewell tour

    What do you think will happen?
  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    #2
    Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

    If only we could reset father time.

    Who doesn't love Fred ?
    Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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    • YardRat
      Well, lookie here...
      • Dec 2004
      • 86177

      #3
      Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

      Maybe the biggest mistake made during the Whaley/Wrecks fiasco.
      YardRat Wall of Fame
      #56 DARRYL TALLEY
      #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

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      • Homegrown
        Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom
        • Jul 2008
        • 2774

        #4
        Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

        Fred was awesome, imagine if we an offense of guys like Fred...and a defense with all Freds, and then at the intrasquad scrimmage, it was 11 Freds vs 11 Freds....22 Freds on the field, all wearing #22...whoa!,!

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        • Night Train
          Retired - On Several Levels
          • Jul 2005
          • 33117

          #5
          Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

          Originally posted by Night Train View Post
          Who doesn't love Fred ?
          Oh, that's right...Whaley..
          Anonymity is an abused privilege, abused most by people who mistake vitriol for wisdom and cynicism for wit

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          • JoeMama
            Emotion Sickness
            • Oct 2002
            • 18183

            #6
            Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

            Originally posted by The Toe Show View Post
            http://www.buffalobills.com/video/au...f-66875e93eda4

            Fred Jackson is making waves trying to get back in the league. He plays in the Spring League Showcase game on July 15th.

            As the #1 Fred Jackson fan, I'll be rooting him on - bigly.

            I'd say we've signed 3 or 4 different players in an attempt to replace him: DiMarco (the pass-catcher), Tolbert (the pass-blocker), whatever Joe Banyard and Cedric can bring, he also has the goal-line / spell game we lost with Gil.

            So, to the Bills brass, here's how you rationalize it, assuming a passing-grade showcase:
            - locker-room leadership (fans don't actually know, but for #billsmafia it is unanimously accepted as a stone-cold fact)
            - karma (thanks Whaley - that move will go down as disturbingly petty, Reggie Bush had -17 yards rushing GOOD EYE, BRO!)
            - opening-day ticket sales, marketing (don't act like you don't know what i'm talking about, Russ)
            - save some cap while setting half our backfield free without upsetting a single fan
            - worst-case, going 6-10 becomes more palatable with a farewell tour

            What do you think will happen?
            Says you!
            Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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            • Thurmal
              Registered User
              • Oct 2005
              • 2412

              #7
              Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

              Originally posted by YardRat View Post
              Maybe the biggest mistake made during the Whaley/Wrecks fiasco.
              Would love to see an alternate universe where he stayed on the team, which, during those years, was DESPERATELY lacking in the leadership department. Maybe a guy like Karlos Williams, who looked to be a true late-round stud, has a decent role model and doesn't throw his career away. I think even a veteran presence like him in the huddle goes a long way towards calming nerves and, subsequently, maybe turning some close losses into wins.
              "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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              • Goobylal
                Registered User
                • Jan 2004
                • 19367

                #8
                Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                I'd love to bring him back as a coach.

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                • JoeMama
                  Emotion Sickness
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 18183

                  #9
                  Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                  Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                  I'd love to bring him back as a coach.
                  If there's anyway F-Jax can teach the kind of patience and vision that defined him as a player, he'd make one hell of an RB coach.

                  Leadership has always come naturally to him, so that's already a +1 in his favor if he takes up coaching.
                  Disclaimer: The sentiment expressed in this post is strictly for entertainment purposes only.

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                  • Luisito23
                    Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!!
                    • Apr 2003
                    • 7433

                    #10
                    Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                    Some of my best memories come from having watched Freddie run on Sundays...

                    He was humble and always gave it his best...

                    What's not to like?
                    Last edited by Luisito23; 06-23-2017, 10:03 PM.
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                    • Oaf
                      Do you read what you write?
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 6151

                      #11
                      Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                      According to that interview, Rex called Fred to bring him in before training camp, only for the Bills to opt for Bush instead.

                      What a terrible decision.

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                      • CoolBreeze
                        Registered User
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 1262

                        #12
                        Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                        I know most of you, like me hate Russ Brandon. But signing Fred Jackson to put asses in the seats is a total Russ Brandon thing to do. The love for Jackson here is still strong, so I would bet the idea has already been floating around in his head

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                        • Arm of Harm
                          Registered User
                          • Dec 2015
                          • 1683

                          #13
                          Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                          Originally posted by YardRat View Post
                          Maybe the biggest mistake made during the Whaley/Wrecks fiasco.
                          The biggest mistake during the Whaley era was the decision not to draft Derek Carr, because we were supposedly "all set" at QB with E.J. Manuel.

                          After being released by the Bills, Fred Jackson had 100 rushing yards for the Seattle Seahawks, averaging 3.8 yards per carry. He also had 257 receiving yards. Replacing Jackson with Reggie Bush was a mistake, because Jackson was the better of the two. But Doug Whaley made much, much bigger mistakes than that.

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                          • Goobylal
                            Registered User
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 19367

                            #14
                            Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                            The Bills weren't going to draft Carr a year after taking EJ. Especially with a bunch of other QB needy teams passing on him in the 1st round. The Raiders got lucky.

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                            • Arm of Harm
                              Registered User
                              • Dec 2015
                              • 1683

                              #15
                              Re: Fred Jackson PR Campaign and Spring League Game (FRED-WATCH)

                              Originally posted by Goobylal View Post
                              The Bills weren't going to draft Carr a year after taking EJ. Especially with a bunch of other QB needy teams passing on him in the 1st round. The Raiders got lucky.
                              The very instant they announced the Manuel pick, I felt a sense of sports-related heartbreak. For me the pick was as bad as the Music City Miracle; not as bad as Wide Right. In that instant I knew that Manuel would be "the plan" for the next several years; thereby precluding the Bills from using early picks on any other QB prospect. The Manuel pick also told me the Bills' front office couldn't evaluate QB talent; and that the team was very unlikely to find a successor to Jim Kelly while that front office remained intact.

                              Had the Bills hired a real GM immediately after the Manuel pick, it's quite possible they would have drafted Carr the next year. But instead of hiring a real GM, they hired the guy who'd prepared glowing recommendations for E.J. Manuel. Of course they weren't going to take Carr or any other QB in the first round at that point. The cause of EJ becoming "the plan" was the Bills' front office incompetence. That "plan" would not be changed until its underlying cause had been eliminated, or until Manuel's actual playing experience made it glaringly obvious, even to someone as obtuse as Whaley, that Manuel was not the answer at QB.

                              You wrote that the Raiders got lucky with Carr. Obviously, there's an element of luck with any draft pick. But there are also patterns, tendencies, probabilities. You draft the players who give you the best probability for success, knowing that no one draft pick represents a guarantee of anything. As a general rule, QBs selected primarily for their physical gifts--such as Losman and Manuel--represent a much lower probability of success than guys selected for their pocket passing, for their accuracy and rapid information processing. Derek Carr represented a much higher probability prospect than E.J. Manuel. Even though, before the fact, it would have been impossible for anyone to guarantee success for Carr or failure for Manuel, the Raiders certainly put themselves in a position where they were much, much more likely to experience success at the QB position than we were.
                              Last edited by Arm of Harm; 06-25-2017, 10:32 PM.

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