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  • DesertFox24
    Registered User
    • Jul 2005
    • 2129

    Why will they not Tank

    Seriously why not tank and get a top 3 pick in the draft. Then we could use the other 5 picks to hopefully get 2 starters.

    This stupid notion that we can be a competitive team when a new coaching staff and new defense is laughable, plus the division we are in it is impossible to win (unless Brady gets hurt/retires).

    Now we will finish 6-10 or 7-9 pick between 8 and 14th in the draft and have to use all these picks to get the QB.

    I would personally let Tyrod play 6-8 games if we are not in the division race at that time, cut him and let Peterman play.
  • MitchMurrayDowntown
    Skoobasaurus-Rex
    • Oct 2011
    • 22284

    #2
    Re: Why will they not Tank

    Exactly. If Peterman pulls a Dak, then our picks can go towards missing pieces. Odds are very high we will suck, so let's just go there early.

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    • Joe Fo Sho
      Making Spirits Bright
      • Mar 2006
      • 6194

      #3
      Re: Why will they not Tank

      How do the logistics of a tank work? Who's in on the tank? The players?

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      • The Toe Show
        Perfect Toes Everytime!
        • Sep 2012
        • 148

        #4
        Re: Why will they not Tank

        You just dump assets. You don't convince Kyle Williams to come back. You don't sign Hyde and Poyer. I didn't realize we were in trouble until the Sammy Trade. Now we're firmly positioned for a 6-10 type season.

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        • SpikedLemonade
          • Jun 2024

          #5
          Re: Why will they not Tank

          3-13.

          Dump Dareus just for a draft pick or two.

          Trade Shady for a 1st round or high 2nd round pick.

          Is Incognito worth anything?

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          • Thurmal
            Registered User
            • Oct 2005
            • 2412

            #6
            Re: Why will they not Tank

            The NFL isn't like the NBA, where any draft pick outside of the top 15 is historically worthless, plus picking a QB is a crapshoot anyway.

            If they "tank" and unload all assets, what happens when the new QB gets here? He has no help at all and gets his head kicked in and career ruined a la David Carr and Tim Couch?
            "Miami played pretty damn good today and still got their ass kicked."

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            • SpikedLemonade
              • Jun 2024

              #7
              Re: Why will they not Tank

              Originally posted by Thurmal View Post
              The NFL isn't like the NBA, where any draft pick outside of the top 15 is historically worthless, plus picking a QB is a crapshoot anyway.

              If they "tank" and unload all assets, what happens when the new QB gets here? He has no help at all and gets his head kicked in and career ruined a la David Carr and Tim Couch?
              We are not suggesting unloading all assets.

              Just those assets that will not be key assets when we are contenders in 2019 or beyond.

              Shady will not be an asset then.

              Nor will Dareus.

              Incognito will be leading rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia by then.

              Does another 6 or 7 win season really stroke your ego?

              Not me....Give me a 2017 3-13 season and I will be happy.

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              • MitchMurrayDowntown
                Skoobasaurus-Rex
                • Oct 2011
                • 22284

                #8
                Re: Why will they not Tank

                Originally posted by Thurmal View Post
                The NFL isn't like the NBA, where any draft pick outside of the top 15 is historically worthless, plus picking a QB is a crapshoot anyway.

                If they "tank" and unload all assets, what happens when the new QB gets here? He has no help at all and gets his head kicked in and career ruined a la David Carr and Tim Couch?
                You trade back up to 3rd spot, take the guy you wanted anyways and get that team's 1st next year - 1st / 2nd / 3rd this year, loading the team up with young talent. Bruce Smith got here with a first pick and Jimbo showed up after, so you can get some major talent early on. You can also argue that the early pick might bomb (our Mike Willams) but typically you'd get a very talented guy. Someone is going to really crank and rocket to the top of the draft, hopefully we are ready.

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                • MitchMurrayDowntown
                  Skoobasaurus-Rex
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 22284

                  #9
                  Re: Why will they not Tank

                  Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                  We are not suggesting unloading all assets.

                  Just those assets that will not be key assets when we are contenders in 2019 or beyond.

                  Shady will not be an asset then.

                  Nor will Dareus.

                  Incognito will be leading rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia by then.

                  Does another 6 or 7 win season really stroke your ego?

                  Not me....Give me a 2017 3-13 season and I will be happy.
                  Dareus has been a good guy this offseason so far, so discounting his future worth is foolish right now.

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                  • Bill Cody
                    Registered User
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 11905

                    #10
                    Re: Why will they not Tank

                    Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                    3-13.

                    Trade Shady for a 1st round or high 2nd round pick.
                    Sounds good. Which GM is on crack?

                    Is Incognito worth anything?
                    if you find the GM on crack anything's possible

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                    • Bill Cody
                      Registered User
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 11905

                      #11
                      Re: Why will they not Tank

                      Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                      Dareus has been a good guy this offseason so far, so discounting his future worth is foolish right now.
                      If someone wants to take on that contract and give us a 2nd I'll drive him to the airport and we can smoke a blunt on the way

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                      • Bill Cody
                        Registered User
                        • Sep 2004
                        • 11905

                        #12
                        Re: Why will they not Tank

                        Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                        Just those assets that will not be key assets when we are contenders in 2019 or beyond.
                        wow talk about a short list

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                        • SpikedLemonade
                          • Jun 2024

                          #13
                          Re: Why will they not Tank

                          Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                          Dareus has been a good guy this offseason so far, so discounting his future worth is foolish right now.
                          Dareus will NEVER play to that level of contract and in 2019 we will be just another overweight DT.

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                          • Joe Fo Sho
                            Making Spirits Bright
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 6194

                            #14
                            Re: Why will they not Tank

                            Originally posted by The Toe Show View Post
                            You just dump assets. You don't convince Kyle Williams to come back. You don't sign Hyde and Poyer. I didn't realize we were in trouble until the Sammy Trade. Now we're firmly positioned for a 6-10 type season.
                            So then we can't tank this year.

                            And we were a 6-10 team before the trades.

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                            • cookie G
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 7566

                              #15
                              Re: Why will they not Tank

                              Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                              We are not suggesting unloading all assets.

                              Just those assets that will not be key assets when we are contenders in 2019 or beyond.

                              Shady will not be an asset then.

                              Nor will Dareus.

                              Incognito will be leading rallies in Charlottesville, Virginia by then.

                              Does another 6 or 7 win season really stroke your ego?

                              Not me....Give me a 2017 3-13 season and I will be happy.
                              lol at the thought of being contenders in 2019, especially with the tear down you're envisioning.

                              2022 or beyond...and that's if everything goes right.

                              Considering we've hired a GM with minimal talent evaluation experience...and 0 experience in team building, there's going to be lots more misses than there are hits.

                              Being anywhere close to playoff caliber within 3 years, I'd put at less than 10%.

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