Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

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  • Night Train
    Retired - On Several Levels
    • Jul 2005
    • 33117

    Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

    You can work that with Peterman or your high pick next year.

    Yet Taylor is the 2017 QB...so..

    ROLL HIM OUT SO HE CAN SEE RECEIVERS OR TAKE OFF RUNNING !


    End of rant..
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  • YardRat
    Well, lookie here...
    • Dec 2004
    • 86210

    #2
    Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

    I don't think Dennison has a whole lot in his playbook focusing on roll outs, and if he does he hasn't unveiled it yet. Besides, Tyrod not seeing an open O'Leary on a roll out (true, it wasn't designed, but still...) isn't great evidence that it would help anyway. Nice gimmick play to throw out a couple of times each game, but if we have to cut the field in half in favor of the defense in order to (hopefully) help the QB be effective at an average level we might as well take the gamble on the other guy instead.
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    • Kenny
      Registered User
      • Aug 2004
      • 2728

      #3
      Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

      It's preseason. We're not going to open the playbook, and we're not going to have our starting QB go out there running out of the pocket and risking injury.

      Relax

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      • Mace
        Haha...yeah you think so ?
        • Mar 2013
        • 20315

        #4
        Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

        Don't get too upset about it yet, Dennison is typically involved in offenses that use bootlegs and play action frequently besides pocket work. I think this is just typical vanilla preseason playcalling.

        This feature could also be titled the Gary Kubiak or Mike Shanahan Offense. It closely examines new Bills offensive coordinator Rick Dennison’s system and philosophies.

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        • Novacane
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 42359

          #5
          Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

          Tyrod just plain stinks.

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          • Mace
            Haha...yeah you think so ?
            • Mar 2013
            • 20315

            #6
            Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

            Originally posted by Novacane View Post
            Tyrod just plain stinks.
            Yes, but besides that...

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            • jamze132
              Don’t hate…
              • Jun 2003
              • 29349

              #7
              Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

              I just think (hope) that they are keeping him in the pocket during preseason to help him go through his reads. They know he's a better QB outside the pocket when he's reacting.

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              • SpikedLemonade
                • Jun 2024

                #8
                Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                Originally posted by Night Train View Post
                You can work that with Peterman or your high pick next year.

                Yet Taylor is the 2017 QB...so..

                ROLL HIM OUT SO HE CAN SEE RECEIVERS OR TAKE OFF RUNNING !


                End of rant..
                Am I the only guy that wishes TT remain on the bench?

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                • Swiper
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 33105

                  #9
                  Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                  I agree with the original post. I saw a tweet that echoed Mace's suggestion that this is Dennison being vanilla. I don't think that's likely. He needs to get the o-line moving so Taylor can roll out.

                  If they're going to use him, they have to play to his strength - which is passing on the roll out. Problem with that, for Taylor - it takes half the field away from him. He doesn't really look back to the other side of the field.

                  It's a problem.

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                  • The Jokeman
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 9995

                    #10
                    Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                    Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                    I agree with the original post. I saw a tweet that echoed Mace's suggestion that this is Dennison being vanilla. I don't think that's likely. He needs to get the o-line moving so Taylor can roll out.

                    If they're going to use him, they have to play to his strength - which is passing on the roll out. Problem with that, for Taylor - it takes half the field away from him. He doesn't really look back to the other side of the field.

                    It's a problem.
                    It is since the WCO relies on a timing based passing approach. It's why McDermott is praising Peterman so much cuz the kid gets "it". Tyrod as much as he practices developing time with his receivers etc may never get it. As he's such a great athlete he hasn't had to develop an internal clock and instead can make plays with his legs. It may be exciting but it doesn't work long term in the NFL as either you ended up hurting yourself or D coordinators develop defenses that easily shut down your passing game leaving you to only running which as we seen last two seasons not enough.

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                    • MitchMurrayDowntown
                      Skoobasaurus-Rex
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 22284

                      #11
                      Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                      Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                      It is since the WCO relies on a timing based passing approach. It's why McDermott is praising Peterman so much cuz the kid gets "it". Tyrod as much as he practices developing time with his receivers etc may never get it. As he's such a great athlete he hasn't had to develop an internal clock and instead can make plays with his legs. It may be exciting but it doesn't work long term in the NFL as either you ended up hurting yourself or D coordinators develop defenses that easily shut down your passing game leaving you to only running which as we seen last two seasons not enough.
                      Nathan looks like the one with 7 years experience if you watch the games again.

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                      • justasportsfan
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 71583

                        #12
                        Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                        Bills are running vanilla schemes in preseasonpeople. But I agree with the OP. TT, is an average at best pocket passer if even.
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                        • Swiper
                          Legendary Zoner
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 33105

                          #13
                          Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                          Originally posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
                          Nathan looks like the one with 7 years experience if you watch the games again.
                          No. He looks like a 50% passer. Cut it out.

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                          • BillsImpossible
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16206

                            #14
                            Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                            Originally posted by Swiper View Post
                            No. He looks like a 50% passer. Cut it out.
                            That's with the 3rd and 2nd team. Nobody knows if Peterman made a bad pass or if the receiver ran the wrong route.

                            Coaches could have looked at the film and said, "he threw the ball where it was supposed to be..."

                            After 2 preseason games, Peterman's completion percentage is misleading for a rookie.

                            It's the kind of throws he has made that makes Bills fans do a double take.

                            The timing of his throws is key. Peterman diagnoses the defense and throws the ball quicker than Tyrod Taylor does.

                            Taylor is not a pocket QB, which is why he will never be a franchise QB in the NFL.

                            If Peterman continues to impress in the 3rd and 4th preseason games, why the hell not start him?

                            What do the Bills have to lose by starting Peterman over Taylor?

                            Nothing, the Bills have everything to gain by starting Peterman in so many ways.

                            If Peterman is horrible, the Bills have a great shot at landing a franchise QB in 2018.

                            If Peterman turns out to be the gem of the 2017 NFL Draft, just imagine the draft talk on this board!

                            Two first round picks, two second round picks, and maybe even three third round picks depending on who the Bills cut.

                            Taylor is not a pocket QB, Peterman is.

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                            • BillsImpossible
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2013
                              • 16206

                              #15
                              Re: Hey Dennison, Taylor Isn't A Pocket QB !

                              Originally posted by justasportsfan View Post
                              Bills are running vanilla schemes in preseasonpeople. But I agree with the OP. TT, is an average at best pocket passer if even.
                              In two preseason games full of easy vanilla play calling, Tyrod Taylor has been bad. Vanilla should be easy as pie, not difficult.

                              Not 1 TD for Tyrod, and the same old missing wide open receivers and holding on to the ball too long antics Bills fans are all too familiar with him.

                              Time to turn the page on Tyrod and see what the Bills have in Peterman.

                              He I am, on the road again....looking to find what the Bills have been looking for for so long.

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