The Carolina to Buffalo train just keeps rolling

[ckg927]

ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting that the Bills have picked up WR Kaelin Clay from the Panthers.

[GingerP]

For CB Kevon Seymour

[YardRat]

http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/showthread.php/238954-Bills-Trim-To-53

[sudzy]

He won't be the last former Panther to be on this team, week 1.

[justasportsfan]

Out with the Williams'. In with the Clays.

[justasportsfan]

Crossman got his new toy

[Mr. Pink]

Don't understand this move.

What's the point in keeping Brandon Tate then?

They now have 2 WRs who can't actually play WR.

[Buddo]

Don't like this move, at all. Just doesn't add up to me, value wise. Even assuming Seymour is only going to be a backup, he's not going to be a bad backup CB, whereas we are getting a WR of no note at all, and a 7th round pick in return. Seymour was actually a 6th round pick, and I still think he represents good value at that.

[OpIv37]

I mean, it worked so well when Rex brought all his Jets buddies with him.

[Mad Bomber]

Out with the Williams'. In with the Clays.
this guy is both:

https://youtu.be/c7SoiiZtRa0

[YardRat]

Can't see them keeping both he and Tate.

[YardRat]

I mean, it worked so well when Rex brought all his Jets buddies with him.

Clay has never played for the Panthers, actually.

[Mouldsie]

The Panthers are known for stellar WR play

[swiper]

Don't understand this move.

What's the point in keeping Brandon Tate then?

They now have 2 WRs who can't actually play WR.

Watch the video. Does it change your mind?


http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-kaelin-clay (http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-kaelin-clay)

[justasportsfan]

this guy is both:

https://youtu.be/c7SoiiZtRa0

Nice to see you post again. :up:

[kishoph]

Watch the video. Does it change your mind?


http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-kaelin-clay (http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-kaelin-clay)



https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=GdbtLEFbuew

[Mace]

I'm fine with it. Looks to me like they got rid of someone they didn't think was going to work out well for a "maybe" and more importantly, a draft pick if only a 7th.

Streater had a good camp with the Bills, he was released with injury settlement. Not uncommon for a team to do this to save an active roster spot without using IR for a guy who only has a few weeks worth of injury, then sign him again when healed. I think he'll be back to replace whoever isn't working out in the WR Group by the time he's healthy.

[YardRat]

Watch the video. Does it change your mind?


http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-kaelin-clay (http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-kaelin-clay)

Either Sal is wrong, or Clay's wiki page is.

[YardRat]

I'm fine with it. Looks to me like they got rid of someone they didn't think was going to work out well for a "maybe" and more importantly, a draft pick if only a 7th.

Streater had a good camp with the Bills, he was released with injury settlement. Not uncommon for a team to do this to save an active roster spot without using IR for a guy who only has a few weeks worth of injury, then sign him again when healed. I think he'll be back to replace whoever isn't working out in the WR Group by the time he's healthy.
If they want to re-sign Streater, they have to wait until three weeks after the agreed upon length of time to recuperate from the injury...other teams can approach him immediately after.

[BillsImpossible]

The Bills desperately needed a return man.

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[swiper]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=GdbtLEFbuew

Oh he's that guy. I think it's a safe bet he'll never do that again.

[Night Train]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdXlR5dT3oA

[Mace]

If they want to re-sign Streater, they have to wait until three weeks after the agreed upon length of time to recuperate from the injury...other teams can approach him immediately after.

Hm, actually I think it's 6 weeks : https://overthecap.com/what-exactly-are-injury-settlements/

Forgot about that. Bye bye Streater. Damn shame. Clay better be able to catch then.

[Night Train]

Hm, actually I think it's 6 weeks : https://overthecap.com/what-exactly-are-injury-settlements/

Forgot about that. Bye bye Streater. Damn shame. Clay better be able to catch then.

I envision Clay as a Goodwin type who will get a few chances to run deep and see if he can bring the ball in. 10.44 100 meters in HS. Blazing fast. Much faster than Tate, who may be cut.

[stuckincincy]

Tate is a gamer. He's not a big star but he's a decent player who is a good ST guy, a fair WR. Good clubhouse guy.

CIN saw value in him - jack of all trades, so to speak.

I guess BUF sees the same. So they kept him. He's a good football player, who adds to the team.

[swiper]

Mike Rodak
✔ @mikerodak

Panthers weren't the only team trying to acquire CB Kevon Seymour today. Several teams inquired with Bills late in the day.

[HHURRICANE]

I went to Panthers site and fans liked Clay but they are just really deep at WR so he wouldn't have seen the field much. They are thin in the secondary so this trade could work for both teams. Was Seymour's camp that great because it looked like he wasn't starting?!

FYI Panthers still frustrated that we have Beane and McDermott.

[Wally The Barber]

Anybody watch Brandon Tate as a KR thursday night...lol, awful.

The deal for Clay was for a KR not a WR


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdXlR5dT3oA

[SpikedLemonade]

Tate is a gamer. He's not a big star but he's a decent player who is a good ST guy, a fair WR. Good clubhouse guy.

CIN saw value in him - jack of all trades, so to speak.

I guess BUF sees the same. So they kept him. He's a good football player, who adds to the team.

Tate is a crap WR.

[YardRat]

I guess to put it in a different perspective I'd rather have two returners on the roster instead of two kickers.

[swiper]

I guess to put it in a different perspective I'd rather have two returners on the roster instead of two kickers.

#5 & #6 WR can always be your kick returners. That's part of the job description for #5 & #6 WR.

[ParanoidAndroid]

Is Tate a goner when Powell comes back?

[DraftBoy]

Don't understand this move.

What's the point in keeping Brandon Tate then?

They now have 2 WRs who can't actually play WR.

Tate will return kicks and Clay will return punts. That's the only sense I can make of it.

[Mr. Pink]

Either Sal is wrong, or Clay's wiki page is.

Sal is wrong, as per usual, Clay didn't see the field at all during the regular season last year.

His stats are from two years ago on Baltimore, all returning.

[Mr. Pink]

Tate will return kicks and Clay will return punts. That's the only sense I can make of it.

Still a baffling move for a team that could use an actual WR. Instead two of the WRs on this roster are now return specialists.

Unless Tate is moved, I still don't get the move.

[YardRat]

Would rather have Reilly in the mix instead of two returners.

[kishoph]

Tate will return kicks and Clay will return punts. That's the only sense I can make of it.

Looking at their stats, it would seem that Tate is the better punt returner, his avg. was 11.6 yds. with 8 returns going for 20 or more yards on 26 returns. Clay's last season (2015) his avg. was 10.6 yds. and he had 2 returns for 20 or more yds. on 23 returns. Tate also had 2 returns of 40 or more yds, while Clay had one. Of course those are just stats, I've never seen Clay return a punt, so don't know if he would be an upgrade. He did miss 2016 with a foot injury though and that could be a concern.

Either way I don't think that there'll be that much a difference between the two, that was worth getting rid of Seymour, who would of at least provided depth in a secondary that doesn't look very strong as it is.

[sudzy]

Either Sal is wrong, or Clay's wiki page is.



His only action in the league so far was with Carolina last year when he returned 23 punts for 244 yards and a touchdown. His 10.6 yards per-return average ranked fourth in the NFL.

http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-clay

Yeah, what the hell is Sal talking about? Went to the Panthers site and Ginn returned every punt for the Panthers last year. http://www.panthers.com/team/statistics.html
Sal, is MR. Rah-Rah Know it all. When half of what he says is complete crap.

[Skooby]

http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-clay

Yeah, what the hell is Sal talking about? Went to the Panthers site and Ginn returned every punt for the Panthers last year. http://www.panthers.com/team/statistics.html
Sal, is MR. Rah-Rah Know it all. When half of what he says is complete crap.
Coach nicknamed himself coach, he couldn't coach a coach purse.

[justasportsfan]

Coach nicknamed himself coach, he couldn't coach a coach purse.
You sound bitter because he has REAL sources.

[sudzy]

You sound bitter because he has REAL sources.

No, I think the have the same one.

[Mr. Pink]

You sound bitter because he has REAL sources.

nah, he was the same mr. knowitall really know nothing when he posted here too.

[swiper]

http://www.wgr550.com/articles/news/bills-trade-cb-seymour-panthers-wr-clay

Yeah, what the hell is Sal talking about? Went to the Panthers site and Ginn returned every punt for the Panthers last year. http://www.panthers.com/team/statistics.html
Sal, is MR. Rah-Rah Know it all. When half of what he says is complete crap.

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2516957/kaelin-clay

He was talking about Clay as a Raven in 2015 I believe. He said "with Carolina last year" however.

[Mr. Pink]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2516957/kaelin-clay

He was talking about Clay as a Raven in 2015 I believe. He said "with Carolina last year" however.

He probably was but....


His only action in the league so far was with Carolina last year when he returned 23 punts for 244 yards and a touchdown.

he didn't state it as such.

[swiper]

nah, he was the same mr. knowitall really know nothing when he posted here too.

You mean @ the Range, but you're certainly right about his narcissism. It approaches shiva in degrees of self-worth.

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He probably was but....



he didn't state it as such.

He made a mistake. You did too.

[Mr. Pink]

You mean @ the Range, but you're certainly right about his narcissism. It approaches shiva in degrees of self-worth.

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He made a mistake. You did too.

Makes sense he was over there too to pimp his basement podcast.

[sudzy]

http://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/2516957/kaelin-clay

He was talking about Clay as a Raven in 2015 I believe. He said "with Carolina last year" however.

Yes, you are right.

[justasportsfan]

nah, he was the same mr. knowitall really know nothing when he posted here too.
Maybe then but not now. I mean anyone posting here in with the bills more than Sal....aside from Skoobs?

[BertSquirtgum]

Brandon Beane is making Whaley look like a master at making trades in the NFL. Just awful and pathetic.

[sudzy]

Brandon Beane is making Whaley look like a master at making trades in the NFL. Just awful and pathetic.

Whoa! When did Beene trade two first and a forth for the only miss at WR to come out of the 2014 1st round? That goes down as one of the top 5 worst trades in Bills history. Beene trades have been bad, but, he has a ways to go before he reaches Doug Whaley status of incompetents.